Sen James Inhofe = NAZI

he is more outraged by the outrage (Abu Graib)

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Or have the thread locked for profanity.

I'm sure there is a special place in hell for Inhofe. It better be a big place, because he will have plenty of company, just from this administration.

This guy is offensive to all humanity.

What a scumbag! Poor Okies!

and I blame Democrats for it in a vague way. He is not even that popular here. The Tulsa World hates his guts. Yet we ran a failed and damaged ex-governor against him in 2000.

He is a creep and a fool.

This is sickening. I'm outraged at him - I almost can't believe this guy - my God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My COngressman is a guy named James Moran. He's a Democrat, and, while he has gotten himself into a couple of scraps recently, he's a pretty decent Democratic repesentative in the US House of Representatives.

Why would you want to call Inhofe a moran?

I don't speak "freeper".

what was with that letter he wanted on the record, did Warner object?

woo hoo.

...is a dead Native American.

Would somebody please put a sock in this guy's gob?

He probably thinks the only good Native American....
...is a dead Native American.

Ever read about the Osage Indian Murders?

There's info here: http://foia.fbi.gov/osageind.htm

But read Bloodland: A Family Story of Oil, Greed and Murder on the Osage Reservation by Dennis McAuliffe or Linda Hogan's fictionalized version of the story, Mean Spirit. Linda Hogan's work is poetically beautiful in the way she depicts the Osage People. McAuliffe's version of the story is more journalistic, but at the same time more personal. He is convinced that some of the people responsible for the murders are still around, reaping the benefits of their crimes.

It's a fascinating story... sad, troubling, and unfortunately true.

Why the need to label someone -- ANYone -- with the label "Nazi"

Is Inhofe stupid? Sure

Is Inhofe insensitive? No question

Is Inhofe morally bereft? I think so.

But a Nazi?

To my way of thinking, labeling just about anyone a Nazi diminishes what the Nazis actually did.

just like the real Nazi bureaucrats who did not actually pull any triggers.

it does not happen all at once

To my way of thinking, labeling just about anyone a Nazi diminishes what the Nazis actually did.

Is there any other word that says it as well? Is there any doubt in your mind that given the power he would not actually advocate genocide? As long as "we" only killed 5,999,999 people, "we" would be "better" than the Nazis, I suppose.

I might call someone like Sen. Inhofe any or all of the following;

stupid.

morally blind.

morally obtuse.

morally insensitive.

xenophobic.

hypocrite.

jerk.

an apologist for evil actions.

I can think of lots and lots of things to call him that are much more accurate than "Nazi".

And regarding this comment of yours, "Is there any doubt in your mind that given the power he would not actually advocate genocide?", I would say that I have no doubts that given the power, he would advocate geoncide.

But I think I would say the same thing about just about anyone, "given the power".

But I think I would say the same thing about just about anyone, "given the power".

That is an outrageous statement in itself, and explains your total lack of the validity of the label as applied to inhoff.

ONLY criminals that act and think like inhoffe would evolve like that - I and I would guarantee almost all others on this board or who are Democrats, nor my friends or family certainly wouldn't!

What utter bullshit.

Take a look at what some of our countrypeople did when they were put into positions of power in prisons in Iraq.

Outrageous to suggest that anyone, given the power, would engage in monstrous barbarity?

I think not.

I am sorry, though, that you were offended by my comments.

We should all take a break.

Thank you for your concern.

I am sorry, too.

I agree to a lesser extent, the Nazis were a specific political party of a group called the Fascists.

Fascist is much more appropriate for this repugnant example of inhumane beliefs. This man stands as though we were on a better moral high ground because 'we're not doing as badly as Saddam did'. This is a fairly simple statement, it's as though comparing Mussolini's Party in Italy during WWII to the Nazi Germany and saying, "See, they weren't so bad!"

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2002/11/22725.php

basic stats for US imperialism
by cecil Sunday November 24, 2002 08:18 AM
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6. Chronological list of US murder toll:

The murder toll has been achieved by either direct violence (e.g. the firebombing and nuking of Japan or the firebombing of Dresden) or indirect/proxy “low intensity conflict” (e.g. Rwanda in the 90s or Nicaragua in the 80s). (I have not here accounted for the deaths attributable to SAP.) Some extremely conservative estimates—

