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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:17 PM
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Now Watch. Watch As The Death of One White Man, Stirs Up The Ugly
Truth about America. This will no doubt become the most heinous, the most gruesome, the most hideous, the most ... despicable crime ever committed bar none. Idon't think I need to say anything more. I'll just listen if you want to correct me.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:20 PM
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1. You know it. This death will become the rallying cry for "See!?!"
"You people cry of a little "frat" house antics" and "look what they did to us!"

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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:33 PM
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13. We should cry 'see!'
See what happens when a country is occupied and its citizens tortured.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:20 PM
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2. Absolutley
It won't be long before the Rushbots are using this as "confirmation" of why those people in Abu Ghraib got what they deserved.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:23 PM
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4. The things I've been reading (threads here)
says this man had on a orange prison jumpsuit. I thought prisons were controlled by the Americans. If this man was released from prison be the Americans, wouldn't he have been given his cloths back? I have not read any stories about Iraqi insurgenst breaking anyone out of prisons in Iraq. as stated on another thread here... something is not right with this!
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:31 PM
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48. He was released from prison on 6 April
He was last heard from on 9 April. that's three days, during which he contacted his parents.

EVEN IF he had been given orange jumpsuit in prison, he probably wouldn't have left with it and anyway he had time to change out of it in three days.

Or do you think he was forced back into it. . . . .?


sheesh.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:22 PM
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3. I'm having a tinfoil moment here.

Masked men... could be anybody. American volunteer worker, held by the Iraqi authorities (isn't that us, or at least someone in the "coalition"?), until his family is interviewed as to his purposes there in Iraq by the FBI, then killed a day after he's been released? Guess this will get everyone fired up again (three minute hate scheduled for 6:31 as this story will lead the evening news) and get those pesky "abuse" stories of the news. Sorry if anyone reads this as coming across too callously, as I sympathize with the young man. No one, I mean no one, should have that fate.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:26 PM
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32. You aren't the only one.
eom
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:23 PM
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5. Newz is scripted to ensure support for the continuation of the status quo.
*yawn*

Nothing new here. Nope. Nothing at all.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:23 PM
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6. Chrsitian Ethics - Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right - Back In Your Face Bubba
eom
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:27 PM
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8. Yeah but, three rights make a left!
-George Carlin-
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:35 PM
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15. Christian ethics, Dubya-style:
it takes at least three or four wrongs to make a right.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:23 PM
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7. ...and you BETTER be dammed OUTRAGED....
else the RW's will say you care more about them 'Raqis than us 'Murkins.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:27 PM
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9. Here they be:
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sus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:33 PM
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14. they are so psycho
"I am holding 60 Minutes and the Democrats responsible for this."

wtf???
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:35 PM
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16. Some choice freeperisms
One MOAB per dead American

I wonder how heroic our whistle blower feels now


I am holding 60 Minutes and the Democrats responsible for this.


It's time to assasinate 100 Iraqi prisoners (we have plenty of murderers in custody to serve this purpose) for every American hostage killed.

Headline should read: Democrats cause young man's beheading.

If there is an arabic word for diginity it's a waste of letters. There is no need for the word.

You are right. The DEMONcrats hate President Bush. They will do anything to make this war a failure.

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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:41 PM
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19. The disconnect is so frightening
stop drinking the flurodated water.....

This death is the Democrats and 60 Minutes Fault.... and then this gem:

To: cjohnson7771
I'm hoping the families of the victims will start demanding that this be shown on American television.

21 posted on 05/11/2004 11:04:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John Kerry, the Eddie Haskell candidate.)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >


Yea, I'm really sure the family of this man would want it run day in and day out..... yea, sure they would.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:44 PM
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20. Freakrepublic.com?
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:28 PM
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10. But I don't think it will be 'one white man.'
I fear there will be many, many more.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:32 PM
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11. They are doing it right now on CNN...
Kyra Phillips (?) is interviewing Gen. Don Shepperd and she says, "That's why they are the terrorists and we are not." Sheppard responds with something like, "Oh yes, that's just the way they are, and we are not like that."

Yep, they are making hay while the sun shines, you bet!
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:41 PM
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18. RW vacation destination, lets pool our money and buy them tickets
freeperville would love the huge HUGE beach
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:32 PM
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12. Yep
This is like red meat to the freeper types, I can see it now -

"This shows what was done in that prison to those savages was not only right, it was too easy!"

