stock up on little american flags, we're gonna get hit again, hard

that's what asskkkroft said, we're gonna get hit by al qaeda, HARD.
he paused, and then emphasized the word 'hard'. he knows what's coming, we don't.

some here suggest the terror warnings are total bullshit, and they may be right. i sometimes like to remind everyone that i too can be, and have been, and will again be wrong, but i suspect that the second attack is as inevitable as old faithful. i'm only going by the constant official reminders that at least a dozen top bush officials have made. it's inevitable.

no surprise there, how much more could we possibly have pissed off the arab world? we've absolutely guaranteed retaliatory strikes, with our invasion and torture and photo fest.

they in the white house see us all as silly, easily manipulated fools. they see how we ate it up like candy, the 9-11 attacks. how we were fooled! all of us. feeling teary eyed at flags, weeping during the national anthem at a stupid baseball game, getting into arguments about who is the most patriotic, and who is a traitor.

they think that it will work again. no shit, that's how deluded they are, and that's how stupid they think we ALL are. but not all of us are so stupid, some of us see through this insanity. but that won't stop this impending attack that surely is coming.

i hope i am wrong, as i have been on many things, many times. i really really hope i'm wrong, but look at the tea leaves folks. read between the lines, check out the nuance, for lack of a better term. they have many big things planned for our nation in the months preceding the election. like andy rooney said, these are america's darkest times.

I took Asskkkroft's pronouncement more as a threat than a warning. He may not have said it, but here's what I heard, "If bush*s poll numbers continue to fall, we will hit you and we will hit you HARD!"

And this is what it has come to -- the Mob sidles into your restaurant (Bush becomes president), tells you that you need "protection," (look at 9/11) you get scared and pay up for a while ( cry, stock up on flag decals, rally round the prez), but then you get outraged at being fucked over by outrageous protection payments (tax $$ to corps and rich, freedoms down the tubes, gas prices, bad economy), and start to get uppity (not falling for terror alerts, increasing criticism of the admin, dropping poll numbers), soooooo. . .

The big boss sends the enforcers out. Asscroft and Mueller first issue the veiled warning (pay up, or we break-a you knees).

If we don't heed it, our knees get broken.

It's a classic protection racket.

What kills me is all the dopes out there who have done nothing with their lives but watch movies and TV, and they STILL can't recognize a protection racket when they see one.

It looks like major parts of the American establishment - plus everyone around the world - wants this regime gone. I'm not sure if the Bush regime can hold onto power now.

Unless they really have infiltrated NSA and DIA, and really are planning on mass detention of US citizens. I don't think they can pull it off but they've surprised us before.

Another terrorist attack would ruin them, unless they went all out.

Great analogy.

It would be good for their bidness of gun running and election stealing! We should say to Hell with fair elections in Iraq, until we learn how to have a fair election here! I think that if Bush cheats again the war will come home to roost! The American people are about as sick of all the BUSHIT as Al Gore IMHO!

EDIT}}}The Shei'ite will hit the fan if Bush steals another election!

my giant flag trumps your terrorist flag, osama loving insurgent!

and EAT that giant flag like I CAN MINE!



Terror-craving pseudopatriot!

Anyway, yeah - I can just picture Rove's little PowerPoint presentation on how to "win big on a terror attack."

get it.....dam flag......?.....i crack me up

See, I just don't think they can spin another successful act of domestic terrorism to bush's lasting advantage. It would point to failure of his policies, rather than success. But a failed attack, what does that do?

It says, "the Patriot Act was a good thing."

It says, "the president's policies are working."

It says, "give up your freedoms, and the GOP will protect you."

A successful attack requires both clever terrorists and -- at this point -- willful negligence on the part of intelligence and law enforcement. But a failed attack, what does that require? A couple patsies to throw in jail -- incommunicado, of course, and no contact with lawyers, as the new laws permit. Just look at how dense our population is, the majority will believe any brownish person accused of a crime is guilty by default. And if they're muslims, well, that's a double whammy right there. Just find a handful of Arab immigrants, accuse them of planning an attack, lock them away for a couple months in Gitmo and then deport them after the election. This can be done any number of times between now and November.

It's quick, it's easy, and if I were an unscrupulous republican looking for a bump in the polls... well, if I can figure this out, I'm sure Aschkroft, Rove and Cheney are way ahead of me on this one.

and we've all thought about it a lot here. and it's within the realm of bushco to pull it off i suppose. but that too becomes boring and ineffective after a while.

besides, we've all predicted that a foiled attack scenario is probably in bushco's quill. but they've played that hand several times already, arresting suspicious arabs around the world and bragging about it. people will become bored with it. and they'll need to be reminded again, with horror upon horror.

you and i cannot second guess these madmen, but we do know that they are insane. we are all just speculating, what else can we do?

i hope you are right, the foiled attack scenario is less bloody as propaganda, but these people have showed us that they have no human souls.

