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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:36 AM
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"Would you like to see how feminists dream of treating men?"
As many have predicted, they'll try to blame Clinton for the whole thing. Whatever it takes to give Rumsfeld and the * malAdministration a pass. Whatever it takes.


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http://www.eagleforum.org/news-notes/index.shtml

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HOW THE FEMINISTS DREAM OF TREATING MEN? Click here.

<http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/Feminism/index.shtml>


The photo, of course, is Lyndie with the Iraqi prisoner on a leash.


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Everyone seems to be getting the same memo. See the CNS story below.


The "Military Expert", Elaine Donnelly (for the story below) has been a guest (gasp!) on Phyllis Schlafly's radio program talking about military moms. She is President of the right wing think tank, "Center for Military Readiness", whose board of advisors includes: LINDA CHAVEZ, DAVID HOROWITZ, BEVERLY LAHAYE, PHYLLIS SCHLAFLY, and WALTER E. WILLIAMS.

Her bio: http://cmrlink.org/elainebio.asp (Which Includes the following: "The popular website NewsMax.com named her one as one of “America’s Most Heroic for 2000.” )



Abu Ghraib Abuse is a Feminist’s Dream, Says Military Expert
By David Thibault
CNSNews.com Managing Editor
May 10, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The globally distributed photo of a U.S. servicewoman holding a naked Iraqi prisoner by a leash "is exactly what feminists have dreamed of for years," according to a military expert and frequent critic of attempts to integrate all aspects of the U.S. armed forces.


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"In this case, these women may not have been aware of it. But if they've been raised in a culture that you have a lack of respect between men and women, it becomes a little bit more understandable even though it's not excusable," Donnelly added.

Although certain feminists would not admit it publicly, "they're probably quite fond" of the photo showing the Iraqi prisoner being held on a leash, said Donnelly. That's "because it is demeaning to a man - any man."

The feminists to whom Donnelly refers are "the ones who like to buy man-hating greeting cards and have this kind of attitude that all men abused all women. It's a subculture of the feminist movement, but the driving force in it in many cases, certainly in academia," she said.





more.....

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200405\NAT20040510b.html






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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:42 AM
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1. What crap!
It'd be nice if Conservatives bothered to figure out what Feminism is all about. FOr example, they might learn that there are different movements under the feminism umbrella.

I guess it comes from the idiot conservatives (a subset) desire to posit every single damn issue as a war between them and us. In this case they suppose that because they would love to see feminists humiliated in this way, that Feminists would love to see all men humiliated like this.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:58 AM
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5. Hitler depended heavily on "us against them" propaganda
as part of his war on everything not German or their idea of the German way.
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:44 AM
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2. oh sure,
and Lynndie spent all of her time back home with feminists and academics...

What utter bullshit. Yet more evidence that these people are fascists pure and simple.
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prana Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:53 AM
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3. Once again...
Simplistic answers that are dogmatic in nature are used over the more complex and nuanced truth.

I wonder, sometimes, if neo-conservatives don't have a training course to be able to accept any, and everything, that is thrown at them without question, regardless of lies, contradictions and seeming incongruity. :(
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:59 AM
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6. Are you saying...
Are you saying the neocons believe the simplistic answers, or that they're trying to brainwash the multitude by feeding them simplistic answers?

And let me be the first to say, Welcome to DU!! :hi:
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prana Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:20 AM
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10. Both...
...are true. After all, convincing others of your dogma, reinforces your delusion that it's "right" and "incontrovertible."

Thank You for the welcome. ;)
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:27 AM
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12. Yes, that's Orwell's definition of doublethink
Being able to believe the lie as you are making it up and telling it.

It's a critical skill for Party officials.

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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:49 AM
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15. Welcome prana!
Can't remember somebody posting their first time to a thread of mine.

I'm honored. :hi:

The thing is, these folks aren't what passes for neo-cons.

I don't think that many conservatives have bothered to check out the PNAC/neo-con agenda. Seems to be a real disconnect there or many times,(as has been my experience) no awareness of its' existance.
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prana Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:21 AM
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16. Tis too late/early...
To actually check your facts, so for the moment I'll just agree.

But i'm honored to be a newbie replying to your thread. ;) Thanks loads, and I'm sure I'll be active, as politics is my life and work :p
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:31 AM
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18. Well.....
The opinion stated wasn't exactly based on mind-numbing scholarship of this particular group of RWers.

I generally "qualify" things with a "IMHO", and that goes for this one too. :-)

My main point is, that most Republicans I encounter are in this vein: "Project for the New American Century"? What's that?" or "Neo-cons?"(followed by a blank stare).
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:56 AM
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4. This women should go back to her worry about men and women
in the same bathrooms.
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Palacsinta Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:01 AM
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7. Just 'cause I don't want to be on a leash.............
doesn't mean I'd like to see a man on one. They're the ones that are making that leap, not me. Idiots.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:08 AM
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8. When you believe that you and only you . . .
. . are right, and of course God is on your side, then for everything that happens, there is a reason for it that justifies your position.

Even when your first reason doesn't add up, your followers won't care because they, like you, know in their hearts, that there's another reason that will hold up - and God just hasn't revealed it to you, yet.

Otherwise, they'd be wrong in God's eyes - and that's impossible.

The same is pretty much true for the whole right wing movement. That's why they don't care about the WMD's or the torure or the stolen election or any of it.

See my sig.
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:25 AM
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11. Are you implying this "feel good nonsense" isn't necessarily the exclusive
domain of the left and possibly projectionist on their part?

And here I thought the left ruled the "feel good" unreality mentality spectrum. Crap! There goes the neighborhood! :-)
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:31 AM
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13. If it feels good do it = if it makes money do it
The (alleged) moral code of the '60s became the moral code of the '80s.

Yes, indeed, projection is a conservative mantra.

Rush Limbaugh says 'beware of demogogues', even though that's what he is.

Psuedo Christians of the right worry about homosexuals recruiting thier children while spending thier time trying to recruit your children.

I could give more examples, but it's early.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:12 AM
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9. It would be funny if it wasn't tragic n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:37 AM
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14. Rubbish
Purely an appeal to prejudice by the intentionally hateful to the willfully ignorant...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:24 AM
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17. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG, spinning the unspinnable is becoming popcorn-worthy.
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