Janeane Garofalo likes John McCain!

She just said it on the Media Matters radio show. She must a FREEPER in disguise! We need to get that crazy b**** off the air NOW!!!

/sarcasm

With all due respect to her, if she studied his voting record, she would probably realize McCain votes with Bush 90% of the time and change her mind.

she's capable of independent thought. :shrug:

obviously she can draw her own conclusions, but McCain wants abortion to be illegal except in the case of rape or if the mother may die without one, and since Garofalo was at the recent pro-choice rally, I wonder if she's aware of McCain's position on that issue.

:shrug:

I wouldn't vote for McCain, but I like the guy as Republicans go. Even if I disagree with him more often than not, I still think he has more integrity than most in his party.

I don't want a conservative a heartbeat from the Presidency.

I didn't mention the Vice Presidency. You did.

he's a conservative REPUBLICAN. With a REPUBLICAN agenda!! Let him stay on the other side. We need a Democrat for VP we can still heal our country with a Democratic ticket.

exactly. A nice guy who is a conservative Republican doesn't belong on the Democratic ticket.

McCain is a CONSERVATIVE Republican, with a CONSERVATIVE agenda. McCain taking a few reasonable positions does not make him a centrist.

Once Kerry wins by a landslide, we need to keep the pressure on him to educate the country and pull us back from the precipice to which the conservatives have driven us.

Geez, people. Even putting his well established conservative positions aside, the Senate is still going to be almost evenly split. To even think of putting any Repubican in a position where they will get effectively an extra vote in the Senate is idiotic. If they want a Republican represented in the Administration, there are more than enough cabinet posts. Selecting McCain as VP is basically admitting that Kerry is *NOT* electable.

Guess so.

She can support whomever she wants.

However, I wonder whether she's aware of McCain's abortion position.

I wonder if she would want someone with that position a heartbeat from the Presidency and from making Supreme Court appointments.
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2003 On the votes that the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator McCain voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

2001-2002 On the votes that the American Civil Liberties Union considered to be the most important in 2001-2002 , Senator McCain voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

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The above voting record doesn't seem to me like one Garofalo would admire.

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Maybe she has studied McCain's voting record.

I don't know.

However, given her strong support of abortion rights, and that I've never heard her discuss McCain's specific positions, makes me wonder how familiar she is with McCain's voting record.

I can't ask her. I can only speculate that she wouldn't want a Vice President with a 0% NARAL rating and a 0% ACLU rating, until I actually hear her address McCain's voting record.

You can't admit Garofalo has done nothing to indicate that she would be unfamiliar with the voting record of someone she's willing to endorse for VP

By the way, you're doing one hell of a lot for women's rights in assuming a woman famous for progressive activism must be a stupid bimbo if she disagrees with your pronouncements of progressive purity.

John McCain's voting record is the opposite of the values I've heard Garofalo express.

Until I hear her address that discrepancy, I would say there is a good chance she is unaware of the discrepancy.

As far as endorsing him goes, she was responding to a question. It's not like she went out of her way to announce that McCain is the ideal vp nominee.

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I don't claim to know more than her in general.

I'm saying I may or may not be more familiar with John McCain's voting record, which is an extemely small area.

If Garofalo discusses McCain's voting record next week and explains that she wants him to be VP in spite of it, then we'll know my speculation was wrong.

You think it's likely Garafolo could endorse McCain for VP without knowing McCain's whole voting record.

That's a pretty significant indictment against someone who is a national progressive leader and commentator.

You're willing to make that charge based on wild-assed speculation on something YOU really have no knowledge of and you claim the only way that your wild-assed speculation can be proven wrong is through a very detailed special set of circumstances?

No... this needs to be called the wild-assed speculation that it is.

It raises questions for someone to endorse a VP whose voting record is the opposite of her positions.

I raised those questions.

We should try to get answers.

Maybe someone can call in.

