The newspaper published my LTTE...

...See the letter here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x52852

The paper edited out the sentence about "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" but the rest was intact. Would anyone like to see the Freeper mail I got in return?

I for one would love to see a sample of the freeper mail. Was any of it written in crayon, by chance?

I'm facinated by willfull ignorance, stupidity and nazi tendancies.

and yes, please post the response.

:toast:

Alan, I give you credit for having your e-mail address printed openly
in the Tennessean, that is about it. I suppose you wrote to the
Tennessean because you felt you had a good chance of having your "opinion"
printed in this most liberal of city newspapers. Remember, the Tennessean
is owned by Gannett Corp, an openly liberal, democratic backing news
organization. I suppose you would like for us to go back to a president
who had sex with someone other than his wife in "OUR HOUSE", not the
White House. On top of that, the good times that so many like to attribute
during the 90's was just a "drug-laden" haze as all the corporate
scandal was uncovered at the end of Mr. Clinton's so called good 8 years.
John Kerry on the other hand claims he served his country well and upon
his return from Vietnam became an outspoken critic. George W. Bush will
be our President for another 4 years simply because he is an honorable,
MORAL man. Unfortunately your hatred for what is good about this
President and our country is what makes you so bitter. Our President told us
in a speech 10 days after 9/11 that this war against evil would last
for years if not decades. So many forget that in this time of quick fix
mentality. I had a very good friend lose his life in WTC 1 on 9/11. I
trust that if you had a loved one lost on that day you would feel
differently about our present administration and what we are trying to do to
protect all of us here in the states. By the way, what you and the
liberal press describe as the Iraqi prison scandal must be 100 times worse
than the beheading of Nick Berg or the torture and mutilation of 4
security contractors the month before. Please . . . get a grip on reality
and realize that John Kerry as our President for the next 4 years will
just bring multiple 9/11's upon us because of the Democratic cowardice
that pervades our society.

Funny thing is, as Bush's poll number fall, so do John Kerry's!

Kerry still has only a 5-6 point lead over Bush, so as Bush loses votes,
they must elect not to vote rather than vote for Kerry!

To bad the Democrats continually fail to select a winnable candidate!

a bit by the desperate Repubs where I am (TX). In other words, they recognize the shrubbie's got a bit of a problem. But they delude themselves that "it's OK, because no one likes Kerry either".

...let me know if I should.

How quickly Dems forget what their own party said:

If you really believe that President BUSH lied - - THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ AND HE TOOK US TO WAR SOLELY FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES --then read this and, if you are the fair minded person that I believe you to be--, PASS IT ON TO YOUR ENTIRE E-MAIL LIST.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999


"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue a pace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002






"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."


Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002





"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998.


We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.


Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002





"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated
the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."


Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."


Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological


weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.


He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002





"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime . He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan.23.2003

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

Bush ignoring the Geneva Convention? Did you see him in those pictures?

The president's numbers are up because the majority of the people beleive in this man and the good that he is trying to accomplish. Failings during the invasion? Taking Iraq in less than 3 months. Failings?

You say that we are indifferent to the plight of others less fortunate than ourselves. Than what are we doing in Iraq. We're they not less fortunate than us? Did they not have the same freedoms we do? I guess the 300,000 muslims that Saddam killed were very fortunate.

What is that word you use OBFUSCATE.

Four more years.

wow! These letters are hilarous!

Bush bashers and the bias media are the reason President
Bush's poll numbers are down. He's had a solid 3 months
of nothing but being "beaten up on". Any imcumbent president
would sink in polls being "beaten up on" as he has.

How many different newspapers, internet sites and cable news services
to subscribe to? It sounds like you believe a lot of what you see and
read which is biased. The Washington Post and N. Y. Times have proved
to
be uncredible with evidence to show some of their reporters made up
stuff.
The new Pew report says that most media outlets are biased (read it).

Anyway, all these failings that you say about Bush. Where is the
concrete
evidence--that has been proven in a court of law? Remember in America
you
assume innocent until proven guilty. Do you believe in that kind of
justice?

Thanks for you listening to me. I bet you didn't vote for Bush in 2000
and
I bet you have always hated Bush!

Just what I was saying early about the bias and weak credibility
of papers like the NY Times. Please read today's article. They
are correcting themselves on a lot of different areas they went
wrong in Iraq reporting saying they couldn't verify information.

Thanks,

Write your book you fool.............

"It is God who judges; He brings down one, He exalts another."
Psalm 75:7



His numbers are not solely a result of the “hard core right wing”. There is no perfect leader. But it appears he trusts in the Lord who is the perfect leader and will one day rule all nations. “sit at my right hand until I (God speaking of Christ) make all your enemies a footstool for your feet”. Even the USA is a footstool for His feet and President Bush acknowledged such when he said in a speech recently that no nation will last forever…only His kingdom,



Until then pray for all leaders



By the way, Jesus had low poll numbers, too, but He is King regardless of the vote. What this country can ill afford is the continual decline in morality

...but because of the content I didn't want to number it on the list.

