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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:52 PM
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So what's the story on CAFTA?
It seems to me like another investor's wet dream--The White House 'fact' sheet on this mentions $8.8 billion exported to Central America in 2000, but we are talking investment dollars here for at least half of that, aren't we?
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:07 PM
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1. Helping Mexico in their race to the bottom.
Making the sweatshop sweatier, and the peons even more pee'd on.

There is nothing in this agreement to improve the jobs situation in America.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:12 PM
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3. México has NOTHING to do with CAFTA...
CAFTA is between the US and Central American countries. Not México.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:42 PM
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5. Are you suggesting CAFTA will have no effect on wages
in Mexico?
Reconsider-- It is going to screw Mexico hard. We have been as screwed as we can get, I hope.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:51 PM
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6. hmm, no, I don't think it will affect México much...
It will create problems in the agriculture sector in Central America, though... and it is forcing Central American countries to privatize and/or open markets that are currently protected.

But México is not involved in CAFTA... they will certainly feel some marginal effect, but it is minimal when compared to Central America.

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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:07 PM
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2. Let's put it in simpler terms...
Edited on Wed May-26-04 06:07 PM by physioex
NAFTA is to CAFTA as Coffee is to Cappuccino. It's the same thing multiplied by ten. A guy once told me he hated coffe but wanted to know about cappuccino. My response if you hate one you will hate the other 10x more...
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:18 PM
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4. I wouldn't say it is 10 times worse...
CAFTA is just slightly bigger than NAFTA in population terms, and its impact will probably be smaller in the US than in Central American countries.

The truth is this treaty only reinforces the iron curtain on Latin America.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 09:22 PM
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7. kick n/t
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:04 AM
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8. kick n/t
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:06 AM
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9. NAFTA, CAFTA
it's just gonna SHAFT ya....

:evilgrin:
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:37 AM
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10. CAFTA is very welcome news
Free trade with the U.S. is a great hope for Central America. Hopefully, the rest of the hemisphere will feel left out (of the rare/low/zero tariffs to sell goods into the largest economy in the world.) A Western Hemisphere free trade zone would be an enormous boost to the economies/progress of the Americas.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:42 AM
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11. I hope you are being sarcastic...
CAFTA will certainly help big companies in Central America (and the US). But not the small businesses a lot of people depend on.

Plus, most products from Central American countries already pay very low tariffs in the US because they are included in the Caribbean Basin Initiative.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:00 PM
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12. kick n/t
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