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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:36 AM
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Negative Kerry staements lies, lies lies..........
An earlier post mentioned both Boortz and Limpahhh making negative statements about Kerry's visit to a BBQ restaurant in Jacksonville Fl.

One evidently said he walked out in protest because the employees didn't have health care, the other said he ordered food and walked out without paying.

Unfotunately, their listeners only hear their lies. That's all they listen to all day and then watch FauxNews at night.

Here's the link to what really happened.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=18534

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:40 AM
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1. it doesn't address the "he didn't pay for his BBQ" issue tho eom
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:57 AM
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4. Picky, picky picky......
Much more on point than those mush mouths.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:51 AM
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2. It would have been comical if he praised the place
and then the owners would find that they lost a huge chunk of their "conservative" business because the conservatives boycotted it, since Kerry liked it.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:56 AM
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3. Rush and his neocon friends luv to HATE and pass out GUILT.
They are truly evil and are a cancer to this world, America in particular. Their intransigence, their rigidness to delusion is appalling and would be humorous if not so deadly in consequence.
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:52 PM
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5. The article does not say much of anything.
Here is how Firstcoastnews reports the incident:

QUOTE:
John Kerry arrived in Jacksonville just after 5 p.m. with an appetite. Hungry for a swing in this normally conservative area, and apparently for barbecue, Kerry stopped at Jenkins BBQ across from Edward Waters College.

It served as a perfect platform in Kerry's push to help small businesses get affordable health care for their workers.
QUOTE:

And here is how some sort of RW gossip rag reports it:

QUOTE FROM: http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6551
So Kerry's staff decided their man needed to spend some time down and dirty with the everyday folk. They asked Rep. Corrine Brown, the Democrat who represents the Jacksonville congressional district, to do some research and find a local hole in the wall that Kerry could visit.

"They said it had to be a place where Senator Kerry could appear to just make an impromptu stop, nothing planned," says a Democratic National Committee staffer doing work in Florida. "The campaign had a bunch of people scrambling for the right spot."

That spot turned out to be a Jenkins' Quality Bar-B-Que franchise. Kerry, who arrived at the restaurant with Brown in tow, made a point of ordering some ribs (on the house, as it turned out), asked to look at the kitchen, then announced to all that none of the workers had health insurance! With that, he and his contingent of staff and reporters left. Kerry the everyday guy barely touched his ribs. Perhaps because there wasn't a knife and fork and silk napkin around.

"That they have to stage these things, and then he can't even perform isn't a good sign," says a Democratic media consultant in Washington, D.C. "You'd think they'd have learned from that cheesesteak fiasco in Philadelphia, where Kerry didn't even know what the sandwich was. Just give up and let him be who he is."
QUOTE:

There is a bit of difference between the two stories. Which one is closer to the truth?

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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 02:24 PM
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6. Watch the video
You get a better appreciation for what went on there than in the written story. Granted it doesn't specifically address whether he paid for the ribs, or whether he even ordered the ribs. But it clearly shows he didn't storm out of the store.

My point was the RW Wackos spread half truths, and mislead their legions of kool aid drinking followers.

This was a photo op, and an opportunity for Kerry to make a statement regarding health care. Bushco does this all the time. It's part of the political process. The RW bigots make it sound ominous to feed their lackeys daily dose of misleading statements and lies.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 08:07 PM
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7. Just watched the video
MY GAWD, HE WAS ASKED A QUESTION, UNSCRIPTED, AND HE ANSWERED IT WITHOUT WAITING FOR THE ANSWER TO BE PIPED INTO HIS EAR! AND HE DIDN'T STUMBLE IN HIS WORDS!

Much harder to imagine Bush actually being asked a question, let alone one that actually might be more than a softball question. Almost impossible to believe that Bush would even be able to come up with a comprehendable answer.

Yes, Kerry was there talking about health care, but still, he did it well.

I also saw that there were no "first amendment zones" keeping opposition back. Try imagining Bush actually making an impromptu stop, a la Clinton.
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