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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:11 PM
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MSNBC Poll-Is Bush responsible for Iraq torture scandal
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4855930/ Do you think responsibility for the Iraqi prisoner abuse goes higher than Donald Rumsfeld? The only person higher than Rummy is either Cheney or Bush.

Currently 61% think that someone higher than Rummy is responsible.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:13 PM
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1. What an interesting phrasing.
Now why are they asking this one?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:19 PM
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2. To expalinn the CNN poll that Rummy shouldn't resign?
the only way I can explain that poll. Its not only Rummy's fault - its GWB's* fault.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:26 PM
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3. I don't want Rummy to resign
Edited on Mon May-10-04 05:27 PM by mzpip
Too easy and nothing would change. Paul Wolfowitz would be SOD and he's a Rummy clone.

Nope, Rummy should spend the next 6 months twisting in the wind as a constant reminder to all of us what a mess BushCo has made of everything.

MzPip
:dem:
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:34 PM
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4. I Agree
If Rumsfeld goes, it lets Shrub off the hook.

Hold the Commander-in-Chimp responsible!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:38 PM
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5. If this were merely politics, I'd agree
But people's lives are at stake, both occupiers and occupied. Since I'm not willing to gamble my life on removing these corrupt bastards from office, I'm not willing to gamble anyone else's, either.

I'll take Rummy's resignation today. I'll accept Cheney's tomorrow and Little George's the day after that.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:46 PM
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6. I am surprised by people in effect blaming Bush
Bush is ultimately responsible for what happen in Iraq to the detainees. Bush set the tone with the policy of denying POW status under the Geneva Convention to the Afghan detainees in Cuba. The torture in Iraq is just a continuation of this policy.

However, we have a major news organization in effect asking if Bush or Cheney are responsible for the scandal. That is very interesting.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 05:50 PM
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7. Down to 61%.
Bush and his "combattants"...designed to make it easy to torture them.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:08 PM
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8. That's a trick question!
Puppets can't be legally responsible for anything. Neither can chimps.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:17 PM
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9. Rummy Morphs Into MacNamera???
I just have this strange visual of these two war hawks...the ultimate scapegoat/victims of the wars they were eager to prosecute.

While I highly doubt Rummy would get the cold feet/guilt that MacNamera did in his last days as SOD, this man has definitely been on the front lines all throughout. Unlike Chenney, he never had gone into hiding, unlike Manchild, he can speak cohesively. He's an integral part of this cabal and is beyond reproach.

You can see how concerned the regime is with all the fax blasting and hate radio rah-rahing of Rummy...followed by today's idol worship by Bunnypants. Another irony: for a long time it was Rummy propping the boy up always refering to him as "Commander In Chief" and so on. How things surely have changed.

Why should public opinion matter to a regime that told the American people to take their popular vote and stuff it. Rummy's not going until we have to physically pry him, Chenney, Bunnypants and the rest (drapes & furniture attached) from our White House.
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