Defense Research and Engineering Network just indexed my site

Here's their info. Can't find a web site about these people. They just visited every page on my web site as if they were indexing it with a bot of some sort.

Does anyone know about this outfit?

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DREN.NET

Website Status: not active
Record Type: Domain Name
Monitor: Monitor or Backorder
Wildcard search: 'dren' or 'dr' in all domains.
Other TLDs:
.com .net .org .info .biz .us
X X X X X X
Name Server: NS1.ARL.ARMY.MIL R21U1.HPCMO.HPC.MIL
ICANN Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Created: 05-nov-1998
Expires: 04-nov-2010
Status: ACTIVE
Registrant:
DOD High Performance Computing Modernization Office (DREN3-DOM)
Defense Research and Engineering Network
DREN
Arlington, VA 22201-4795
US

Domain Name: DREN.NET

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Johnson, Rodger (RJ4202)
DOD HPC Mod Office
1010 N GLEBE RD STE 510
ARLINGTON, VA 22201-5760
US
(703) 812-8205 fax: (703) 812-9701

Record expires on 04-Nov-2010.
Record created on 05-Nov-1998.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.ARL.ARMY.MIL 128.63.16.4
R21U1.HPCMO.HPC.MIL 192.240.135.5
NS1.NOSC.MIL

DOD High Performance Computing Modernization Office
and it came up with this site
<http://www.hpcmo.hpc.mil/>

There were several links in the google search and this is the one I went to.

http://www.hpcmo.hpc.mil/Htdocs/DREN/

Cheers.

If it's really only a high speed engineering network, why were they indexing my site? Why index a tinym insignificant web site that has nothing at all to do with the military, DREN or anything government?

Makes me wonder.

they are using that Carnivore to index all the United States sites on the web...only they don't call it Carnivore anymore it has another name.

Presumably to map out web sites that are connected for future DOD work of some kind. I hope they're not planning how to shut me down.

... and you got tagged. Or, equally possible, this is just an under-the-radar continuation of the mad admiral's Total Information Awareness program, or anything in between.

I'd pass this on to a friendly reporter and ask for it to be looked into.

Cheers.

It's like they shut off every page but their homepage....

Why I wonder?

You must have your Javascript turned off. They use a scripted menu system to link to other pages, the top links are inactive. Pretty piss-poor, for a gov't site.

or how to turn it off or on...

Right now.

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

but I looked at your site. My guess is they have tagged your site for future reference - such as when they declare martial law, need to find a scapegoat etc.
Good thing you caught it.

your slavery link (draft resistance) probably bothers the shit out of them

Can't quote it but I read about another site having problems
who was exposing the technical issues with the voting machines.

That would no doubt brand me as a terrorist :)

Humor aside, I think that's probably the most dangerous stuff on my site. Especially since the BFEE is going to use it again.

not to be alarmist or anything, I don't know jack shit about computers and the internet and crap like that, but I do know what most of those printouts look like, and THAT is official-looking military shit.

It would make me nervous, but what do I know?

Might just be a cube rat with a site ripper who enjoys your site (or hates it and wants to share with fellow pinheads).

I log as little as possible and overwrite it all ongoingly and I don't store user agents, only ips and referrers, and even then only remporarily.

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

... constantly accessing a webpage from mysite over several weeks, chewing up bandwidth and messing with my web logs. Finally put a stop to it by installing a .htaccess file with the following contents.

<Limit GET>
order deny,allow
deny from wcs2-belvoir.nipr.mil
deny from belvoir-sun1.iern.disa.mil
deny from belvoir-sun2.iern.disa.mil
</Limit>

Beats me as to why they were constantly pulling the webpage. I figured that since there was a Cyber Warfare school at Fort Belvoir, some student was practicing a weak DoS attack.

It's time to arm the left.

For me anyway. Your mileage may vary.

I'd like to know when my site gets indexed...how do you know when it happens? Is it in web analyzer?

...is merely reading and storing the contents of a web page(s) for future use. For example, Google indexes a large portion of the web. They literally save off the text so that when you search for "blah blah blah" they know where it is.

To answer another question in this thread, if you have a web server every access to every page/file is logged. The gentleman who posted this thread looked at his logs and noticed the activity.

You can use "robots.txt" to prevent search engines from indexing some or all of your pages, but a given spider/bot does not have to respect it. the .htaccess method of blocking a particular host is effective, but only to that host. Anyone who really wanted to get the info would simply do the retrieves from a different host.

What would be the point of it?

I know that sounds wierd, but who knows, maybe they'd give ya answer?

Sly.

<http://www.v6.dren.net/>

They have a warning at the bottom of the page:

"Warning! This Department of Defense computer system is subject to monitoring at all times. Unauthorized access is prohibited by Public Law 99-474 (The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986)."


...and the DREN Homepage:

<http://www.hpcmo.hpc.mil/Htdocs/DREN/index.html>


...and finally:

<http://whois.6bone.net/cgi-bin/whois?DREN>