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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:11 PM
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Time/CNN Poll - 53% say they would vote for a Dem for Congress.
40%, yes 40%, of likely voters say they would vote Republican. While everyone is watching the presidential election, it appears that Republicans are wearing out their welcome in the Congress. I looked at a similar poll last year and only 39% of voters were picking a Democrat. There aren't that many districts that could go either way, but I sure like the current trend.

http://www.pollingreport.com/cong2004.htm
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:12 PM
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1. Is that why they were pushing thru more taxcuts today ???
get 'em while they can because they may not have the opportunity after November???
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:14 PM
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3. I think you are right.
I've been waiting to see the push for more permanent tax cuts as a sign that they are thinking the jig is up.
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:14 PM
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2. With the country so thoroughly gerrymandered...
Edited on Wed May-19-04 09:19 PM by JavaJive
that may not be enough. :mad:

Edit: Hmmm... I should have read that more carefully. I saw 53% and assumed it was 53-47. Damn! I hope that holds up. ;)
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:19 PM
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6. You're right
If this is a poll of the population at large then it is meaningless.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:17 PM
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4. If Kerry wins, the Democrats will take back the House....
Guaranteed ! :)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:18 PM
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5. I'm hopeful that the incompetence of these idiots...
... will have a larger effect than merely a Kerry landslide; but the damn Congressional districts are so bloody gerrymandered that a national poll like this doesn't have much meaning.

Still, the 53/40 edge is better than nuttin. xx
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:25 PM
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9. I've been thinking that it's not enough to win. They have to get the snot
beaten out of them. It's the only thing that will shut them up. At least for a little while.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:21 PM
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7. The Congress is far more important than the Presidency.
"Retiring" as many of these assholes as possible is the most
important thing we can do.
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:39 PM
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12. Its hard for me to agree with that after the way this Mob
in the WH took us to War in Iraq but I totally agree that we must have control of at least one of the branches of Congress.

If this Admin. ever had to worry about real Congressional investigations they would have either governed differently or Shrub would have already been impeached.

I'm sure we won't get through another Presidential term without any Supreme Court Justices stepping down so we definitely need Kerry in the WH.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:52 PM
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16. I understand your point.
But the fact is that the Congress is the 800 lb gorilla in the
US government. They can impeach ANYBODY, they can make law,
they can tax and regulate, and that is how it was intended to be.
The fact that the Congress finds it convenient to hide that power,
or to delegate it to the President, does not change that.

And Congress can act both quickly and decisively when it chooses.
Mr. Bush got all sorts of laws passed, despite the fact that he
had NO mandate whatsoever. That was not an accident, and it was not
because of any political power that Mr. Bush wields or has ever
wielded.
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:11 PM
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18. Right now, it is almost like that branch of gov't doesn't exist
because they have just abandoned their constitutional role to be the water boys for this Admin.

Cheney and * wanted to "strengthen" the role of the Presidency. The Repub leaders of this Congress obviously take their loyalty to party more seriously than their constitutionally mandated role.

I vaguely remember the significant powers of Congress. Your reminder is helpful, because it has been so long since they have actually used them.:think:

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:17 PM
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19. Politics is theatre.
It is Shrub and Cheney that are the water boys.
Unless you understand that, you don't understand anything.
Shrub and Cheney have NO independent power, other than what
they are allowed to have. I am reminded of Kerry's comment
WRT Iraq that "Nobody expected them to fuck it up that badly".
They knew perfectly well what power they were delegating to
Shrub, they merely underestimated his ability to fuck things
up.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:24 PM
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8. problem with this is ...
that people think their Repuke isn't the problem, its the other Repuke in the next district/state
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:29 PM
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10. President Re-Elect Bush over a Democratic Congress . . .
a remote possibility, but the mind reels as to what might happen.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:36 PM
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11. Starts with "I."
...and it has the word 'peach' in the middle.

It wouldn't necessarily be successful, but there'd be at least a trial, a la Clinton.

-MR
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:51 PM
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15. I hate to say it . . .
but considered over the long run, this could be the best possible outcome of all. Although I wonder whether there could be an impeachment proceeding if Bush had an electoral "mandate." The mandate might ward off that i - word -- which would put us back in the realm of the surreal.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:44 PM
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13. Gerrymandering
this means nothing.

Incumbents have over 90% reelection rate.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:50 PM
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14. But isn't it likely that if they'd vote for a Dem for Congress, they'd
also vote for a Dem in a Senate race?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:57 PM
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17. I don't know,
I do not know many people that take voting for their congressperson very seriously.

I know people who always vote to reelect.

I know people who always vote for the challenger.

I know people who always skip that part of the ballot.

Most congressional districts are made to be safe for incumbents, and I don't think we'll see much movement this year, or for very many years, seeing as the fiasco Texas pulled off last year.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:19 PM
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20. One thing you're forgetting. People have always liked the
advantages of a Congress of a different party than the President. It's been kind of a joke for years. The media made a big deal about the "gridlock" and maybe people said, OK, let's give the all one party thing a try. Well, maybe all those people don't like the results.

I realize there's no way the dedicated Pugs or Dems are ever going to change their mind, but the people that actually make wins and losses happen might!

I think it's more important that each of us promote the idea that a divided Fed. Gov't really does work better for the citizens. Even some Pubs should recognize that. Yes, it's slower, and not a whole lot gets done, but I really believe most rational people recognize the division restrains one party, no matter which one it is, from spending us into bankruptcy.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:26 PM
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21. I've always been a big fan of gridlock.
Greasing the skids really doesn't work.
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Peregrine Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:55 PM
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22. I can't vote for a Dem for the House
My repub rep is running unopposed. Tom Fenney, the rep from Florida's space coast. He is the one calling for US domination of space.

I'll just have to wait and see who my Dem nominee for the senate is.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:12 PM
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23. Write someone in, anyone, "Donald Duck" is good. nt
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Peregrine Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:30 PM
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24. I was going to vote for myself (nt)
.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:35 PM
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25. Even better. At least you know what to expect if you win. nt
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:39 PM
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26. Why don't you RUN AGAINST HIM???
At least you'll have a chance to get some good talking points in! Or, if you're not the type, then talk one of your friends into it... someone in your local Dem party that you like.

:shrug: What can it hurt? It MIGHT work!

:kick:
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:44 PM
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27. With the new touch-screen machines owned by the right wing
Edited on Wed May-19-04 11:44 PM by loudsue
We'll need to have a MUCH higher margin of people ready to vote out the repukes.

And once we get the vote machine thing where it can't be hacked, we'll trade in some of our DLC Dems and get this country back into the hands of the PEOPLE once again.

I want to make sure we get enough people ACTIVE in politics across this country that we NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER AGAIN have the opportunity to get ourselves into a mess like we're in today. We are SOOOOO dangerously close to losing our Democracy, it makes me crazy.

:kick::kick:
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 12:15 AM
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28. U.S. headed in wrong direction.
Recent polls say only 31% think the country is going in the right direction. Since Repukes control all three branches of gov't, I say blame them all: blame Republicanism.

As Dick Cheney would say: "They had their chance."
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