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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 02:16 AM
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the evil Perle: Chalabi a spy? Blame the CIA
An evil, evil, evil man.

On Nightline. He said that if Chalabi is a spy, blame the CIA for its ineptitude.

But Chalabi has been Perle's creation and hand-picked freak.

Look at this from just a month ago:

It was quite an experience to be on the same panel on Tuesday with Richard Perle and Toby Dodge, before the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. Perle wasn't added until the last minute, and it is mysterious why he was there, since ours was supposed to be an "expert" panel. Dodge has an important book on Iraq. Originally Ahmad Hashim was going to be on with us (he came Wednesday instead), and then we heard Perle had been put on. Perle, of course, is no Iraq expert. He doesn't know a word of Arabic, and has never lived anywhere in the Arab world.

Perle's entire testimony was a camouflaged piece of flakking for Ahmad Chalabi. He complained that the State Department and the CIA had not created a private army for Chalabi and had not cooperated with him. Perle did not mention Chalabi's name, but it was clear that was who he was talking about (State and CIA famously dropped Chalabi in the mid-1990s when they asked him to account for the millions they had given him, and he could not).

In fact, Perle kept talking about "the Iraqis" when it was clear he meant Chalabi. He said the US should have turned power over to "the Iraqis" long before now.

But here's an interesting contradiction. I said at one point that I thought Bremer should have acquiesced in Grand Ayatollah Sistani's request for open elections to be held this spring, and that if they had been, it might have forestalled the recent blow-up. I had in mind that Muqtada al-Sadr in particular would have been kept busy acting as a ward boss, trying to get his guys returned from East Baghdad & Kufa, etc.

Perle became alarmed and said that scheduling early elections would not have prevented the "flare-up" because the people who mounted it were enemies of freedom and uninterested in elections. Perle has this bizarre black and white view of the world and demonizes people right and left. A lot of the Mahdi Army young men who fought for Muqtada are just neighborhood youth, unemployed and despairing. Some are fanatics, but most of them don't hate freedom-- most of them have no idea what it is, having never experienced democracy.

But anyway, what struck me was the contradiction between Perle's insistence that the US should have handed power over to Iraqis months ago, and his simultaneous opposition to free and fair elections. The only conclusion I can draw is that he wants power handed to Chalabi, who would then be a kind of dictator and would not go to the polls any time soon.

http://www.juancole.com/2004_04_01_juancole_archive.html#108261646309101209
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 02:27 AM
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1. The only thing Chalabi cares about is Chalabi.....
I don't understand how a neo-con hand picked person can lead a muslim country without any constituancy. I would never trust anything coming out of either persons mouth. It might even be possible they are trying to pump him up. Chalabi is playing a dangerous game now that he is in Iraq. If he is strongly disliked, I would not be surprised of an assaination plot by the Iraqis.
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corriger Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 02:48 AM
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2. exactly
this guy is no more a spy than james bond.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:37 AM
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3. Another thing about the "intelligence"....
What good is our intelligence? Exactly what could he have had that was so valuable. Was the intellgence properly interperted to prevent 9/11? Going back furthur did it accurately portray the Soviet Union? Did it give the correct picture about Iraq WMD? No the intelligence agency is a joke. Either that or no one in this government takes it seriously. Just ask our "Honorable" Secretary of State.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 05:03 AM
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5. Maybe He is the one that has Truman's ? 'The Buck stops here"
Bush will have to put this mess on to some one and this guy looks like a good one to aim at. Every one now seems to hate him.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:43 AM
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4. Pearl said on C-SPAN last Saturday that Chilabi was the best person
to put in charge on June 30. What do these two have going for themselves?
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