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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:29 PM
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Is 5 weeks of campaign cash worth a ton of bad press?
It's unprecedented, so no one really knows what the final net result will be if Kerry decides to do it.

I'm still on the fence -- Bush has shown a propensity the last few months to flush his own campaign down the toilet, so maybe we can get by OK.

On the other hand, it's gonna be a bunch of bad press -- not to mention making a whole bunch of Bostoners pissed off about the traffic wonder if they're getting pissed off for nothing.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:33 PM
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1. I think its a smart move
Why blow his wad 5 weeks early defending himself against right wing conservanazi attacks.
I'd say wait.
I would pick a running mate though in the next three weeks!
I think its a good thing to wait.
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:33 PM
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2. no it's not
but why can't the donkeys figure out how to scedule their convention 8 weeks later?
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:34 PM
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3. NO!!! Kerry should just let the Republicans spend themselves silly
No amount of money will cover up for the shameful treasonous behavior of this administration.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:36 PM
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4. Why will there be bad press?
You don't know that, Paragon.

Most of what I've seen so far has been supportive of his decision.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:39 PM
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5. OK, smartypants - you spin this for me:
Not accepting the nomination at the nominating convention.

It'll be bad press.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:00 PM
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11. Not accepting the nomination at the convention
Edited on Sat May-22-04 07:11 PM by supernova
is not the same thing as not accepting the nomination at all. Especially if he explains his reason for doing so ahead of time.

You're acting as if the convention is the be all and end all. The convention is window-dressing now; it isn't the earthquake-making event it used to be. That's why we have primaries now.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:43 PM
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6. Agree with supernova
(Uh-oh, my agreeing is kiss o'death, be warned.)


It's original thinking, moreso than DUKAKIS and GORE's picking unusual running mates. More substantive and concrete. Although it *does* point up the artificiality of our system, this "accepting" (or not) being a technicality-------we tend to deny de facto reality.
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:43 PM
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7. I agree, this changes things
Makes Kerry look like he is adapting, plus what form will the "bad Press" take? If taking a page out of the Republican Playbook will bring "bad press" then it stands to reason that this will tarnish Bush.

Kerry can take a shot or two, but if Bush keeps getting anymore "bad press" then you can expect an attempt at a brokered convention to get maybe McCain nominated. This won't happen but it could set up McCain for a run in 2008. Ala Reagan in 1976.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:44 PM
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8. The way I see it...
If he's gonna get bad press for it, it will because of the inherent bias of the media and they would find something else to pin on him. It's not that big of a deal and I don't see why they should act like it's a mortal sin. They should simply make it clear that they wish for an even playing field with the Bush campaign and this is the simplest way to ensure that. The American people believe in fairness, after all.... <ahem>
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:52 PM
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9. Why isn't anyone bringing up how several states had to change
their laws to get Bush on the ballot because he postponed the GOP convention so late?

Kerry would just being evening the playing field after Bush tilted it to his advantage.

However, I don't know if the media will let Joe Q. Public know this.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:57 PM
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10. It's pissin' off the inbred, drunk, chickenhawk punks over at FR...
...so it must be right.

:toast:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:09 PM
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12. How do finances look at this point
are we about even in funds ? I heard bush
has spent close to 100 million already .
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:12 PM
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13. Funds so far
Bush has about $177 million

Kerry has about $117 million.

Even with the astronomical fundraising on both sides, we Dems are STILL behind!!
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sophie996 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:14 PM
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14. 5 weeks
it points up inequities, and that's good. counter the bad pres with ltte, phone calls.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:19 PM
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15. you can guarantee there will be mega bad press....

Say what you want, but it ain't gonna be money that wins this for the Dems...its about presenting a clear message and getting out the base. One on one with folks...not glitzy high dollar ads. (Well maybe if the ads actually said something....:shrug:

I just don't see this as a smart move...looks too much like political games-just like what we accuse the other party of doing...add a bit of wishy washyness in there too...not a good combination IMHO.

Peace
DR
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:28 PM
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16. Repukes Will Fight It Now, But In 2008 They'll Want To Do It As Well...
I GAH-RON-TEE it!

-- Allen
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:45 PM
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17. I think the whole system should be changed
so that public money is available on this date (and pick one) for any one who qualifies.

I think Sept 1 is a good date. Have your convetion any day you want. You don't get Fed money until Sept 1 and no one has an advantage over another because everyone gets the money at the same time.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:53 AM
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18. In a word, YES
Money buys ads on regular TV that reach people that don't watch cable news 24/7. The people who will be exposed to partisan bickering over this arcane issue have already made up their minds one way or another.
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