YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

CONGRATS ALL!!!!

:toast::party::toast::beer::bounce:

...and NY's AG, Eliot Spitzer, says that NY will recognize the marriages! :bounce:


Spitzer, our next Governor!!

This man has done more for America than Asskroft could ever imagine.

but I am so glad that there is one state out there doing it.

Any law barring it may be ruled unconstitutional because your state must recognize marriages from Massachusetts under the constitution!

and are probably going to have the state constitutional amendment (pending court challenges to sigs). So our only hope here is that the US Constitution ends up making us accept the marriages. The only state nears us I have hope for is New York. Though Massachusetts is within a day's drive.

In MO we will vote on a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriages by only recognizing marriages between men and women. This includes marriages from other states. No same sex civil unions, or gay marriages would be legally recognized here. It will probably pass, is ridiculous, and no doubt will be challenged very soon. Unfortunately, it will mobilize RW voters in November.

http://archive.columbiatribune.com/2004/May/20040515News008.asp

The Full Faith and Credit Clause is not as, shall we say, stringent, as one would hope. There are ways around it (namely, the "public policy" exception) that would probably allow other states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages from other states. This, of course, is barring a SCOTUS decision that marriage is a fundamental right, regardless of the gender of the partner in question.

This is ignoring DOMA, which is so blatantly unconstitutional as to be irrelevant. Congress neither has the power to define marriage, even at a federal level, nor does it have the power to negate what compulsion the Full Faith and Credit Clause puts on the states.

For instance, the aforementioned public policy exception only applies to the closest relationship with the partes in question. For instance, a couple married in Massachusetts, travelling through Delaware, gets in a car accident. One partner goes to the ICU. Ignoring DOMA, Delaware would have to recognize the couple's marriage - the other partner would have spousal visitation rights. With DOMA, Delaware would not have to recognize the couple's marriage.

If you're interested, I can post my research paper on the topic once I'm finished with it.

but I will add my congrats too. :D

and you KNOW IT!! :D

:*

:loveya:

you ARE my kind of guy!!! :D

insurance laws, custody and visitation of children, right to sue on behalf of a spouse who is injured, pension benefits, right to be in the hospital room of a spouse, right to make health care decisions in an emergency, and about 100 other legal reasons.

There are numerous protections written into the law that apply ONLY to married persons.

That is why a couple would want to get married if they want to commit to each other and build a life together.

marriage is too much of a lottery.

;)

seeing as how i'm already married to a girl?

but it would be interesting if you did that and then moved back to a DOMA state. It wouldn't be bigomy there presumedly.

and every fucking politician out there knows it!

Once legal gay marrigaes occur in MA, the genie is out of the bottle and it won't go back in!

This is a MAJOR VICTORY in the battle for human rights!

Any reasonable reading of the 14th Amendment should have made crystal clear that Plessy v Fergenson was uncosntitutional. Yet it stood for decades. I would love to think DOMA will be ruled unconstitutional but I am not holding my breath.

Usurption of power by the federal government is not looked well upon by the more intellectually honest members of the SCOTUS (neglecting Bush v. Gore)

I really do.

:hi: :headbang:

YAY for Massachusetts!

I figured the supremes would have pulled something. I'm going to be an usher at a lesbian ceremony next year and have been tentatively invited to a couple of ceremonies.

Shine on.

that had been together for 40 years finally was allowed to get married.

Congratulations to them and all other happy couples.

"outing" people on the air(not vindictively I'm sure) and they'll be playing songs by gay or partially gay bands or bands they think are gay.

I'm really proud as one straight man as well.

Isn't that just amazing! {/sarcasm}

There must be a weeping and a wailing and a gnashing of teeth going on in FundieLand

HeeHee

to all couples tying the knot tomorrow. May you be as happy and in love as I am with my husband!

this is just the best -- first s.f., then oregon, and now mass. -- the times they are a changing!
and yes -- all str8 peoples marriages will be just the same.
i'm never able to formulate anything but rage for those str8 folks who think a gay marriage demeans their own.

And for those that do,

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

and, like in Canada, it will soon be a non-issue. I live in a community here that is very eclectic, including gays and lesbians and there is no conflict. One of the reasons my husband and I moved here was because of the acceptance of everyone, regardless of their politics, sexual orientation, lifestyle choices, etc. My children are now grown and have a great belief in the rights of everyone and I know this community had a great part in helping them understand this.

This is the 21st century, and the 19th-century mentality which posits that white, straight, wealthy, conservative (however you define that) Christian (however you define that) males rule, that people of color and women and poor people and non-Christians are inferior and thus must be subjugated, still permeates and pollutes this society. You'd think that people would be a lot more open-minded in this day and age.

