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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 03:22 PM
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Daily Kos - Email and Call CNN for this BS about Kerry and Al Qaeda
Edited on Fri May-28-04 03:26 PM by rmpalmer
http://www.dailykos.com/

Call CNN


Outrage:


ARENA: Neither John Kerry nor the president has said troops pulled out of Iraq any time soon. But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.

BEN VENZKE, INTELCENTER: Al Qaeda feels that Bush is, even despite casualties, right or wrong for staying there is going to stay much longer than possibly what they might hope a Democratic administration would.

There you go. We're fighting al Qaeda in Iraq and they think John Kerry is a wimp.

Atlanta:
404-827-1500

Washington:
202-898-7900

You can communicate your thoughts to Ms. Arena personally at: kelli.arena@turner.com
You can now send your emails to Eason Jordan at Eason.Jordan@turner.com. He's CNN's chief news executive.

This isn't 2000. We're not going to take this shit lying down.
Kelli Arena, by the way, is CNN's correspondent at the Justice Department. So who do you think her "speculation" comes from? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

Here's mine - cc'ed Jordan.

Dear Ms. Arena

This is the biggest load of BS! I'm tired of "journalists" like yourself labeling Democratic candidates as wimps and speculating how the enemies of the U.S. view a candidate for office.

I refer to this exchange.

Kelli ARENA: Neither John Kerry nor the president has said troops pulled out of Iraq any time soon. But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.

BEN VENZKE, INTELCENTER: Al Qaeda feels that Bush is, even despite casualties, right or wrong for staying there is going to stay much longer than possibly what they might hope a Democratic administration would.


How the hell do you know that John Kerry would make Al Qaeda feel they were winning? In fact I think George Bush and Karl Rove are far more likely to pull the troops out of Iraq far quicker in the name of their own political survival than John Kerry.

But then if journalists like yourself hadn't helped George Bush win the White House we may have had a president who wouldn't have taken his eye off the war with Al Qaeda by foolishly getting in to the quagmire of Iraq.

Why don't you stick to reporting the facts and quit speculating about the resolve of John Kerry.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 03:25 PM
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1. Does anyone edit what these fools are going to say?
That is unbelievable!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 03:31 PM
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2. "Some Speculation that AQ Believes..."
Edited on Fri May-28-04 03:31 PM by Beetwasher
Gotta love that line.

and also "AQ feels that...blah blah..."

They just say that without telling you who exactly is speculating or how they know what AQ feels. Someone (think Karl Rove) just made that up and told the idiot to parrot it.

There's also some speculation that Jesus Christ believes Bush is the anti-christ.

Jesus Christ feels that Bush's stupidity and ignorance is going to lead to the end of the world.

The bottom line is it's actually MORE plausible that AQ WANTS THE US IN IRAQ FOREVER. Why would they want us to leave? Iraq is their best recruitment and live training ground EVER. New recruits get to cut their teeth killing US soldiers and the cream of the crop is skimmed out and sent on missions elsewhere. AQ LOVES Bush. They've never had a better recruiter. How's that for speculation!
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Lin Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 03:45 PM
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3. Here's Mine..... (and DO the tv-media -esp FOX ANSWER to a-n-y-b-o-d-y?
Edited on Fri May-28-04 03:47 PM by Lin
kelli.arena@turner.com Subject: How DO you sleep?
Sent & signed my full name, I am SO SICK of being this angry.
----------------------------
<<If I wrote you with the force of all the anger I feel about what I've been seeing/hearing on CNN re: presidential campaign lately, meaning the LOW level of the "discourse" I KNOW I'd never receive and answer to this question, so I'll restrain myself. Do YOU, or anyone there feel the GRAVITY of this election?

PLEASE please, answer us this, _how_ can you put forth the insinuation that a vote for John Kerry is a "vote" for Al Quaeda??? Do you DO THIS in good conscience? If YOU as a member of tv "media" can get past the BBQ poll, I ask this, WHO would YOU, Kelli Arena, rather be IN A FOX hole with???

I'm appalled, I expect this from Fox News Bush whore, I PRAY I don't have to endure it from CNN, and YOU!>>>

Answer this, If you can.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:04 PM
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4. Here's what I wrote:
Dear Mr Eason,

I read that Kelli Arena reported that AlQaeda would prefer the John Kerry being elected. If someone at CNN knows this for a fact and has had some sort of communication with this terrorist group why don't you notify this administration? I assume that you had no communication with them but rather with your leaders in the White House from whom you appear to take your orders.

This administration has been a gift to AlQaeda. They have been their best recruiting tool ever and have allowed them to accomplish what they never could have on their own. We have left Saudi Arabia because we were told to, we have gotten rid of Sadaam for them and gave them a new playground in Iraq. I think they are most satisfied with the administration.

Will her statements be clarified and another view given? I doubt it but it would be nice to be pleasantly surprised.

I turned off CNN, after many years of watching, because of your bias toward reporting that puts this administration only in the best of light while taking every instance to obviously or subtly putting down any opposition. Looks like I won't be back any time soon. It is so sad that your once honest and vigorous reporting has become such a sham. It's a disservice to your listeners and in the long run to yourselves that you try to imitate other networks
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:47 PM
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13. Be careful what you wish for!
"Will her statements be clarified and another view given? I doubt it but it would be nice to be pleasantly surprised."

They'll trot out Lieberman for the "other view". :puke:
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:04 PM
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5. Sent
Also contacted FAIR (fair@fair.org).

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:11 PM
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6. :D And here's mine!
Edited on Fri May-28-04 04:12 PM by Career Prole
ARENA: Neither John Kerry nor the president has said troops pulled out of Iraq any time soon. But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.