As a right winger on several issues including immigration,
the patriot act, record deficits, outsorucing, I can tell you --
many of us hate the litttle bastard as much as the democrats.

I read your letter to the editor and completely disagree
with
you statements and points, but it's America and your opinion. I don't
know
your background or history, what you have done to make this a better
country, but I can tell you that I grew up in a democratic household in
Tennessee, we are 90% Republican now. Living in Europe, California,
Washington DC, and NY I learned even more about why I'm not a democrat.
Most people that I know are about 70% Republican and 30% Dem's. Mostly
because of Abortion, Taxes, Strong Military Support, Anti-Gay marriage,
Pro
business. As for less fortunate, the people I know are cast into two
primary
categories: Giver's and Taker's. Most givers, without a doubt are
Republican. They care significantly about the plight of those less
fortunate. My two sons and son-in-law are all giver's and currently
serving
in the US Military. So when you write your words to the editor next
time or
cook that hamburger on Memorial Day remember you are free to do
anything or
write what you want because of someone else who is out their giving
everyday.

I LOVE THIS COME BACK!
> > Originator unknown;
> >
> > As some of you may know, one of my sons serves in
> > the military. He is
> > still stateside, here in California. He called me
> > yesterday to let me
> > know how warm and welcoming people were to him, and
> > his troops,
> > everywhere he goes, telling me how people shake
> > their hands, and thank
> > them for being willing to serve, and fight, for not
> > only our own
> > freedoms but so that others may have them also.
> >
> > But he also told me about an incident in the grocery
> > store he stopped at
> > yesterday, on his way home from the base. He said
> > that ahead of several
> > people in front of him stood a woman dressed in a
> > burkha. He said when
> > she got to the cashier she loudly remarked about the
> > US flag lapel pin
> > the cashier wore on her smock.
> >
> > The cashier reached up and touched the pin, and said
> > proudly, "yes, I
> > always wear it and I probably always will."
> >
> > The woman in the burkha then asked the cashier when
> > she was going to
> > stop bombing her countrymen, explaining that she was
> > Iraqi.
> >
> > A gentleman standing behind my son stepped forward,
> > putting his arm
> > around my son's shoulders, and nodding towards my
> > son, said in a calm
> > and gentle voice to the Iraqi woman: "Lady, hundreds
> > of thousands of men
> > and women like this young man have fought and died
> > so that YOU could
> > stand here, in MY country and accuse a check-out
> > cashier of bombing YOUR
> > countrymen. It is my belief that had you been this
> > outspoken in YOUR
> > own country, we wouldn't need to be there today.
> > But, hey, if you have
> > now learned how to speak out so loudly and clearly,
> > I'll gladly buy you
> > a ticket and pay your way back to Iraq so you can
> > straighten out the
> > mess in YOUR country that you are obviously here in
> > MY country to
> > avoid."
> >
> > Everyone within hearing distance cheered.
> >
> > Pass it on...

“Obfuscate” is lovely word that might be meaningful if backed up by an
iota of fact.

As a matter of fact – Bush did not ignore the Geneva Convention but has
applied those standards to all who are covered in the Geneva Convention
and many who are not. The Geneva Convention covers military combatants.
You might want to check your facts – unless you want to live with lies.

Let me list some of the Bush accomplishments:

1. We have brought human rights to 50,000,000 human beings for the
first time in their lives – ending two terrorist regimes by bringing down
the Taliban and Saddam Hussein – closing the terrorist training camps –
and enforcing UN Resolution 688 which dealt with human rights in Iraq –
UN Resolution 687 and 1373 which dealt with Iraq’s support of
international terrorism, and multiple UN Resolutions dealing with Iraq’s WMD
programs. Every school in Iraq is operating, 1500 schools have been
refurbished by the US, 43 Universities and Technical schools are operating,
400 courts are functioning, 22,000,000 vaccinations have been provided
and tons of medical supplies are coming in each month. Sovereignty will
be turned over next month and elections held early in 2005. Afghanistan
has a Constitution – and little girls have the right to go to school
rather than being executed in soccer fields before the cheering crowds of
Taliban.

2. US efforts have led India and Pakistan away from the brink of war –
brought North Korea to a multilateral bargaining table – forced Libya
to surrender its WMD and terrorist ambitions – encouraged Iran to allow
UN inspections and sparked the talk of reform throughout the middle
east.

3. The Bush Administration has also enacted an historic arms reduction
agreement with the Russians and overseen an historic expansion of NATO.
Because of US intervention the bloody civil war in Sudan is nearing a
peaceful settlement, and the President has committed more resources than
any President or nation to fight Aids in Africa.

On the domestic front the President:

1. Enacted the most expansive reform and biggest increase in federal
spending for public education in the history of the US, more than 60%
more than Clinton including a 50%+ increase for Title I schools adding
multi-billions for students most in need…bringing hundreds of millions of
additional dollars into Tennessee schools.

