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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:18 PM
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Berg Video: Questions re translation including "Al Qaeda"
(Add this to your list, Stickdog.)

From Another Day in the Empire
http://kurtnimmo.com/archives/00000111.html
05/13/2004: "Limbaugh, the CIA, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and the Godsend of Nick Berg's murder"

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It is generally assumed, with absolutely no evidence, that the five people in the Berg video are "al-Qaeda related," an absurd claim considering al-Qaeda is routinely blamed for every incident of terror in the world these days. The Bush Ministry of Disinformation wants us to believe "al-Qaeda" claimed responsibility for Berg's murder in a statement released with the grisly video. But as Octavia Nasr, senior editor of Arab affairs at CNN, explains it, there is no reference to al-Qaeda in the tape or statement:

O'BRIEN: Interesting. All right, now one final thought here. You did a very careful translation of your own, of the statement. And in it, you see no reference to al Qaeda. And yet the official U.S. government translation does. Explain how that happened.

NASR: Oh, I find it very interesting, because out of the blue, there is a mention of al Qaeda on the U.S. government translation. It says: "Does al Qaeda need any further excuses?" Any speaker of the Arabic language is going to notice a difference between the word al Qaeda, which means "the base," and al qaed, which means "the one sitting, doing nothing."

My translation says: "Is there any excuse for the one who sits down and does nothing?" Basically they're telling people, you have no excuse for not doing anything, for not acting and defending Islam and so forth. Whereas the U.S. government translation has this factual error, I'm sure it's an honest mistake, but basically it sort of adds al Qaeda to the statement, which is not on the statement.

-- more --

And here's the link to the CNN transcript: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/12/lol.02.html
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:21 PM
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1. octavia nasr
also says that that's definitely not zarqawi's voice. but she's being silenced by the network.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:22 PM
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2. Honest mistake my ass!
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:26 PM
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3. after she gave this interview
the network higher ups forbid her from talking about it anymore, fearing cnn would piss off the pentagon.

off air, nasr says she's highly suspicious of the tape. she says arab media are confounded. that the people speaking do not have jordanian accents but rather iraqi accents. and that the voice is absolutely not zarqawi's.

also, i spoke to a well respected army specialist who's background is in intelligence who tells me he believes too, that it's not zarqawi.

so why is the cia SO CERTAIN it is?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:30 PM
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5. the more they lie, the more suspicious it is...
She seems more credible than what the media is generally spewing.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:44 PM
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6. maybe
they know exactly who it is because he had instructions to create and effective diversion from the current scandal. Get us all focused back on the mission.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:52 PM
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7. thanks for the insight, newsguyatl n/t
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 09:42 PM
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8. Wow -- thanks so much for the info, newsguy
:hi:

That's amazing.

This definitely deserves a kick, even if I do say so myself.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:29 PM
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4. another "slam dunk" as Tenet would say? n/t
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 10:18 PM
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9. Thy will be done
Ultimate tinfoil interview on Now http://sce.m2ktalk.com:8030/listen.pls

topic: western voices at the end of Berg video w/ Alex Jones and Fintan Dunne

Fintan Dunne is the author one of the websites that sparked the tinfoil theads here at DU since last wed, and one of the first to expose the freeper connection.

Western Voice Heard On Nick Berg Videotape
http://www.BreakForNews.com/NickBergEnemiesList.htm
by Fintan Dunne, Editor BreakForNews.com
13th May, 2004 9pmET EXCLUSIVE

Western Voice--Berg Tape

A faint Western voice can be heard twice in the final seconds of the infamous videotape of the beheading of Nick Berg. The voice may be saying "Thy Will Be Done."

The sound can be heard in all copies of the tape which BreakFornews.com has examined. We have amplified the revevant section of the tape and you can listen at the link above.

:tinfoilhat:
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