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Coldwulf Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:49 PM
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NEEDED: A good pro Clinton site
I need a site that is well researched to debunk an Anti-Clinton email being reposted in a forum I'm on.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:50 PM
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1. Bartcop is the best
You can also check out Snopes if you must, but Bartcop will give you the goods to make your rebuttal, and the attitude to make it stick.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:54 PM
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2. I'm partial to Democratic Underground
:)
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:03 PM
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3. Yes, check www.snopes.com
They usually - grudgingly - will debunk smears against the Clintons.

If you just want general pro-Clinton information, check Marc Perkel's page at:

http://www.perkel.com/politics/clinton/accomp.htm
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Coldwulf Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:39 PM
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4. These claims specifically...
These are the email crap that I want to debunk...Snopes is only a little help.


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I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that, and I am sending my "Thank you" for what you have done, specifically:

1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick. Did I leave anyone out?

2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really planned to wait until he was a little older to discuss it with him, but now he knows more about it than I did as a senior in college.

3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to know is what the meaning of "is" is. It really is great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex, and one person may have sex while the other one does NOT have sex.

4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie "Wag the Dog" could be plausible after all.

5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and John Kennedy look moral.

6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising.

7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton" scandals.

8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips.

9. Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of dollars (I really didn't need it in the first place, and I can't think of a more deserving group of recipients for my hard-earned tax dollars) for all of your globe-trotting. I understand you, the family and your cronies have logged in more time aboard Air Force One than any other administration.

10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons of convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have them rejoin society. (Not to mention the scores you pardoned while Governor of Arkansas)

11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware. I'm sure that Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming gifts you've received from your "friends."

12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House for vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I also appreciate removing all of that excess weight (China, silverware, linen, towels, ash trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1. The weight savings means burning less fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on jet fuel. Thank you!

13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million dollar advance for her upcoming "tell-all" book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for your memoirs. Who says crime doesn't pay!

14. The last and most important point - thank you for forcing Israel to let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners". However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports. Why shouldn't Americans know the real truth?

What a guy!!

If you agree that the American public must be made aware of these facts, pass this on. God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my taxes so wisely and frugally.



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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:51 PM
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5. Whee! Right-wing talking points!
Google "Thank me, I voted for Clinton-Gore" and you'll get 168 hits from the usual suspects. This may be the origin:
http://www.sareview.com/thanksclinton.html
or it may just be somebody that tacked more stuff on (like the Senate pension bit debunked by Snopes). Uhh, I'd let it go; the person who sent this is so far gone that the truth will probably make no dent in their talk-radio-supplied armor. My one constructive suggestion is that no doubt there's some kind of staff for the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock. Not to be all cynical, but it would seem that they would have some experience in defending Clinton's legacy.
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Coldwulf Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 07:21 PM
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6. good thought
I'll check them out, :0 bet they even have an online site.
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