Aren't Lynnde England, Jeremy, etc. just more victims of BushCo?

Seriously.

I looked at the pictures depicting abuse and was immediately disgusted, thinking to myself, "What trash!" Then I thought about it some more and, as someone who *almost* ended up in the military, am glad that I was not over there in Iraq--scared for my life, with no direction, with no true leadership. As trashy as Ms. England comes across, the point is she would not have been there in the first place were it not for Dubya's quest for oil. Not only that, but our country has a weird way of approaching sex and nudity--which might explain why our soldiers found it so amusing to strip the POWs butt naked. The ironic part of the situation, and just hear me out, is that if our (trigger happy) troops had killed the POWs beforehand, the issue would have never come about and things would be business as usual. Its weird how nobody (referring to the media and Congress) really sees anything wrong with the fact that over 10,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed throughout this "liberation." (Sarcasm begin) I guess its better to just shoot Iraqis dead on the scene than to bring them in for questioning and risk being caught on film being abusive (/Sarcasm)

Oh well...back to sleep I go...

But that doesn't make them any less responsible for their actions.

In many soldiers; however, I also would not be surprised if the experience the soldiers are going through now (seeing their peers killed everyday, etc.) has cause irreversible psychological damage. What if mental illness/ temporary psychosis is what lead to these events?

But the heartless politicans who start wars weigh the negitive things, with what do they themselves and their enablers have to gain in wars of conquest like Iraq, and the soldiers lose every time!

Which is why no war should be started frivolously. It's even worse because the acts being perpetrated now are institutionally sanctioned. I worry about the psychological condition of these people coming home as well. We could be breeding more McVeighs and bell tower snipers.

Of the GOP Disease! = Greed and Ignorance!

so are the commanders, NCO's, private contractors and intelligence officers who were in charge and telling them what to do and how to do it. This is always the way of the military. Hang it on the lower ranking personnel and let the officers get off. Do you suppose Ms England went out and bought the dog collar and leash herself? Does anyone think it was the grunts that decided how to treat the prisoners?

What that means is, that the Army will always uphold the Lifer Types(Higher Ups)and they always take care of the troopers who get with the program! The ones who don't, like the kid who slipped the photos to the investigators find themselves in a "World Of Shit"!

They are victims who have victimized others.

It's like child or spouse or elder abusers, or pedophiles -- they almost always have been victims themselves, but they took the initiative to continue the abuse cycle. That's the part that requires retribution (if proven true).

I find it impossible to blame the soldiers for anything other than the act of abuse itself -- enough of a crime! The motivation, the opportunity, the support and the countervalence (fear of military discipline for not obeying an order that contravenes the UCMJ) all come from Team Shrub.

However, that part of the problem will be made to go away ...

--bkl