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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:12 AM
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California to "randomly" select ballot spots for 193 candidates...
Who wants to bet that "Ahnult" and/or Simon are on the first page?

Anyone? Bueller?
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:14 AM
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1. That's silly
Why not alphabetical? How the hell are you supposed to find your candidate in a list of 193?

Morons.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:15 AM
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2. I'd love to see the names
There's go to be at least one name "close" to Arnold's that will get a bunch of votes from lazy voters.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:17 AM
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3. Yeah, they don't want Bustamante too close to the top...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:23 AM
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5. There's a BBV angle to this (anyone see NYT article on Sunday?)


Apparently the punch card ballots can't hold this many candidates, so some districts might be forced to use the touch screen machines for the first time, even though they don't want to.

Incidentally, I once was a poll-watcher at a punch card polling place (after 2000). The people running it told me the punch cards were 100% readable -- they'd never ever had a spoiled ballot -- SO LONG AS YOU CLEAN OUT THE MACHINE! In Palm Beach, they hadn't cleaned out the machines for something like 9 elections.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:17 AM
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4. Off the subject somewhat but look at this...
A CNN/USA poll of 801 people says that 64 percent would vote to recall Davis and
42% would consider voting for Ar-nuld!!! What do you make of this???


Link:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=511&e=3&u=/ap/20030811/ap_on_el_gu/davis_recall
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:28 AM
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7. CNN...Time...People mag..Warner... movie star..publicity hound
pretty obvious.. they are feathering their own nest :)

Create news about someone you want to write about.. Create a demand for stuff you produce.. Just "bidness" as usual..
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:33 AM
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8. Bwahahahahaha! Love that campaign sign, SCD!
:D :thumbsup:
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:45 AM
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9. Look at this link...
http://beatinggeorgebush.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_beatinggeorgebush_archive.html#106055821509434463

It makes the argument that the poll question asked is inaccurate!
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:11 AM
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16. SoCalDem, you are so right (in the good sense)
(Incidently, love the doorknob entry)
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:55 AM
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11. Closed Circuit
What those polls show is how effective the media is in getting Arhnohlds message out.

Really, since last Wednesday all cable news channels have been "all arnold, all the time". And we're surprised that the polls reflect this?

I's closed circuit feedback folks. Something or someone has to break the cycle.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:01 AM
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14. he has a message?
that's news to me!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:04 AM
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15. It's a simple message
"Hasta la vista, Gray davis."

That's the only "message" Ahnuld has.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:27 AM
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6. Oh, goody! So voters will have to peruse through pages and pages
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 10:50 AM by robbedvoter
of names to find their candidate. And you thought the butterfly ballot was bad? And will that random also include some lucky names in bold print? Caps?
Hey, I have a better idea: keep the alphabet, list by first names, non?
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:51 AM
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10. Could this work in Davis's favor?
A voter goes in and wants to recall Davis, but realizes there's ten pages of names to sort through and figures it isn't worth the effort and just votes to keep Davis.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:58 AM
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12. It increases chance that people will pick reandomly...
but it also increases the chance that one well-organized candidate will win by only getting their hardcore 7% or whatever base to vote.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:01 AM
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13. IIRC, most state election laws require this
And each precint must be seperately randomized.

Based upon the number of precincts, the number of candidates, and the number of potential listings, no two precincts in California should have identical listings.
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