Native Americans (1776-2002): 4M
West Africans (1776-1865): 4M
Philippines (1898-1904): 600K
Germany (1945): 200K
Japan (1945): 900K
China (1945-60): 200K
Greece (1947-49): 100K
Korea (1951-53): 2M
Guatemala (1954-2002): 300K
Vietnam (1960-75): 2M
Laos (1965-73): 500K
Cambodia (1969-75): 1M
Indonesia (1965): 500K
Colombia (1966-2002): 500K
Oman (1970): 10K
Bangladesh (1971): 2M
Uganda (1971-1979): 200K
Chile (1973-1990): 20K
East Timor (1975): 200K
Angola (1975-2002): 1.5M
Argentina (1976-1979): 30K
Afghanistan (1978-2002): 1M
El Salvador (1980-95): 100K
Nicaragua (1980-90): 100K
Mozambique (1981-1988): 1M
Turkey (1984-2002): 50K
Rwanda (1990-1996): 1M
Iraq (1991-2002): 1M
Somalia (1991-1994): 300K
Yugoslavia (1991-2002): 300K
Liberia (1992-2002): 150K
Burundi (1993-1999): 200K
Sudan (1998): 100K
Congo (1998-2002): 3M

We should also take note that the United States bears more than superficial responsibility for the Nazi Holocaust: e.g., the turning away of Jewish, Romani, and other refugees; funding the concentration camp system; underwriting the Third Reich’s military; delay in opening a western front; policies of appeasement before the war; siding with the fascists during the Spanish Civil War; turning down Stalin’s offer to attack Germany jointly in 1938; providing theoretical inspiration for lebensraum, final solutions, anti-communism, anti-Semitism, etc; rebuilding Germany after the war with the fascist infrastructure still intact; saving war criminals; general ideological support; and so forth.
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It's time for another Bush/Nazis thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853

Really.

Your anti-Americanism is showing.

If you want to lay blame for the Nazi holocuast, might I suggest you lay it at the feet of the following countries:

1. France. France insisted on a provision in the Treaty of Versailles for reparations from Germany. The German people faced mass poverty, but France insisted on reparations. The effect? Sky-high inflation within Germany. A search, within Germany, for someone to blame. Nationalism and a search for a scapegoat that sprang from France's insistance on reparations.

2. France (part 2). Specifically, Vichy. Collaborationists within France.

3. The USSR. They actually entered into a treaty of non-agression with the Nazis. They bear much more blame for enabling HItler's ruthless rape of Western Europe than the USA does.

4. Italy. THere was a Fascistic government in place there. It was part of the Axis, I think.

5. Germany itself. It elected Hitler.

It is true that the USA denied ships port here. But why did those ships have to leave Europe in the first place? What countries within Europe offered save haven to Jews?

I have to go to work right now, but if you would do some reading just through some of that thread you could start to understand who, how and why our government was stolen from us. Got to go but I will check out your points later, thanks for the reply

Btw blaming one group for a society's problems will solve nothing

But it is kind of a compliment now that I think about it (in that you state My anti-Americanism is showing). As long as you thinking anti-imperialistic Americanism.

I get more pieces of the puzzle every day. Hitler also siezed power in a couple under handed ways just like *.

But I never ment to state or even believe ever did state the U.S. was responsible for the Nazi holocuast. You might have gleaned that from that Indy link. I only posted because someone was making light of the Nazi holocuast with the number below 6 million

Hey, I guess you can say a lot on that line.:D

He's a NEO-nazi.

I really am shocked at my ability to still be shocked, but that little rant of his left me with my jaw dropped, literally.

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The term "Nazi" is thrown around here far too casually. Yes, Republicans might be vile, racist, fascist; but nothing they have done has come close to what the Nazis have done, thankfully. Also, Israeli policies frequently get the "Nazi" label here at DU. What does that accomplish? How does it add to a discussion?

Personally, it has disappointed me immensely, since discovering this board last fall. I lost over 20 family members to the Nazis. They were responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people. It's gotten to the point where I question whether it's worth my time reading and posting here. Yes, there are so many terrific writers and information-providers here, but the bad apples are spoiling it.

Go ahead, bring on the :nopity: 's and :cry: 's ...

is on a trip! Trip! Trip!

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i had to mute that motherfuckers

What a waste of oxygen.

had one contemptious rhetorical question for Taguba, but was really only interested in screaching is outrageous monologue. Crap, this guy needs to be put in Gitmo for about six months.

really really sick

what is the matter with him--

he is sick--Jesus

"get the whole picture" by talking about the terrible things Saddam is alleged to have done, so it's ok what we are doing?

Sick man--a pox on his head.

what Saddam did or didn't do with his prisoners.

The fact of the matter is Bush took the moral high road and drove this country to war to save the Iraqi people from Saddam. Now his troops have been caught their captives' pants down and every one is lining up to be outraged by the outrage or saying at least it's not as bad as what Hussein did.

This country looks bad as a result of these acts - whether you call them abuse, torture, or "softening". You can't say you're morally superior to another country and do shit like this.

You certainly can't let it happen for 6-9 months and not take action.

