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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:37 PM
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You ain't gonna like this.. but... "McCain urged to join Kerry ticket"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/

just the messenger folks.. just the messenger..

McCain urged to join Kerry ticket
Biden says a joint ticket would help heal ‘vicious rift’ dividing U.S.

WASHINGTON - Sen. Joseph Biden, a senior Democrat, on Sunday urged Republican Sen. John McCain to run for vice president with the Democratic hopeful, Sen. John Kerry, in order to heal the “vicious rift” dividing America.

(snip)

“I think John McCain would be a great candidate for vice president,” Biden, from Delaware, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where the two senators appeared together to take questions on Iraq and other subjects.

(snip)

“Do I think it’s going to happen? No,” he said. “But I think it is a reflection of the desire of this country and the desire of people in both parties to want to see this God-awful, vicious rift that exists in the nation healed, and John and John could go a long way to heal in that rift.”

McCain, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee and in line to take over the Senate Armed Services panel in two years, endorsed Biden’s call for bridging the political gap between Democrats and Republicans.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:38 PM
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1. Please Stop Spamming GD With McCain Threads
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:40 PM
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3. It's current news...
Edited on Sun May-16-04 06:40 PM by Rosco T.
.. or does that mean the discussion must be CENSORED?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:55 PM
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10. Can the censorship crap
You've been flogging this McCain stuff hard. It's spam. You don't have to start a new thread every time the thought of Vice President McCain gives you the moist shivers.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:09 PM
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24. It's NOT news, but bullshit speculation
MCCAIN IS A GODDAMN REPUBLICAN
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:56 PM
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11. It's a news story.
Edited on Sun May-16-04 07:00 PM by JohnLocke
I see what you're saying, but you should focus your outrage on the vanity posts, not the legitimate news stories. Or just use the ignore list or the hidden thread function. :)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 07:02 PM
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17. You Mean The 20+ Other McCain Threads In GD Aren't Sufficient?
I am sick of having to hide so many freaking threads.

It's ridiculous and I am perfectly entitled to call SPAM as it happens.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 07:06 PM
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20. Two threads
arguing what a swell Vice President McCain would be and this news item thread using Biden's remarks to buttress the idea, inside of 4 hours, is spam. No crime in noting that. Thank YOU.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:38 PM
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2. Even McCain "flirting" with Kerry will help Kerry's crossover appeal
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:31 PM
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28. Exactly....
Having this in the news for a bit doesn't really hurt Kerry. It DOES give the appearance of true "bipartisanhip" on the part of JFK. It DOES give the appearance of fissures in the GOP. It DOES keep the image of veterans who first, served, and second, faced difficult circumstances in front vs the image of the "war president" chickenhawk who is conducting an immoral war.

Appearances and images can't be discounted.

As Stephen Colbert said on the Daily Show, these items are "fact-esque".
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:40 PM
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31. Well he'll need it to make up for the losses.
Because every flirtation with it drives me and other like-minded people closer to re-examining our reluctant decision to support Kerry in the first place.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:43 PM
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4. No need to panic.
Kerry knows that we activist dems and liberals are all ABB, so natch he's playing to the middle and right of center. He will ignore us for the whole campaign. I for one could care less. I don't even need to pay attention, because I know who I'm going to vote for. I also know that campaigning and governing are two entirely different things. He will play right throughtout the campaign, and that's all this McCaine thing is. There's no way he will be the VP. No need to panic, no need to worry. It's just about playing the game.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:45 PM
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6. BINGO. n/t
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 07:57 PM
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22. Well said, I am with you chaska! N/T



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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:45 PM
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5. A Deft Gambit ...
To line Dems up as the real "uniters." Without a doubt most Americans see that this country is deeply divided right now, as it was during the Clinton administration. Remember, * ran on the whole "I'm a uniter, not a divider" lie. I think all this talk is designed to position Kerry as the candidate who can make amends--both within this nation and internationally--for the sins of the * administration.

I doubt even Biden himself believed it was a possibility that McCain would accept. But there's a lot of political hay to be made it reaching out the the real conservatives--those who oppose Bush's interventionist policies and budget-busting spending.

Furthermore, remember that it is common practice to put members of both parties into the administration. Perhaps Kerry is considering McCain for a cabinet post--such as veterans affairs--or at least some high-ranking position outside of the cabinet.

