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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:19 PM
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Would it be feasable to start screaming for IMPEACHMENT...
Edited on Wed May-19-04 01:21 PM by HOWLIN_WOLF
and WAR CRIMES HEARINGS AT THE TOP LEVEL OF THIS FASCIST GOVERNMENT?!?!?!?!
Look...what have we got to lose? These murderous sonsofbitches didn't listen to the protests around the world against attacking Iraq! If it becomes a partisan issue (as you damn well know it would be) so what? This shit has got to stop and it has got to stop soon...or their "Project For a New American Century" will be ready to be launched into high gear...and I'm convinced it is setting at the starting gate...ready to go!
Once AGAIN...I'm going to post what the Honorable Robert H. Jackson said...as the Prosecutor for the United States... at the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal...

"Repeatedly, nations have united in abstract declarations that the launching of aggressive war is ILLEGAL. They have condemned it by treaty. BUT NOW WE HAVE THE CONCRETE APPLICATION OF THESE ABSTRACTIONS IN A WAY WHICH OUGHT TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE WORLD THAT THOSE WHO LEAD THEIR NATIONS INTO AGGRESSIVE WAR FACE INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SUCH ACTS.

<snip>

IF WE CAN CULTIVATE IN THE WORLD THE IDEA THAT AGGRESSIVE WAR-MAKING IS THE WAY TO THE PRISONER'S DOCK RATHER THAN THE WAY TO HONORS, WE WILL HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING TOWARD MAKING THE PEACE MORE SECURE".

Where has the logic and purpose to this great man's insight gone? I doubt that were Mr. Jackson alive today that he would believe what is going on in the world...the very thing that he and others had hoped they had put a stop to! :mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr:
:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:24 PM
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1. Man, I'm about ready to grab my pitchfork and meet you in DC
This nation is sick, truly sick, and the monsters in charge need to be brought down, and I'm not in the mood to be polite about it. MoveOn's next rally should be soon, like tomorrow, and we should all be out screaming for regime change. Impeach the bastards, imprison them, lock them in Gauntanimo. Better yet, give Abu Graib back to the Iraqis and put Bush there.

We should be picketing every media outlet in the country with signs screaming for impeachment. Or else we are no better than the bloody Nazis, or at least their enablers.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:27 PM
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3. A friend of mine told me...
that the objective of these bloodthirsty, vampiristic neocon bastards was to eradicate 5.5 billion people from the earth's population! If that is fact, they've got a good start! It needs to stop...NOW!!:argh:
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:06 PM
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20. Absolutely...
it's because the people are sitting quietly doing nothing..and the rest of the world is watching the people be led down the path to their slaughter...The people MUST do it NOW!
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:26 PM
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2. Could not agree more -
I swear with all the "a terrorist attack WILL happen again" shit - I don't think we've got much time. MoveON, ANSWER - and any other group needs to get busy organizing - before its too late.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:28 PM
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4. nope
repukes CONTROL the house.

will. never. happen.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:30 PM
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6. I know that...
but if comes down to a "US" vs. "THEM" then so be it! The Dems sure as HELL don't have to go along with anything these leeches do!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:53 PM
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14. It wouldn't take too many crossovers.
Someone needs to draw up the articles and see what happens.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:54 PM
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15. Charlie Rangell would be just the right person...
he was yelling for Rumsfeld's head! Why not carry it a step further?
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:07 PM
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21. There's enough repukes who
are waiting for the people to do something because they're embarrassed as to what's being done..
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:29 PM
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5. You'd be howlin' at the moon.
.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:34 PM
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7. I feel like I already am...
Somebody at the top's head HAS TO ROLL...and I feel that it should most definitely be Rumsfeld for starters...and take "Biggy Rat" Wolfowitz along too! Putting that twink in Rumsfeld's shoes would be a step backwards!
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:35 PM
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8. It wouldn't happen, but could serve several purposes
Edited on Wed May-19-04 01:36 PM by TNOE
ONE - make it painfully obvious to the world and media that A WHOLE LOT OF AMERICANS HATE GW and want him FIRED.

TWO - Let other countries know that we do not stand behind this pResident and his muderous actions.

THREE - Let George and the powers that be know it is going to be damn hard for them to steal the election when millions of people are out in the street demanding his removal.


Oh yea - and FOUR - its the only way we have left to take back America, if we don't do this, we will all regret it, probably more than the stolen election of 2000 and 9/11 put together.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:38 PM
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9. Something must be done...
with stamina and over a long period of time! Bumper stickers of what Judge Jackson mentioned about "AGGRESSIVE WARS ARE ILLEGAL" would be a novel idea!
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Lin Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:46 PM
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10. I feel your wrath, what's it going to
take to make ppl rise up and scream "NO more"!? How long can these neocons ride roughshod before we do something that is HEARD?...should say ACKNOWLEDGED!? Stakes are so high now that I s-h-u-d-d-e-r to think what awful thing will have to happen before the countrypeople final have enough.....should it be started little battles at a time (get Bloody Fox News to be held accountable for cheering on this bloodbath?) or ONE BIG move such a world rally?
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:57 PM
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18. Welcome to DU Lin
:hi: - so glad you're here! Great post.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:48 PM
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11. Yeah, yer howlin at the moon, but...
there's a lot of people who feel the frustration.