It's like he's got *'s hand up his ass making his mouth move...

is trying to say that because, Saddam did worse than we ,that it was ok for us to do what we did!...My momma always taught me that TWO WRONGS never make it RIGHT

The people they rounded up in those prisons, I'm sure, had nothing to do with Saddam's atrocities.

Thanks, Mr. Inhofe, but I'd like to believe that most of humanity is better than Saddam. Being better than Saddam is not a real high hurdle to jump . . . except maybe for you. In that case, I guess congratulations are in order.

By the way, some of us have been against Saddam and his regime in Iraq since Mr. Cheney was doing $23 million worth of business with him in 1998. Or when Mr. Rumsfeld was shaking Saddam's hand and giving him all sorts of weapons back in 1983.

Now if you and your Republican friends have finally tired of Saddam and his blight on humanity, then I suppose you should be encouraged. But it sure took you long enough.

Alright, Senator Byrd's up now. No doubt he understands why this is a problem.

come out with a report that 90% of the prisoners were mistakenly arrested?

After listening to his long and obnoxious rant of barely contained misinformation when he didn't really ask questions or such until the end of his speech. He seemed more to care about the fact that it was caught than it happening, as has been said here.

When listening to this guy he made comments about tortures that do indeed sound worse than what happened in the Iraq prisons but very badly missed the point, he didn't seem to understand that just because someone else did something that was worse doesn't mean what we did was OK.

Inhofe is implying that, since we aren't torturing as horrifically as was done under Saddam Hussein, then everything is ok.

So, since Saddam had peoples lower bodies dipped in acid, it would be ok for us to only dip their feet in?

Since Saddam executed and buried people in mass graves, it'd be ok for us to execute and bury them in individual graves?

Since we hold Saddam responsible for torture performed under his leadership, we should only prosecute the torturers under the Bush administrations watch?

Total hypocrite.

another decade . . . he is a threat to our national security . . an embarrassment to our country . . . a sordid human being . . .


As President Bush put it, they are an exceptional "few bad apples"
whose actions "do not reflect the nature of our country."

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with a broomstick on an Iraqi to get him to talk.

so profoundly. When we have voices like this being heard around the world as representative of the American people, how much longer will we survive as a democratic republic? James Inhofe - you are a waste of space.

Everyone in this thread write to the Tulsa World. I don't know if writing to the Oklahoma City paper would do much good.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cu/cu.php?az=detail&state=OK&id=1246

Or go to Campaign Underground for media information and write or call with all your stinging comments.

Pretty please. It would mean so much for out of state people to say how embarrassing Inhofe was.

With all due respect, I would be a bit careful if you choose to write to the Tulsa World about sending them "stinging" comments.

My experience is that folks from that area of the country wuil listen to good, solid comments laced with common sense, decency, and fairness.

What they really, really resent, though, is people from "outside" implying that the folks of Oklahoma are "hicks" who need outsiders to tell them what they should or should not be embarrased about. They really, really resent being talked-down-to be people fromo outside Oklahoma.

Comments like, "I can't believe that folks of Oklahome would elect a Nazi like Inhofe" would most likely not be well-received by the folks of Oklahoma. A comment like, "As an American who shares many of the same values of the fine people opf Oklahoma, I am writing to express my shock at what I heard Sen. Inhofe say today" would be more likely to attract the attention of many Oklahomans, especialy if those comments were followed by specific citations of what Inhofe said and why the depart from the basic values of Oklahomans.

and as an Oklahoman for 55 years, and a Tulsan for 25 years, I am fully aware of what Oklahomans think. The Tulsa World wouldn't print a "Nazi" comment anyway. They will print anti-Inhofe letters - I know that for a FACT.....lol.

that sick bastard Inhofe's. (And I have been an Okie since 1949.)

I know way more than a few "born again" types who get drunk & screw somebody new every Saturday night then show up at church a few hours later to hear some fascist preacher rail against sinners.

Then they join up to oppose a state lottery and drive to Kansas to buy Powerball tickets (or drive down to Tunica to play in the casinos)

:eyes:

tulsaworld@tulsaworld.com

Should just email a link to this thread. :)

:kick:

The word "NAZI" is much too mild. I'm sure there are many National Socialists who would have been shocked by his approval of torture.

IMHOFF OF OKLAHOMA IS UP NEXT!
THANK GOD! HE SAYS HE IS MORE OUTRAGED BY THE OUTRAGE!!IMHOFF HITS A GRAND SLAM AND SAYS MORE IN 30 SECONDS THAN THE SWIMMER HAS SAID IN 3 DAYS!!

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all of this is smoke and mirrors.

The ONLY thing that will happen for sure is there will be no more cameras allowed in Iraq.

These hearings are bulshit!