Speculation by whom, Ms. Arena? I demand in the interests of unbiased journalism that you name the source of this “speculation” so that we may better weigh its value.
Your network likewise once aired “speculation” on the threat posed to the U.S. by Iraq, and ignored the speculation that there was no threat. Thousands upon thousands have died as a result of irresponsible and biased reporting. Ask Judith Miller if you don’t believe me.
Now you make this vague reference to “speculation” and drop a charge like that on Senator Kerry? No way, lady…not again.
Name your source! If not then please get back in front of the camera and tell the nation that a far greater amount of speculation exists that George Bush is naught but an ignorant stooge whose only purpose was to serve as the Trojan horse which ferried the neocons into the White House and the Pentagon, and that the insufferable pride and vanity which is the hallmark of just about every stupid spoiled rich kid has him convinced that he’s doing a great job as president even as he destroys this country from inside the White House. That’s why al Qaeda likes Bush, Ms. Arena!


Edited to get my name off the bottom! :)
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:15 PM
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7. "Al Qaeda feels that Bush is"
How the hell does this guy know what Al Qaeda thinks?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:29 PM
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8. Here's mine
Full Disclosure

Don't you think that might be useful when you report such idiotic things as "But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House." Do you reporters just FORGET the internet is out here and we can factcheck ourselves?

Who is Ben Venzke?

He owns both the Intel Center and Tempest Publishing.

How's Tempest Publishing doing?

With its books now outselling Harry Potter on Amazon, Tempest sales for the first three weeks after the attack added up to more than 50% of its sales for all of last year. Profits are expected to triple.

http://www.salientstills.com/news/news_12-01_FSB.html

Intel Center:

Our primary client base is comprised of military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the US and other allied countries around the world. (And corporations) To whom he sells:

Intelligence Feeds, Books, DVDs, CD-ROMs, Services, etc.

Who has an interest in keeping the highest possible threat of terrorism in the public mind? Ben Venzke.

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:44 PM
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12. Love it!
:yourock: :toast:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:49 PM
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14. Wow, well done!!!
*
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Lin Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:23 PM
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17. I shrivel before you, hats off! well done! Thanks DUers...!
often, when I hit rock bottom with politics, media coverage of it in particular, I'm restored by the good efforts of ppl here THANK YOU!

Dems kick @SS :kick:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:32 PM
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9. On the Progress Report today....here's mine:
Ms. Arena-

Did I hear this right? "There is speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if Jhn Kerry is in the White House". Did you really say that? How about sharing, with the more than 50% of the electorate who believe George Bush is an incompetent fraud, where you got the cites to justify this statement. Did your White House sources tell you that Kelli? What makes you think that John Kerry, a decorated man who knows war 1st hand, would go easier on al Qaeda than this administration? What bunch of AWOL chickenhawks are in control of US foreign policy? What administration vacationed or campaigned for 40% of their time prior to 9/11, disregarding all the signals that AQ was going to attack us? What administration had 3,000 innocent Americans die in the worst terrorist attack this country has ever seen? What administration has spent $200BB and 800 American lives NOT fighting the source of terror? Which candidate has an intimate business relationship with the bin Laden family? Clue, Ms. Arena…..it is NOT John Kerry.

A little critical thinking would help you avoid the rather ignorant and misleading statements such as the above. It's a damn sad day for this country when newsreaders are planting subconscious, pro-Republican talking points in the minds of the TV viewer. CNN/Fox/MSNBC have become an upscale versions of Pravda….certainly more stylistic, but no less dangerous in their collective mouthing of the Party line.

I won't hold my breath waiting for you and your pro-war corporate media channel to offer all Democrats an apology for this egregious insult.

Thanks….for nothing.

OAITW



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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:39 PM
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10. Thanks for the access link. Done.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:41 PM
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11. Thanks for the heads up.
Here's my email to Kelli Arena:

"I take great offense - in fact, I am outraged - at this bit of manure you
attempted to feed the American public as credible journalism:

"But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House."

WHO SPECULATES, Ms. Arena?? WHO KNOWS what al Qaeda BELIEVES, Ms. Arena??

I believe that you are irresponsible in making this unsupported and false statement and I speculate that your listening audience (what will be left of them, anyway) now understands that CNN is going to run with the GOP's "a vote for Kerry is a vote for terrorists" meme. Just how low can you go?"
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 04:51 PM
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15. I wrote to both of them. comments?
Al Qaeda wants Kerry to win?

Why is this "speculation" being reported as fact, and where did it come from in the first place? Logic would point to Mr Bush, not John Kerry, being better for the goals of Al Qaeda. Iraq went from having no ties to terrorism to being filled with terrorists due to Mr. Bush's war. The occupation of a middle eastern country (and especially the images resulting from this occupation) have served as a major recruiting tool for terrorists wishing to do harm to the US. Bush has let the security of ports, trains, chemical and nuclear plants inside the United States remain weak, instead using the resources to fight the Iraq war. George Bush has not found Osama bin Laden (not to mention that the Bush family has close ties with the bin Laden family). Last but not least, the terrorists want to be waging a holy war against us, and it's much easier to do so when our leader is a fundamental evangelical Christian.

I remember when CNN was the most trusted name in news. Recently, however, CNN has just done a bad job of trying to be Fox News.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 05:48 PM
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16. done. thanks.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:36 PM
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18. Speculation is wrong--Bin Laden has already endorsed Bush.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:43 PM
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19. I also wrote to BenVenzke
Venzke's email is bvenzke@intelcenter.com

I'd like to know how he knows what Al Qaeda "feels."
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