"Nuke them"

"This proves that all muslims are animals"

etc, etc
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:40 PM
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17. We're officially now at the chicken or egg debate.
It's an unwinnable argument. At this point, maybe the French will repeat history and be the ones to save the Iraqis and help promote democracy. (Irony)
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:45 PM
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21. So staged....
bush and criminals are on the line, they'll do anything to turn things around. If that was a real person killed, may God have mercy on his soul. If it's a republican trick, may God eat bush's soul.
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SanFranciscoDemocrat Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:45 PM
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22. Deplorable
I condemn the murder of the American as strongly as I condemn the murders perpetrated in the name of American empire-building. On the scale of evil, I think Al Quaeda and the Bush administration are pretty much side-by-side. In this particular subplot in the war story, there are no good guys. Please let's not become bizarroworld Freepers in rationalizing or minimizing this.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:45 PM
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23. Im a student of the race problem in america. I studied what took place
during lynchings. It's a subject people only hear about, because it's too fucked up to read about it. I looked at it though. One book in particular affected me deeply. It was a book that did nothing but contain newspaper reports of lynchings in america.

You wouldn't believe the stories reported in the papers when they happened. The frenzy that would be stirred up, whole counties were notified that a lynching was gonna take place and people showed up in a carnival atmosphere. Sold hot dogs and all. It was incredible to read of the stories in which the white victim of a crime, either doubted or flat out, exonerated the caught "perpetrator, still didn't stop the lynching. When doubt would be aired, someone would always without fail shout out "remember the crime". Start talking about the wrong that was done. The crowd having been worked to a fever pitch, and having traveled for miles for the show, lynched the guy anyway.
In some cases, when they couldn't find the guy, they lynched who they found in his house.

Evidence never means a damn thing in these cases. "Remember the crime!" always carries the day. When we started blaming afghans after 9-11, I knew then I was watching that peculiar american aspect of "character", which would focus on the crime, as an excuse to murder thousands of arabs. I was not surprised when we used it against the Iraqis, who had nothing to do with 9-11. Evidence doesn't have a damned thing to do with it. You got drowned out by "have you forgotten what happened on 9-11?" Just another version of "remember the crime." We can use 9-11 to attack any arab country we want to.

We were all wondering what concoction Bush was gonna pull before election. Now he's got just what he needed. (Again. What a coincidence). Carte Blanch from here on out folks.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:00 PM
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36. yes, i've seen the pictures on another site
and they are sickening. the u.s. is THE most racist country in the world.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:59 PM
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43. Thank you for this, Solomon. You're right.
Mob hysteria is not unique to America. It's a human failing. What is new with the Bush* administration is their dedicated use of the media to spread propaganda and stir up this mob hysteria.

Their manipulation of public opinion is a many-pronged approach that appears to include manipulating polls, intimidating journalists, bribing industry, etc.

Today there have been numerous brand-new posters here on DU, all of them spinning the freeper lines like mad. I imagine they have summer jobs working for the government to spread "information" on websites like ours.

Bush* doesn't even have to use the money he's raised through fundraisers. He's got people on the federal payroll who do this kind of work.

I hope that Americans can wake up from the kool-aid dream and kick these guys out of the White House.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:46 PM
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24. Why do "Al Queda" videos appear when bush's ass is in a sling?
Now think about this...let's say I am Al Queda, why on earth would I want to do something to make bush's soldier's actions look justifiable in the midst of a big brew haus against dumsfeld and company?

Why would AQ want to tilt American opinion towards bush and his so called style of leadership at this particular time with this particular killing on film?

Why is it these Al Queda videos and announcements by bin laden always seem to come at the most beneficial times for herr bush?

I have a really hard time believing bin forgotten and AQ are that dumb unless their goal is to keep the US in Iraq and bush in office I cannot see the logic in the timing with AQ.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:48 PM
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25. Now he know why Rumsfeld said that the worst was yet to come
He knew all along that he had one dead white man in his pocket who was going to save his job!

:headbang:
rocknation
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:51 PM
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26. This needs to go to the Secret Service
Can't do it from work, but this is a direct threat from a FR post to a SS covered individual or individuals. Please someone report this.

"Whipped?!! WHIPPED?!!!! I want to see them cut in half with a shotgun in front of their families.

I hereby issue a Fatwah calling for whatever good American has a chance to take their protest of the CBS collaborateurs to "the next level." Also to take the protest of Kerry and the traitors in the Senate to "the next level". If you don't know what I mean by "the next level", just think about it."
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:16 PM
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27. Listen at Hannity go. Never listen or look at the ass but when
something like this comes up, I take a temperature reading.

