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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 07:33 PM
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Teri Gross has Wm. Kristol on "Fresh Air" 8 p.m. Central
Kristol is one of the authors of PNAC.
This should be interesting.

snippet from Kristol piece in his RW rag:


"WE DO NOT KNOW how close the American effort in Iraq may be to irrecoverable failure. We are inclined to believe, however, that the current Washington wisdom--that the United States has already failed and there is nothing to do now but find a not-too-damaging way to extricate ourselves--is far too pessimistic, a panicked reaction to the difficulties in Falluja and with Moktada al-Sadr, as well as to the disaster of Abu Ghraib. We are also appalled at the cavalier and irresponsible way people on both left and right now suggest we should pull out and simply let Iraq go to hell. We wonder how those who, rightly, complain about the American mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners, can blithely consign the entire Iraqi population to the likely prospect of a horrific civil war and the brutal dictatorship that would follow. Spare us that kind of "humanitarianism."
Thank goodness the president says he remains committed to victory. Thank goodness there are stalwarts like Senators Joe Biden, Joe Lieberman, and Evan Bayh in the Democratic party who are fighting against that party's growing clamor for withdrawal. But loss of confidence that the war is winnable goes well beyond left-wing Democrats and isolationist Republicans. The Bush administration seems not to recognize how widespread, and how bipartisan, is the view that Iraq is already lost or on the verge of being lost. The administration therefore may not appreciate how close the whole nation is to tipping decisively against the war."



http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/056mvrqy.asp
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 07:37 PM
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1. Be sure to catch when Terry G. asks
Bill Project-for-a-New-American-Century-Kristol if the cost of the war is worth it.

He says if you think the war is worth it, it is worth it no matter what it costs.

I kid you not, heard it this afternoon.

He very openly blames Bush et al for messing up his war.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 07:48 PM
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2. Knee deep in the big muddy......
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 08:32 PM
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3. What a #$%(**(% head.
That slippery slime of a human is separating himself from everyone in PNAC and the President they all plunder under.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 08:37 PM
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4. smarmy fuck.
on my list of RW in need of a beat-down.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 08:47 PM
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5. was he in the studio, or calling from New York?
she should have asked him why he said that he could only tell the truth if he was in New York City.......

did you hear about that bit from Daily Show the other night?

it was discussed here, and I taped it

some very revealing snips in that one

would've been swell if she'd held his feet to the fire with soundbites from Stewart
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:27 PM
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6. Thanks for the warning. I'll skip it.
:puke:

Are some PNAC'ers backstabbing bush? No honor among these scumbag thieves, eh?



Read about the Right-Wing "Master Plan": http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html

Have you read "War is a Racket"?: http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:35 PM
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7. what a CHUMP
Edited on Tue May-18-04 10:37 PM by bpilgrim
i got the last half and he is such a POMPUS A$$ lol he said most americans KNEW that this war wasn't really about wmds :wow:

all he got is white board platitudes and the cartoon world view downpat and he thinks he smart, just by being well versed in such bs polmics :crazy:

even he had to admit to this admins INCOMPETENCE though... he will still vote for'em ;->

peace
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