3. Enacted the Medicare Reform and Prescription Drug Bill, a
$500,000,000,000 increase in healthcare benefits for 40 million Americans…the
biggest healthcare entitlement in two generations.

4. Providing tax relief and a virtual pay raise for 109,000,000
American, including a 96% tax cut for a family of four making
$40,000….10,000,000 low income workers got a 100% cut… and the rich 10%...ending up
paying a larger portion of our FIT burden than before. Families with
children more than doubled their child care credit and the marriage penalty
was eliminated.

5. Bush enacted the toughest business regulations since FDR and
vigorously prosecuted corporate crime, most of which happened in the 1990s.
Federal gun prosecutions are up 58%. Gun crime is down as is crime in
general. Bush enacted Election Reform, Campaign Finance Reform, and the
biggest reorganization of government in American history with the
Department of Homeland Security.

6. Bush leads the strongest and fastest growing economy in the
industrialized world - Home ownership in America is at an all time high –
housing starts are at an all time high – wages for working people are up –
inflation is low – interest rates are low – more people are working in
America than at any time in our history – the economy growing faster
than any economy in the industrialized world – the stock market is up 30%
in the last year – and unemployment is at a rate lower than the average
for the last 30 years.

7. Bush has committed more resources to fight AIDS than any President
in history as well as increasing funding for the homeless and low cost
housing…and enacting a program to encourage minority home ownership.
Bush is also the first President to issue an executive order banning
racial profiling and has appointed the most ethnically diverse cabinet in
American history.

Facts –

his signature

"After the Iraqi prison scandal brought to us by Bush's ignoring of the Geneva Conventions"

This statement is so illogical I want to laugh.

Your claim is a cause/effect statement. You're saying: " Bush ignored the Geneva Convention, therefore, low ranking soldiers mistreated Iraqi prisoners." Hilarious! That makes loads of sense.

Analogy: I insult a customer at my place of employment, but it's my boss's fault because he supposedly ignored the rule, "The customer is always right." It still makes no sense.

Do you want to know the funniest part of this whole 'scandal?' The people of the Arab world have a hard time understanding what the fuss is all about. Treating prisoners in this manner is the norm in their countries.

Obviously you haven't travelled a great deal. The mistake with the prisoners was that they were prisoners, and not dead. I service 21 years in the military and am a registered Democrat who was unsure to to vote for this time but, after reading your letter I decided on Bush. Any person using our peril to gain political advantage is more vile that anything anyone did in that prison. Damnit our country needs unity til AFTER this war. Gee whiz, how sad.

same author as #12, I think maybe he forgot he had written

I usually do not respond to folk who know so little about the subject matter on which they choose to write. I am a 70 year old voting Democrat (44 voting years) and will vote for Mr. Bush this time. Radical? Hardly, tho I will admit to being the last Conservative Democrat and I detest the things that have happened to my party to negate the qualities that attracted me in the first place. Talk about radicals. Jesse Jackson, NOW, NAMBLA (maybe you should look that up), etc. I was at the last convetion in San Diego (I donated at the door to get in) and was so ashamed when 6 Boy Scouts, ranging from 13 to 17 years old were brought on stage AND THE CONVENTION MEMBERS STOOD AND BOOED THEM. BOY SCOUTS FOR GOODNESS SAKES. I left the convention then, went to Lindberg Field and caught the earliest flight home. I felt so bad for those kids, it was shameful. Radical? You betcha. Check that out if you doubt me, and ANYONE, REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT who would use the war where our young are being killed to gain political advantage is far more repulsive than those who committed atrocities on prisoners. Again, I will vote for the underdog and just to let you know how many more of my club members feel, at a show of hands vote the other night in one of my clubs, 47 members agreed to vote for Bush 12 for Kerry. We are all registered Democrats but will take the undedog role. You know nothing of war. Our combined war time in my three service clubs approach 120 combat years. Ciao

I am tired of Republicans being portrayed as “indifferent to the plight of others less fortunate than themselves” As a Republican I know from experience, that is not true. I am also tired of hearing Al Gore and Teddy Kennedy ranting and raving criticizing President Bush with their lies. I am embarrassed that Al Gore is from Tennessee.



Generally speaking it has been my experience that Republicans are just as involved, if not more so, as Democrats in projects to help those less fortunate either personally or through charitable programs. Democrats typically want suppress the poor and keep them dependent upon the government by creating more federal programs. Republicans prefer to help the poor help themselves and, when necessary, to allow churches and private charitable organizations help those less fortunate.



The Iraqi people were, prior to Saddam’s fall, less fortunate than anyone in this country. Saddam murdered and maimed over 300,000 of his own people often using weapons of mass destruction. He also put his own need for palaces and weapons before the needs of his starving people. What about their plight? If the many good stories like those found in Tim Chavez’s article today were publicized to the extent those few cases of prison abuse were there might be a different attitude concerning our mission over there. Without Republican leadership, these people would still be suppressed and Saddam would still be amassing his weapons.



You have obviously been brainwashed by those who put politics above the best interests of our country.