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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:24 AM
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CNN fails to inform you that kerry is up by 6pts among registered voters
Edited on Tue May-11-04 07:36 AM by demdem
I guess they don't think that is important. Oh and he's up 51-43 among adults. I guess CNN and Bill Scneider couldnt bring it to themselves to report this. In the poll the moe for the likely voters is higher than the moe for registered and adult. Figure that one out.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/polls/usatodaypolls.htm
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:34 AM
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1. my observation from the survey...
people think * is doing a terrible job in Iraq,
BUT
they think * can do a better job than Kerry in Iraq

WTF???
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:01 AM
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6. Yes, but marginally so.
Bush is only a couple of points ahead on Iraq. This reflects two things; one of them is that Bush is making a pig's ear of the whole thing, after lying to us to get the war started in the first place.

The other is that Kerry's "plan" to save our face in Iraq is fuzzy at best, or at least that's the impression I get. We're being asked to accept that Kerry is better than Bush because he's smarter and he gives a shit, but that's just not good enough to swing people over to his side on that particular issue. If he had a reasonable and well-articulated plan, even if it were 50-50 workable, it would be better than nothing, and it would get him 10 points ahead easily.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:07 AM
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8. Exactly!
Edited on Tue May-11-04 08:07 AM by HFishbine
Spot on. Hopefully Kerry has Clark's latest on his reading list:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0405.clark.html
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:17 AM
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10. Keep the faith! As I pointed out below, there's been a 12pt swing on Iraq.
Edited on Tue May-11-04 08:27 AM by Brotherjohn
Kerry gained 6, Bush lost 6. And that's just since the last poll, less than a week before. Obviously, this was affected by the prison fiasco. But isn't that what should be happening: bonehead Bush administration moves pulling his numbers down.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:26 AM
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11. TEST
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:41 AM
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2. That's because in a Presidential Election, the registered polls
are closer to the reall election than the Likelys and CNN doesn't want you to know that Kerry is beating Bush badly for a challenger in May.

At first they reported the Registereds when Bush was way ahead. But ever since Jan. it's just the likelys.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:41 AM
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3. "Lag Time"...
We didn't see Kerry surge in these CNN polls in the primaries until the last days...and nowhere were their projections near what the actual results in either Iowa or New Hampshire. So why do these distorted polls iritate now?

The full impact of this latest scandal hasn't really taken hold. Most of these polls were done over last weekend when the question was still being bantered of if this abuse was really happening or not. Now it's known and this week it's being shown who did it. Bunnypants remains detached from all of this right now, but that's not going to last long. People are starting not only to get sick of this sorrid story, they're getting sick of this invasion and all the fighting among Americans this regime has brought about.

Listen to Zogby! We haven't even come close to hitting bottom on the slime and scandals of this regime. Look at all the open questions and investigations...any that could lead to criminal charges against the regime and further erode this regime's falling credibility. That's what I'd love to see a poll on right now. Wanna bet that's at an all-time low.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:42 AM
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CNN is the WHite HOuse hot line
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:42 AM
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4. Yesterday they said Bush was leading 47-45.
No joke. Is that not true? They sited the CNN/Gallop/USA Today poll
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:49 AM
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5. I saw this on a crawl last night. But the headline was "Bush leads Kerry"
Interesting Bush is several points ahead of Kerry among "Americans" but Kerry is several points up over Bush among "registered voters". Makes me happy those idiots who think he is Jesus reincarnate don't make the effort to vote.

This should be very good news for us. If Kerry is ahead now, before his campaign has even begun, I think he will be much further ahead after the attacks on Bush begin. Bush's record presents a target as large as the Grand Canyon.

I personally can not wait until Kerry announces Clark as VP nominee. Because at that point, Clark's extraordinary attack skills will be set loose and the press will follow his daily, ingenious, biting assaults on this worst pResident in history and his cabal of morons.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:03 AM
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7. If they really looked at "Americans", Kerry's 8 POINTS up on Bush...
Edited on Tue May-11-04 08:05 AM by Brotherjohn
... that's what the poll says when asking "National Adults" ("registered" or not, "likely voters" or not... just "Americans").

Spin it all they want, this poll is VERY bad for Bush. Yes, people still think Bush can handle the issues of terrorism and Iraq better, but he's there's been a 12 point swing in the former, and a 10 point swing in the latter (in Kerry's favor, to the point of where they're statistically tied on the Iraq issue).

Only three issues were asked about here. In other polls where people have been asked which candidate can handle certain issues better, (including more issues), Kerry usually leads in most of them, with the exceptions of Iraq and terror. These are Bush's only remaining "strengths" (such as they are). Pretty soon, polls will show that people think Kerry is better able to handle even these issues, and Bush will be toast.

EDIT:
Oh, and regarding your sig line, someone here used to post "86-43!" As in "Eighty-six the forty-third president* of the United States".
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:11 AM
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9. They won't tell you that, but they will tell you this....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1575021

Gotta give 'em credit... they try REALLY hard to smash Kerry and prop up the Smirk. It's just jaw-dropping. :grr:
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:46 AM
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12. They Pulled an O'Reilly !

They cherry picked the results from the one category that had Bush leading 48 to 47 percent.

The most important category is registered voters, in that category Kerry is leading 50 to 44
percent. This is exactly what guys like O'Reilly, Novak, and Hannity do with poll results. They
cherry pick selected results that show what they want it to show. It's unethical and dishonest,
and it is misleading the public.

On top of that, all the pundits on TV have been saying Kerry is not gaining any ground on Bush,
that's a lie. They ran the same poll on 5-4-04 showing Kerry and Bush tied 47 to 47 percent. Then
just 3 days later on 5-7-04 the very same poll has Kerry at 50 and Bush at 44 percent, that means
Kerry went up 3 points and Bush dropped 3 points. Yet the pundits keep saying Kerry is not gaining
when he should be because of the Iraq prison scandal.

They lied and misrepresented the results of this poll and other polls.

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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:51 AM
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13. This is exactly how I predicted they would spin it seconds after ...
Edited on Tue May-11-04 08:53 AM by Brotherjohn
... the poll was released.

To quote that thread, my prediction was:
"Yeah, Bush is at a low point, but he's picked UP points on Kerry! Kerry is really in trouble! If even the prisoner abuse scandal doesn't help him, nothing will!"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1571345&mesg_id=1571345
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