(I'm not making light of the Berg's death. He clearly didn't deserve it. But who did it? We don't know yet. But that's not gonna stop the rage released against Iraqis.)
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:19 PM
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28. "As The Death of One White Man, "
This hardly seems like the occasion for racism. Posts like this should be deleted.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:24 PM
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30. The post is about racism my friend. But not mine.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:25 PM
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31. What the hell does that mean?
n/t
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:49 PM
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33. What it means is that on the day when americans get out of their
delusion that white americans are better than everybody else; that white life is more worthy than anybody else; that white americans are morally superior to everybody else; there will be more peace in the world.

Our system is so flooded in white supremacy, that we don't even see it like fish don't see the water that they swim in. That's why when the prison scandal broke, all this moaning took place. We're supposed to be morally superior, that's what gives us the right to fuck them over. Truth is, we're not better than anybody else.

We run from it because we don't want to talk about it. That's why some people think posts like this which point out american flaws that should be talked about, should be deleted.

Don't know what the fight is about. Just admit it, and move on.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:54 PM
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34. This is all speculative, and probably paranoiac...
... you can't really say that it's because he's white that people are upset - the graphic nature of the killing would be enough no matter his color. And you must have forgotten the uproar when that guy in Texas got dragged by the rednecks. I thought we would never hear the end of that.

No, I think identity-politics crimes get more than their fair share of attention.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:58 PM
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35. As I said. Fish don't see the water they swim in.
They think they're flying.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:01 PM
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37. Man, that's the best cop-out I've ever heard...
... it's the theoretical perfection of unaccountability.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:44 PM
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46. "the theoretical perfection of unaccountability. "
is the hood the current *misanthopistration is pulling over your head even as I type this.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 09:05 PM
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47. so how come no widespread outrage
from the huddled masses due to the many available photo's of Iraqi kids with pieces of their bodies blown off.

I really think you're deluding yourself - although technically this isn't about colour it's about culture - this outrage would still have occured if this was a dead black or spanish american but there are THOUSANDS of dead and mutilated Iraqi's and the great unwashed couldn't care less
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:01 PM
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39. preach, solomon, preach!
n/t
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:22 PM
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29. A choice freeperism . .
From fuzzthatwuz

Big mistake by AQrats. If they think this will make U.S. public want to cut and run they are misunderestimating us. Most will see this as a reason that we have to do more exterminating, more than ever.

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notimetoloose Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:38 PM
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40. Inflammatory
Why is it necessary to talk that way? This guy died! He was just 26 and didn't deserve what happened to him...

I guess I'm just getting tired of all the double entendre. I'm new, trying to get the hang of this. I've never posted on forums.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:52 PM
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41. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
of Iraqis do NOT deserve the atrocity the US *MIC has visited upon them. For this *rapist to continue running amok ALL that needs to happen in the "media" is a quick jerk on the racist mind-set that fuels this clusterfuck. Enter stage right (on cue after Fallujah and prison torture start making folks squeamish) ONE WHITE GUY doing ?whatever? there :shrug:, held in US custody til he's beheaded by unknowns A MONTH AGO and the gubmint releases the tape today. Now THAT will get everybody's attention off those messy details. PRESTO CHANGO! You see those barbaric brown-skins DESERVE to be wiped out! They killed an innocent white American citizen. If THIS doesn't prove it to you I'm sure there's another similar rabbit somewhere in that hat. :SIGH:
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notimetoloose Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:04 PM
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44. Wow
That was wierd. I thought a terrorist website released it. I don't understand the intensity of your post.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:56 PM
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42. But you knew enough to turn off your profile?
Edited on Tue May-11-04 07:57 PM by Tinoire
:eyes:

The spelling of one of the words in your profile is... reminiscent.
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notimetoloose Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:06 PM
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45. Profile
Hi...I'm very new here...and frankly new to posts in general. I went to the march for women's lives and found out about this website. I haven't been here before. Is there something wrong with my profile...and BTW..how do I get those cool pics on my own sig line???????
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:29 PM
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50. LMAO!
Same place you turned off your profile ;)

Under "Options", "Edit your profile".

You're a perky little thing lol. Love it.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:06 PM
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49. But but Look the guy was white not subhuman like all them a-rabs so
one white guy killed is way more bad than alotta of them brown skinned people that have been killed mutilated starved and tortured.
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