You raised the smart questions of the dumb goofy clueless bimbo that dare to endorse someone whose voting record you have smart questions of? And the dumb bimbo has to answer smart questions based on your wild-assed speculations that she is clueless to endorse someone with McCain's voting record?

excuse me but a couple dozen appearances and a recent radio gig do not make her a national progressive leader.

Most people still think of her as a comic actress if they've heard of her at all.

i doubt he will be able to dictate or sway the Kerry Administration's platform on pro choice. I don't have the link offhand, but at the airport yesterday, i picked up a copy of the NYT. There was an article about Dems pushing McCain to join Kerry and it specifically stated that a top Dem. offical had stated that McCain is made aware of the fact that the kerry adm. will not tolerate any support for a justice nomineee who is willing to overturn roe vs. wade.

...every single seat in the Congress so we don't have ever have to deal with those pesky Republicans again.

:eyes:

McCain as VP. I guess I would stay home and that would be the first time in my life that I didn't vote and I have been around a long while.

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The two can be different things.

His positions are clear, honest and debatable. Unlike the majority of his R colleagues.....

His voting record is what made me not want him as VP. I didn't realize how far right he really was.

:evilgrin:

You're a real uniter not divider, pal.

So what is your position re Janeane Garofalo???

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Seems like she and Faux News have something in common - they're both pushing a Kerry/McCain ticket!

Can you imagine someone liking someone that they don't agree with most of the time? Doesn't make much sense. /sarcasm

Personally, I respect John McCain. Not many have his history and served their country the way he has. I may not agree with him on the issues, but I still respect him. He seems straight forward and upfront, no guessing as to where he is coming from.

He may have voted for some bushie issues, but he has also slammed bushie on more than one occasion. He is his own man doing his own thing.

The whole US position in the world has changed in the last two weeks thanks to the prison photos. As a former POW, McCain would be a great person to present to the world as a lead figure in reforming the US military in respect to US war crimes.

I have a lot of problems with many positions that McCain takes. However, we have a LOT more to consider now regarding how the world sees the US. McCain has credibility regarding issues of prisoner treatment that nobody else in America has.

We have to consider what McCain would offer to the world as a reassurance that the vast majority of American do not support the sickness that has become official US policy.

I don't want a Republican VP - not even a Repuke-lite!

The entire position of the US has changed in the world in the last two weeks. The US is most of the way to "rogue nation" status thanks to Dumbya and these prison pictures.

Us progressives are the adults in this country. We need to understand that we have to do anything and everything we can as Americans to atone for the crimes we have done. The American people DID NOT take to the streets when Dumbya stole the election. It did not go on general strike until the ballots in Florida were thoroughly and completely counted. The American People collectively sat on it's asses and allowed the presidency to be stolen from them. We Americans are to blame for putting Dumbya in power because we consenteed to his rule. We did nothing to purge the Executive Branch of our government of the thieves of the 2000 election.

We are to blame for Dumbya.

So... if we progressives can make visible display to the world that we do not tolerate war crimes by putting someone on the ticket who was a victim of the same crimes who will be seen by the rest of the world as hyper-vigilant on the issue of torture, then that is what we have to do.

We are in a realm of human affairs beyond party politics. What we did in Iraq was criminal, and we need to show the world we intend to ensure it never happens again.

and we need to get as many Americans of all political stripes together and do the right thing. This torture scandal is actually beyond domestic politics. Let's focus on bringing this bush Administration to justice and making sure our voting process is legitimate.

That makes no sense. Like everyone else, I'm very sad that John McCaine was the victim of torture at the hands of the North Vietnamese. But being a torture victim does not automatically qualify the man to run the country. And flagellating ourselves with the draconian suspensions of civil rights, and deprivation of the poor and middle class the Repubs would impose on us will not make amends to the Iraqi or Afghani people. Forcing sexually active women or those who are the vicitms of crime to bear children will not restore our national honor in the world's eyes. The man has worked to support legislation that is very harmful; he will not lift our ticket in any way.

You are a purity first progressive. You'd prefer Dumbya to win the election than ever compromise on any issue whatsoever. People who have no ability to compromise do not belong in politics. They belong in church making professions of faith.