The Democratic Party is a big tent!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:49 PM
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7. Biden said he doubted McCain would accept
I believe it is a political move to embarrass Bush, and I have no problem with it.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 07:01 PM
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16. If it is a game then we all need a laugh.
Elections are about changing the course of the Nation. Not gamemanship. No wonder people don't vote. Can't take it seriously.
Think Kerry/McCain will resolve social problems. Sounds like stalemate to me...
As to healing the Nation...What will heal the nation is not ignoring joblessness, lack of medical coverage, spreding the ravages of war, including its budget effects. Most of the non voters don't care about social issues. they want a stake of the pie, as a result of their own hard work.
If the Nation works as an economic entity, the social conservatives will be clueless. Most everyone thinks them nuts.
They have no intention of healing the Nation. They want the Nation one big prayer group with their version of right inflicted upon all.
There is no healing that divide..They must be defeated or else we must be forced to join them. So all this healing the divide crap is just that.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:55 PM
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8. Ok so a DINO asked McCain to join who cares it's still the
repugs talking repugs.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:55 PM
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9. This ain't spam. A few people here wouldn't like it but
Edited on Sun May-16-04 06:56 PM by Gman
Kerry-McCain would win in a landslide, a big landslide. And it would heal the cancerous split the right wing has created in the country. McCain is for all rights and purposes a center right Democrat, and even to the LEFT of the Bidens, Liebermans and a few other Democrats in the Senate.

Its absolutely inconceivable to me that people put any conditions whatsoever on getting rid of Bush such as who they will vote for and if the VP choice is liberal enough. These are not normal times. The country is in grave danger right now from the right wing.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:25 PM
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26. It's spam because the poster has started at least 3 threads
Edited on Sun May-16-04 08:25 PM by depakote_kid
with nearly identical content... and has a very low post count to boot.
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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:56 PM
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12. mccain
what could john mccain possible offer the democratic party---maybe he would want to move from a republican senator to a democratic senator when bush loses---that is the limit of the possibilities of mccain i can see---but i do stand to be corrected and enlightened should one so chose
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:59 PM
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15. If that's a serious question, I have thoughts...
.. but if I'm gonna be beat up by all that come thru... perhaps not.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 07:53 PM
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21. Must switch parties !!!!

If they do this, McCain must formally switch parties. The VP has to work for the president.

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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:58 PM
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13. I love it. Dems are finally growing a brain.
they need to outmaneuver and continually catch the GOP flanks off guard. If he can pull a few more of these out of his hat, by the time of the conventions and debate...THAT'S ALL SHE WROTE, b-b-b-bush.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:58 PM
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14. Go post this crap on Free Republic, and....
...take that faux-Dem, Biden, with you.

While you're at it, take Lieberman, Zell Miller, and Bob Kerrey, too. They're a pure waste to the Democratic Party.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 07:02 PM
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18. It was in the NY Times this weekend.
They were talking about it on the local NY stations.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 07:03 PM
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19. "Popular, right-wing, sentient cabbage for vice-president!"
No.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:07 PM
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23. It's not gonna happen so relax
McCain has said emphatically NO! He was on MTP saying it AGAIN this morning. He is campaigning for Bush and said he is a loyal rebublican. People are just trying to stir the pot with this one, but it ain't gonna happen.

Move on...nothing to see here...:)
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:16 PM
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25. John McCain....
Edited on Sun May-16-04 08:16 PM by deseo
... is nothing but a stinking Republican who occasionally speaks the truth. He has no more business being VP than I do.

I'm praying this is just a stupid rumor and that Kerry has not lost his freaking mind. And also that he stop dallying around and name a VP already.
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:31 PM
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27. you want him to name the VP before the convention?
isn't that a little presumptous? i know he's locked up and all but.. jeez, let's do it like we are supposed to.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:37 PM
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29. Right-wing & corporate power base sees * going down...need inside to Dems
I think the reasoning goes something like this:

Well, Bush is going down, so let's hedge our bet and still maintain some control by having a Repuke on the Dem ticket.

AND, people wonder why Nader is attractive to voters??

BRING BACK DEAN, NOW!!!!

JB
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:38 PM
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30. If that happens I will vote for Kerry in '04 but then I will become a
Green party member the day after.

Sorry but McCain is a Republican...and this just looks like DLC capitulation...
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:50 PM
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32. McCain was just on Fox
not that I watch that crappy joke of a channel. But since he was there, I listened for a sec or two. He defended shrub's policies in Iraq. He defended rummy.

Nuff said?

Now let's cut out the McCain crap. It's crap. He's never gonna be the VP on the Dem ticket and HE SHOULDN'T. We ARE NOT desperate.
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