If the supreme court was told to let this go so the GOP would have a "firing-up-the-base" issue come November.

:yourock: :party: :toast: :party:

...welcoming all who are lining up tonight for licenses to drop in for coffee and donuts. The news vans are all out there as of 10:00 this a.m. A number of gay parishioners will be getting their license tonight.

It's not easy for a lot of people to accept--I don't necessarily condemn them; change is hard.

But for my gay brothers and sisters, all I can say is,

Woo HOO!

:toast::party::toast::beer::bounce:

:kick:

I am getting goose bumps and tears are filling my eyes....finally something to be proud of in the news.

Congratulations to all who are getting married tomorrow and in the coming days. May you have joy and love always in your lives.

Millions of heterosexual marriages will NOT be at risk. There won't be panic in the streets. God certainly will not smite anyone.

It will be...normal. Gay people marrying will be...normal. Life will go on as always.

i can't WAIT to hear the collect "fundie-ROAR" tomorrow. will be ohhhhhsooooooooo

SSSSSSWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

few victories in this fundi-world but THIS one is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!

once again i CONGRATULATE all my gay BROTHERS and SISTERS!!

i :loveya: ALL!!!

the town will be jammin'....it will be exhuberant...

In kansas, RW will be hoping P'town falls into Cape Cod Bay...they'll be waitin' for God to send his thunderbolts shock and awing the gays...

I wonder which state will be the first to legalize gay divorce...

:toast:

n/t

As a straight male, MA resident.

I AM PUMPED!

This is so cool. Equal rights for all.

this is FANTASTIC!!!

:bounce:

:toast:

Congrats, folks!

YAAAAYYY!!!!! I am so happy! I will be watching the news, something I don't normally do, to see the happy couples!

I sent flowers three times to the couples in San Fransisco, I was so DAMN pumped about them getting married!

I'll have to whip out the VISA and send some more flowers to some couples in Mass!

Imagine me doing a happy dance! Equal rights means EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL, PEOPLE!!!!!!

And like someone else said, just imagine, the marriage I have to my husband (I am female) has made it through all this, SOMEHOW. :crazy:

married, and at the same time raise the tax base. after a year or two and nothing happens, just the same old same old another state will try to cash in on the deal. and the parade will begin.

Funny for all the christian talk, they will always go for the money. isn' that ungodly.

:grouphug: :loveya: :party: :toast:

http://www.blah3.com/love.html">LET LOVE RULE!

:headbang:
rocknation

it's nice to know there's still a place in America where "left-wing love" beats "right-wing hate"



On edit: Best wishes to everyone getting married ... period! I don't want to be accused of reverse discrimination - but an extra dose of good wishes for people who will finally be allowed to marry legally for the first time. ;)

A heart San Francisco congratulations to all in MA who will be heading down the aisle! :toast:

It's been a long time coming and it will still be a long time for the numbnuts to get over it, but it HAS begun, and aren't we damn lucky to be here for it! :)

Hell

There will be repercussions/backlash at the voting booth between now and 2006 (the earliest a gay marriage amendment, pro or con, will be placed before MA voters).

The level of backlash is speculative. In MA politics or voter opinion; a Liberal cause is not always a winning one (3 Repub Governors, Unz initiative... passed, repeal of rent control... passed, repeal of state income tax.. defeated by a much narrower margin than anyone had ever expected).

Cheryl Jacques Senate seat was lost to a anti-gay marriage Repub (despite her endorsement of her former aide, Angus McQuilken, as the Dem candidate who supported gay marriage). McQulikan lost by only 300 votes... and this was during the Presidential primary when Dem .vs Repub turnout was something like 3/1 (Kerry is the favorite son and * is running unopposed).

Gov Mitt Romney is pushing his agenda to replace Dem legislators with Repubs; and he's even pursing it in traditionally hard-core Liberal districts where a Repub has a snowballs chance in Hell of winning.

The whole Gay marriage thing is fine by me, but I have no doubt that it will have an adverse affect on the future of the MA legislature.

:bounce:

Two of my friends from Boston are getting married this Friday. I am flying there to be a part of it. They are 26, both current law students and have been together since they were 16. I am so happy for them

Tears of joy :)

Proud of Mass!

YEAH! Ecstatic for the loving couples! WOO HOO :toast:

Now they have the same rights I do!!!

:party:

flying to Massachusetts crashes and all of the Phelps family dies a painful, horrible death?