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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:38 PM
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Shepard Smith is straight.
Edited on Wed May-26-04 04:10 PM by Paragon
Until he says otherwise. End of discussion.

Regardless of the individual, it is a choice that must be respected. There are still many people of a nobler political stripe who continue to make this choice.

Do we out them, too?


ON EDIT: I'm pretty sure the morans watching Fox News think that every on-air personality on the network has "heterosexual" on their resumes. Of course straight is not the "default".
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:41 PM
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1. Perhaps a compromise is possible.
We could just make fun of his horrid makeup.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:41 PM
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2. He's straight? How dare you out him?
You could do irreparable harm to him by reporting his heterosexuality, the most private of all things.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:42 PM
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3. Still not quite right
Shep Smith's sexual orientation is unknown unless he chooses to make it known. (Why have Straight as the default position? I've never heard Smith say he was straight or say he was gay.)

Best handling of this sort of thing was when a tabloid said Tom Selleck was gay and he called a press conference to let his Friends know he was straight and he hadn't been deceiving them all these years. When asked whether he would sue the tabloid he said (paraphrase), "for what? If there's nothing wrong with being gay it's not defamation."
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:48 PM
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12. troublemaker...
Bingo, and bravo: "Why have Straight as the default position?"

(Btw, Keanu Reeves & Matt Damon have both made statements similar to Selleck's.)
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:25 PM
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31. Uh oh! Showing my age.
re:(Btw, Keanu Reeves & Matt Damon have both made statements similar to Selleck's.)
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:38 PM
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39. LOL...
Not likely, mate. :)
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:54 PM
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18. If you're on FOX NEWS, I'm pretty sure you're assumed straight.
I make no such assumptions anywhere else.

Besides, this thread is merely a response to this one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1667287&mesg_id=1667287
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:43 PM
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4. He's a flaming queen cross dressing Butt boy
who gets it each night from Bill O'Reilly .... I know this cause I know a friend who knows a friend...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:43 PM
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:44 PM
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6. and he's STILL a Fuckwit too!
:boring:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:44 PM
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7. Out 'em all
gay teens commit suicide every day because of shame. A huge portion of my generation of gay men is dead because nobody much cared when AIDS was only killing "fags".

The world would be an infinitely better place for gays and lesbians if every gay person came out today.

Things ARE much better today than 20 years ago. Why? Because more people started coming out. People learned that the "fags" they hate are their brothers, their sons, their uncles, their friends.

The closet is deadly, not just for those in it, but for all gays and lesbians.

Out 'em all.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:49 PM
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13. OK, you're gay.
Friend of a friend told me. It's true.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:51 PM
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15. yup...
it's true. Out and proud since 1979.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:56 PM
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19. Congrats.
Do you know or have you known anyone in the closet? I assume you've outed them for their own benefit...
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:01 PM
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23. Nope
but I have consistently counseled them to come out themselves.

But I would have no hesitation outing a guy who has choisen to whore himself for a right-wing pimp like Murdoch.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:04 PM
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:11 PM
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29. Ah
the sig-line insult. Congratulations, only a few dozen people before you have made that obvious joke. You should be proud. But if you'll read the whole thing, you'll see it applies to you as well as me.

"Outing" generally refers to outing people in the public eye. The discussions here have all focused on outing famous people. There is benefit to doing that. I believe they should be outed, and as I said, I consistently counsel non-famous personal acquaintances to come out themselves.

Sorry we couldn't discuss the topic without it devolving into personal attacks.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:20 PM
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30. Obviously, you missed Oprah today.
George Michael was on for the full hour. Thank goodness he came out on his own volition, and....oh.

Never mind.

Bottom line, the choice is not yours to make -- and "counseling" them on their choice assumes they are fools who have not already considered it themselves and the unfortunate consequences that come along with it.

I never said I was talking out of my ass -- you did. It's not an insult if you admit to it first.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:37 PM
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38. George Michael was in the closet?
WHY?

Was anyone fooled?

Anyone?
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Baltimoreboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:42 PM
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41. Because he CHOSE to be in there
It was up to him. Not anyone else.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:43 PM
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43. Anyone else you suspect?
C'mon, let it all out. I'm sure Dennis Kucinich would be proud.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:35 PM
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45. Are you gay? Why not tell us your little story.
"Bottom line, the choice is not yours to make -- and "counseling" them on their choice assumes they are fools who have not already considered it themselves and the unfortunate consequences that come along with it."

Care to elaborate a bit on the "unfortunate consequences?"
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:54 PM
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48. No, I'm not.
But if you don't think there are "unfortunate consequences" to being gay in America, your head is in the sand.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:04 PM
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25. You want to go there? Let me know, I will be happy to escort you.
In a non-sexual way of course.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:49 PM
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14. I like the way you think.
:loveya:
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:28 PM
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34. The failure of the categorical imperative
re: The world would be an infinitely better place for gays and lesbians if every gay person came out today.

Assuming that's true, that still doesn't give license for individual acts of outing.

(Perhaps it would be better if *everyone* voted for Ralph Nader, but that's a poor argument for voting for him.)
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Baltimoreboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:36 PM
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37. It's not YOUR right to out another
It's up to them only.

How dare you claim to know what another person's true sexuality is.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:42 PM
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42. Can you point to where it says that in the Constitution?
.
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Baltimoreboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:44 PM
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44. So you don't think the Constitution has a right to privacy?
I thought only the right argued that.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:53 PM
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47. Is that what you said?
I thought you said "It's not YOUR right to out another"
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:44 PM
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8. Who the F**K is Shepard Smith???????????
Am I missing out on some satire?????????
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:44 PM
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9. Maybe straight, DEFINITELY an asshole. n/t
n/t
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:45 PM
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10. Can I take this moment to ask what the fuck a "G BLOCK" is?
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:52 PM
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16. Something like
a G spot....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:47 PM
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:52 PM
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17. What does this have to do with the discussion?
Pedophiles are vile criminals. Gay people are not.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:58 PM
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20. Maybe he is, maybe not
Edited on Wed May-26-04 03:58 PM by salinen
don't care. But if he is, I'm gonna bet he's a bottom.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:00 PM
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21. Did they hang that twits butt
for hitting a pedestrian with his car? It had something to do with a female pol/reporter? standing next to a 'saved' parking spot and supposedly Sheppy hit/knocked down the women? Anything come of it?

He's a major jerk if that story is true.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:00 PM
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22. "Why make it sad
...to be gay?" - John Lennon. People who "out" others are confused about what liberation means. Why would anyone want to ape the ugly tactics of the far right?
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:02 PM
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24. Shepard telling the truth. You do know he works at Fox?
A respected choice....only for those who have the luxury of money and status, and being a hypocrite.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:05 PM
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27. why are you outing him as a straight?
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:09 PM
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28. Gees! Who cares??
He's the last person I'd get all worked up about.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:25 PM
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32. Shepard Smith is straight
on a path towards irrelevancy (when the right completely runs itself into the ground, and the media that worked as bushco propoganda begins to be recognized for what it really is.)

The rest, imo... also irrelevant.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:28 PM
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33. Sexuality SHOULD be irrelevant.
But as this discussion and the related ones have proven...it still isn't.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:31 PM
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35. Probably why I generally never read
these threads.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:37 PM
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46. if it's irrelevant, then why claim he's straight?
:shrug:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:33 PM
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36. Who is Shepard Smith and why do we care about his private life?
Unless he is someone who was particularly ugly in invading other people's privacy (such as a Clenis-head), I fail to see the DU obsession's point.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:39 PM
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40. He's a clenis head, apparently.
No shortage of those in the media.
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