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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 01:49 PM Original message |
Political Correctness vs. The strength and security to joke on each other |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't know |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It was crude |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. "Hey jiggles, pack that gorgeous butt in here.... |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. I suggest you find a dictionary and look up "misandry." |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Live and let live friend, there are plenty of funny things in this world. |
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ColdWarZoomie (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Hmmmm |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. It's not a free speech issue |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. You're back? |
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ColdWarZoomie (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
59. Whoa! |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. Sadly, 1st amendment is void here of all places. 'Freedom from offense'?!! |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. That's bullshit too |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. I think I agree with you, E. See my post #38 about working without offense |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Male-bashing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. Deleted message |
bratcatinok (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
90. Whoa! |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Hey! You're not allowed to believe that women can be sexist, too. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. No, that's not true at all. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. Hi JohnOneillsMemory. If I may. I'd like to try to address something. |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. And again, this is where context comes into play |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Okay. If you are white, and I'm guessing you are, |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I'm a mulatto, but, and I can't stress this enough, *context matters* n/t |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. okay..dummy me time |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:34 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Mixed black and white heritige... |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Fine. You're a mulatto. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:44 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Yeah, but you wouldn't make a playful sexist joke |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. I'll let you write my opinion for this one :) ((n/t)) |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. Wow. Look at what you both wrote about respecting men. READ CAREFULLY. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. First off, I'm not "preaching" to anyone. |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. I agree with your perception of the c-word. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Yeah, it's a terrible word |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. "Insulting me is more insulting than insulting you" ? What does this mean? |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. No, I can't. |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. Just think about how often you hear each term. |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. Good natured joking is something like |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. If you're referring to the deleted post #23 in the link above, I disagree |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You should put in your post " in my opinion" |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder, not the writer. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. That is only your opinion. And I take it you DO NOT bleed. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. A lot of people seem to disagree with you, Rationality, on |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
115. Less evolved? |
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Senior citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. Good 'ol Iggy |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I'd rather people did that than complain so frequently and openly |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. We're in complete agreement! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Deleted message |
HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Again...more judgements |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. It's actually called social analysis. n/t |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. If you're an analyst, you should be fired ((n/t)) |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Yes, done quite with stellar accuracy - a one post judgement |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Is Nightrain not male? |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Yes dear, I am guilty of that crime against humanity. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. No, I would have - but I'm on dial-up at the moment |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
75. Deleted message |
Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Oh, I see. Because you've been a victim of classism |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. What sexist comment was made? |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. Who knows what she meant? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Well, you know |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #93 |
104. Now we've moved to ridicule -- one of the classic responses |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Next is statement of fact |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:07 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. That's their problem, not mine |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. Ridcule? |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:12 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. Oh, good grief |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. You won't be able to help yourself or anyone |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:37 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. And because you've been a victim of sexism, it makes your misandry OK? |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #89 |
123. It's really more anger at sexism than misandry -- |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. Bah |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Eloriel, you've hit it on the head, once again. |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. You should read her more carefully |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Oh I read her. Loud and clear. |
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KC21304 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. That is not true and uncalled for. |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
72. What in my retort was "uncalled for?" Care to explain? ((n/t)) |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. I understand, boy howdy, how WELL I understand |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Deleted message |
Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Wow... you know everything do you? |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. In fact, you are wrong about tennis |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Yeah, you're right... I was going on old information, I guess |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Eh?? |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Not that I can think of either... but you just reminded me |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. That's a differnet matter entirely |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. I'm not really arguing it at this point either |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Sorry, the only one here who is offensively hijacking a thread is you. |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Funny this, I posted the same outraged points to A WOMAN on this site. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
112. I know exactly what you mean. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. Who are we to judge what is good natured? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Deleted message |
JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
69. Hey, E. I think your point about public or private words and possible harm |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
116. Hey, "irregardless" you just posted a great point |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
18. the funny thing is that "PC" was sort of an in-joke on the left. |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
20. I think you are profoundly wrong |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Well, as long as he's "Profound" |
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Senior citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. You are correct |
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drdigi420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
124. Will it make everyone feel better if I refer to mean women as... |
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PittPoliSci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
27. ignore... |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. As I said to Senior Citizen, I think that's a better idea ((n/t)) |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
40. There's a difference between a jackass and someone who hates <group> |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So, how do you define a misogynist? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Me- scared of women |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Oh HEyHEY! |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. hehe |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. A toast right back at ya! |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Someone who genuinely hates women |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I agree. It is a pattern of behavior. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. OK |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Got ya. |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Good point, but also... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. In that case |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
57. Some people are always looking for excuses to tongue-lash other people ... |
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ColdWarZoomie (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Great Brubeck Tune... |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
98. How can you say that? It was recorded by white males! |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
71. Oh, there's another one I forgot |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. Yeah, but nothing wrong with trying to be the victim, eh? ((n/t)) |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
100. give it a rest. please. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
70. It's Always Fun til Someone Gets Their Eye Poked Out |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. "Arguments are to be avoided... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. OOOOO - get your flame suit on buddy! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #103 |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. I have no empathy for those who wish to nail themselves to a cross |
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kaitykaity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. That's only your opinion. |
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Rationality (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. When did I call anyone names? I was just defending my right to do so n/t |
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kaitykaity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. "rabid feminists" is name-calling. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-04 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
126. Sexism is the last acceptable form of discrimination |
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127. I'm locking this |
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