Other than the obvious statement that Kerry would name all nominees, not McCain.

Other than the obvious statement that VPs have very rarely ever contradicted the stated policies of the President when casting tie-creaker votes, and McCain knows the concept of duty better than almost anyone in Washington. If Kerry were to offer and McCain were to accept the VP slot, it would be with the understanding he would serve the elected President and vote as was needed to pass the stated policies.

Other than the fact that McCain as Kerry's VP would basically ensure a landslide of such monumental proportions that there would be no tie-breaker votes because huge Democratic Parties would be swept into both houses of Congress on the Coattails of a McCain/Kerry ticket.

You have completely discounted the fact that America DOES need to show the world contrition in it's behavior in Iraq.

never

I don't agree with many of his ideas, but he has honor and integrity and while everyone else on the right was marching in lockstep, only he and a few others had the courage to disagree with *. He also has a great personal story and comes across as a guy one can trust,(yes, I'm aware of the S&L stuff). I don't want him on the ticket, but he is one of the few Repugs who doesn't disgust me.

I found myself having a real love/hate relationship with him and then I realized: "duh, I love him when I agree with him and I hate him when I don't." That's when I made this conclusion regarding John McCain...He is straight forward, he's a war hero, he has integrity, he says what he thinks/believes, and I honestly believe that at his core he's a good and decent man and not at ALL in the same arena as Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield. ...just my 2 cents :-)

to an embarrassing portion of DU. To them people like McCain aren't aren't respectable, funny, charismatic, or heroic, as probably 85 percent of the US public believes because he's a conservative

Obviously, I disagree with that "embarassing portion" more often than not - but I'd never write anyone off, especially if I were a politician who had to work with them everyday and get legislation passed.

as usual. Liking or not liking someone is light-years away from being unwilling to support their politics.

...I don't agree with McCain a lot of the time, but I can respect him. That is what I like about him. That being said, I don't think he should be Kerry's running mate. I wouldn't have a problem with a different cabinet position for him if he was willing.

He's kind of pissing me off lately. Maybe she's met him and likes him. Al Franken says he's good friends with Gary Bauer and you never would have thought that!

He's a fucking Republican! End of discussion!:puke:

Let's write him off too, eh? :eyes:

Unlike McCain, Clark has publicly declared himself a Democrat, something McCain has conspicously NOT done.

Thanks for playing, Paragon!

Guess what? I like him too. Would I vote for him on Democratic ticket as veep? Not in a million fucking years!

Enthusiastically in favor of it, she is. Sorry.

I still ENTHUSIASTICALLY LIKE Janeane Garafaolo but on this I think she's full of shit and doesn't have a clue what's she's talking about.

C'est la vie.

Not only do I think she's full of shit on this, I would actually work against such a ticket.

Thanks - I think that says it all.

Still dig JG, but totally disagree with her on this issue. :hi:

nt

We have to pick our candidates on the issues, not whether they're swell guys. His stances are republican, his life's work has been republican, and he's worked hard to oppose the Democratic platform his entire career.

Janine might end up voting for him--but I won't.

in the Democratic ticket ... I don't think we will see McCain on the ticket with Kerry, but it gives people something to rap about.

I think he's probably a decent GUY, especially compared to Chucklenuts Junior.

But do I want him on the Kerry ticket? No freaking way. And apparently he doesn't want it, either.

Getting sick of all this McCain crap.....maybe I'll check DU another day when everyone has come to their senses......

nt

where she made that infamous remark along with many insightful, witty remarks on other topics

Listen to the archive at the following:

http://www.will.uiuc.edu/am/mediamatters/

It was an excellent show.

So, she's pretty stupid about a couple of things

never shuts up, thinks she's the smartest, and
was never funny. blah blah blah

- That we ALSO must 'like' McCain or we're not 'good' Democrats?

- Never in my life have I seen the Democratic party SO desparate that they'd consider running a GOPer as VP in order to 'win' the swing vote. This MUST be an idea being circulated by the DLC. No progressive Dem would ever consider such a stupid move.