Impeachemnt is out of the question with a Republican House, and we don't belong to the ICC. So, there's really no recourse but the ballot box. Revolution is doomed to failure, and might not be such a good idea anyway. Think Marat and Castro.

We held the Nuremburg trials for one simple reason-- we won the war. It's the ones in power who bring the charges and try the guilty and the good guys had the power for that one shining moment.

Not now. And not in the foreseeable future.

Stay pissed, though, and don't give in.

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:09 PM
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23. I'm getting beyond caring whether it's feasible
I'm just getting tired of decapitated children and prisoners tortured to death by OUR EMPLOYEES. Someone needs to know our rage.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:49 PM
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12. Screaming can't hurt, but focus efforts on election
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:52 PM
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13. I just may start SCREAMING...
AT the ballot box! Of course I'd be hauled away for lunacy and...or...disruptivness I suppose.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:56 PM
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16. There's no real chance of impeachment, but let's annoy them!
A bit of focused screaming can be quite therapeutic.

Most energy should be directed at getting out the vote, getting the vote counted & getting the bastards out of DC!

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:57 PM
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17. I am right with you.
Lead by example.
If we hold our own to the standards which we aspire and which they give lip service it will go a long way toward showing to the world that we are not full of shit : hippocrites.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:04 PM
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19. Absolutely not
Do you want President Cheney? That is what you would get if you impeached and removed Bush. Do you really think that President Cheney's policies would be much different than Bush's?

Oh course your could impeach and remove Cheney too, but that would just create President Hastert. Again, not much change in policy.

But all of this is moot. A Republican Congress is not going to impeach and remove a President they agree with.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:09 PM
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24. The point is to wake America up to their crimes
ALL OF THEM - too late for impeachment, won't happen, we know - but we MUST let the world know there's a whole bunch of Americans who hate GW and don't approve of him.

Not only should he not be re-(s)elected - but HE SHOULD BE FIRED! All of them! Forget impeachment - we just need to get hundreds of thousands organized and have "Fire Bush, et al" signs. In the words of Donald Trump - You Lied, You're Fired!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:18 PM
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27. Take them down one at a time if we have to
Impeach Bush, Impeach Cheney (He couldn't win an election on his own, anyway), impeach Hastert... sooner or later we get to Pelosi, or we wind up with Kerry.

If nothing else, it would be a good message to Kerry.

My worst fear is that Bush will be beaten and allowed to simply retire with impunity, and that will leave the door open for the same crew to slip back in under the next Repub-- JEB, maybe. We need to brand them all as criminals and squelch their reemergence before it happens.

We can win in November, but they will dog Kerry for four years as they did Clinton. We need to nail the door shut on them this time.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:22 PM
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28. It's their "MONEY"...
money...money...money...money that keeps their murdering asses out of the judicial process! It's gonna take a group with a lot of moral clarity...and money of their own to bring these scum-suckers to be held accountable for all they've done to lay waste to this country!
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:08 PM
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22. I've been screaming for awhile...
Get yourself a cap for when you lose your voice from screaming.


http://www.cafeshops.com/indigobusiness
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roach23 Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:14 PM
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25. hell no
If we impeach W, then who would run on the republican ticket? Notice how visible Mccain has been lately? If we impeach Bush, then they could run Mccain, and he would probably win. Then we would have a president that has agreed with W 90% of the time. We have to let Bush run, so we can win!!
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:17 PM
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26. If Bush & Co. were fired (impeached)
I don't think the Repubs would need to worry about who was on the ticket - because that would pretty much be the end of the Republican party

Nixon - Watergate
Bush - 9/11, Treason, War, Murder

They'd be done for quite a few years.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:24 PM
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29. That is so Machiavellian.
Doing the right thing for its own sake is the bedrock of integrity.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:39 PM
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30. Even if it CAN'T get thru the House, it still....
..needs to be started, and here's why.

1) Articles of Impeachment, would be 'read into the record' when presented. No matter what happened later, they would be out there.

2) They WOULD get printed in the newspaper, you would have poll after poll after poll on it.. what do you think the results of that would be?

3) It shows THE WORLD what the AMERICAN PEOPLE think of Shrubya & Co.

4) OK, they House shoots it down... but THINK of the TV Coverage, wall to wall on the debate.

5) ... but WHILE they are shooting it down, they have to DEFEND it. Just watching them run in circles and dancing will tear them down.

6) WHO KNOWS, maybe, just maybe some 'pugs will VOTE FOR IT.

If nothing else, it would be DAMMNED INTERESTING.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:19 PM
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31. Brilliantly worded Roscoe T....
that's the idea...to draw attention. Perhaps even draw out some more filth on the Fascists! Look...the traditional Republican I don't think is for this idea of "conquering the world" or further destroying our Constitution. It's this band of fatcats who want everything...just because there is no one to stop them from taking it! Wonder how they'd react if the military turned on them!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:26 PM
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32. Well thought out, RT...
Even though actual impeachment would have all the aerodynamics of an anvil in the Republican-controlled House, let's get it **all** on the record.

:toast:
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