A planned series of attacks that were mostly foiled and yet killed a handfull of people and scared millions would possibly be the most politically advantageous scenario for the administration.

It would say "Our current system is working yet we need to do more".

It would affirm the message they are trying to sell.

At this point, any country who makes those flags has a vested interest in our misfortune. I'm just sayin'...

sick of this shit and vote the scoundrels out assuming the election was held

There is a story over in LBN, the FBI issues a warning and then retracts it, whats up with that? Do these keystone cops know what they are doing? You could argue that no they certainly didnt the first time.

I think these warnings may be a ploy and a bit of CYA.

1. Trying to scare people into voting for Shrub
2. If an attack occurs before the election, they can say, "we told you so"
3. If an attack occurs after the reselection of shrub, they can say "we told you so"
4. or a foiled attack as Organism describes above
5. If an attack occurs after Kerry is in the WH, there will be an even bigger "we told you so"

One could also say with all the chicken littles running around screaming the sky is about to fall, that the terrorists dont even have to lift a finger to threaten us.

I myself think the terrorists are patient and slow, there will be an attack in the US, but not for years. There will more likely be an attack elsewhere, London or Mexico City, sooner than that.

seems very plausible too. others have brought this up too. and it's extremely possible. i put NOTHING past these maniacs.

but also as you point out, ashcrock seemed so certain.

If nothing happens can we go back to him and say: WTH were you talkin' about with that "hit us hard" crap, bub?

and he'll be parroting "SQUAWWK! Patriot act works!"

Two truck bombs take out Independence Hall and kill maybe a hundred people. The attack is highly symbolic, as the "terra-ists" have struck at an icon of America--and the bu$histas send a message to Pennsylvania: this is what happens when a state goes Blue.

:freak:
dbt

At this point I wouldn't put anything past them. I'm ordering a nice all-season wardrobe of tinfoil hats...however...at this point they'd never get away with it, would they? One department can't seem to do anything without another department stepping all over it. The ship of state has more leaks than the Titanic after it met up with the iceberg. Everyone is investigating everyone. There's a Deep Throat in every dark corner. Or at least that's the way it seems. I don't see how anybody can hope to get away with anything big enough to require coordination and cooperation among departments.

little flags printed on them?

how to determine if a terralert is going to be issued:
check for each of the occurances below and add up the points

4 points: bush*'s numbers are in the toilet

3 points: bush*-related scandal or other outrage is dominating the news cycles

2 points: bush* Inc. needs some air time to remind people to be
afraid

1 point: a major holiday is coming up

SCORECARD:

1-3 points: low probability of terralert
4-5 points: medium probability of terralert
5-7 points: high probability of terralert
8-10 points: guranteed slam-dunk terralert

Bushco wants UK to extradite him even though
his so- called crimes weren't commited in the US and
the evidence is slim at best. He supplied cells phones to terrorists? Still, I heard on news caster call
him "the bin Laden of England."

that Abu Hamza al-Masri is the main english speaking recruiter that al-qada has and is not someone who should be let to run free. plus he should die for just being so fugly.

I think obl has really won HIS war. He has accomplished what he set out to do! he's doin a high five right now!

foiled and successful attacks is my guess. One of each would do, so long as each one is sufficiently high profile.

If finally occurred to me the other day that the only reason not to find an excuse to cancel the election in November is that so many other offices (all of House, third of Senate, many, many state and local ones)are at stake. But the right kind of terror alert election day itself, just enough disruption in what would otherwise be "normal" voting patterns, coupled with just the right number of electronic voting machines fixed to give the desired results (and no paper trail, of course) and all Bush has to do is come up with the right number of electoral votes to stay in office. I kind of doubt they'd try a Supreme Court ploy again.

I am never forgetting some truly odd results in 2002, most notably Max Cleland's completely inexplicable loss.

"terrarists" are planning an attack against us.

Despite two and a half years, we have no real increase in security - at the same time, we have more enemies, and they're more motivated.

Our borders are permeable, and the opportunities for mischief numerous. Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't already been hit.

We can joke about the flag waving, but I wonder what else we can do at such a time. Seriously.

Toronto Citizens Inquiry into 9/11, spoke about the indicators of the coming attack and the eventuality of martial law. He says the window of opportunity for the cabal opens this weekend, and the mechanism will likely be WMD, and that a Canadian city must be considered as on the target list.