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/special_packages/iraq/8639271.htm
Posted on Tue, May. 11, 2004

No TV cameras in the courtroom for Abu Ghraib court-martial, general indicates

JIM KRANE

Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq - No TV cameras or tape recorders will be allowed in the courtroom at next week's court-martial of a U.S. soldier charged in the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal, a senior U.S. officer said Monday.

Spc. Jeremy C. Sivits of Hyndman, Pa., a member of the Army's 372nd Military Police Company, will face a military court in Baghdad on May 19 - less than a month after photos of prisoners being abused and humiliated were first broadcast April 28.

The streamlined trial is expected to last just one or two days - including the sentencing phase, if Sivits is found guilty, said a U.S. military legal adviser who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity.

The U.S. military normally allows family members, observers and print reporters to attend trials, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said at a briefing.

"It has not been our practice in the past to have cameras inside," Kimmitt said.

Kimmitt said Sunday the court-martial will be held in Baghdad and will be open to media coverage.
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Less is better according to Inhofe. Saddam's interrogation methods were worse according to Inhofe, so that makes the 'abuses'by US personel OK by mr.Inhofe's standards. He is outraged because decent human beings are outraged by the events revealed at Abu Graib. Inhofe is unAmerican as unAmerican can be.
Also mr.Steven Cambone is hand-in-glove with the Bushco cabal. He is the one who pushed the mobile bio-lab lie talking point inhaled and spieled by Bush and Powell. Cambone is the fast-talking slick that Rumsfeld depends on to spin, spin spin in dizzying circles.

what no cut off ears? no crushed digits? How dare our critics call the firm-but-gentle things we do to those terrible vicious criminals torture?

He (THEY) are insane!

Occasionally I have contacted other Senators about Inhofe always referring to him the same way.

i particularly want to have inhofe's testimony egraved on granite and place in the entrance to the supreme court. HE and those whose reptile brains utter such filth should be 'softened up'

Just unbelievable.

"They weren't there for traffic violations." Some weren't there even for that much, from what's been reported!!

Unbelievable.

"I have heard your comments today about the excessive outrage over the abuse outrage.

Mr. Inhofe, either you are a pervert or an idiot. You should resign after apologizing for the stupidity of your comments.

You are the OUTRAGE. Disgusting and your comments at the hearing were the height of stupidity.

I AM OUTRAGED BY YOU!!!"
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google Senator Inhofe and you can e mail what you think of him

I do not know if you count yourself a Christian. Certainly no Christian whether Republican or Democrat would ever say the foul things you said. Whether or not you had the correct facts about the people in custody, no one deserved to be treated in the way that these Iraqis were. As a matter of fact, as you don't seem to care about the truth, let me inform you that many of those prisoners were simply gathered up in sweeps, or were there for petty theft, not for murder or insurgency. Even if thy were, they were fighting an illegally occupying, uninvited force, and so had a right to their rebellion. Our POWs from the start, including the women were treated with respect. No woman was raped, no one's clothes were stripped from them and no one was humiliated. I am sure that you, however, were one of the people screeching loudest about the "abuse" of displaying them on camera (fully clothed)I am ashamed that the Iraqis, who you and yours have constantly belittle and tried to demonize, ended up treating their prisoners better than we did ours. I am ashamed that people with no soul, like you, have made all Americans with a soul and a conscience ashamed to be associated with America. When did America become the bully? Again, you should be ashamed and immediately tender your resignation as a representative of the people. Thank God for Republicans like John McCain and Mr. Lindsey who can still distinguish wrong from right. I noticed that they were as sickened by you and your disgusting comments as many others were.

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of funds he was overseeing.

I unfortunately live in OK with this guy and Nickles as senators and Sullivan as representative.

Oklhoma DUers may have info about his past.

During Inhofe's campaign for senator, his past was documented by Frosty Troy in the Okla Observer; Troy said no regular newspaper would run a story on Inhofe's past or publish a LTTE about it. I assumed that as a long-time newsman he wrote this because he had tried to get an article and/or LTTE published.

These assholes will destroy us all. Jesus Christ.

yep, Inhofe has just reinforced the image and the belief that the US glories in the torture of others. I can't wait to see who, repug-wise, defends him and who disowns him.

Those Iraqi's were on OUR land (well, I'm Canadian, but I'll speak for you anyway). Those Iraqi's were impeding our progress.

Remember how we treated the Native Americans who got in the way of our progress? The Iraqi's at Abu Ghraib were treated to a VACATION compared to what happened to their equals centuries before.

Thank God we have people like Donald Rumsfeld, who approved of this torture, and people like Inhofe that are willing to speak out against those who speak out against it!

Torture = freedom!
Inhofe = not a Nazi!