Is the current global conflict a continuation of the same clash

Feanorcurufinwe

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Mon May-31-04 09:07 PM
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Poll question: Is the current global conflict a continuation of the same clash

of civilizations we saw manifested in the crusades?

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Bok_Tukalo

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Mon May-31-04 09:33 PM
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1. I'm not sure

Was the Crusades a resource war?

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kaitykaity

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Mon May-31-04 09:34 PM
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2. Good question.

Edited on Mon May-31-04 09:35 PM by kaitykaity

I answered "yes" before I remembered that back then nobody
knew that our oil was under their sand.

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JHBowden

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Mon May-31-04 09:36 PM
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3. No.

The problem isn't even with states, but with these fucked up terrorist organizations that operate anywhere.

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kaitykaity

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Mon May-31-04 09:39 PM
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4. And the US-backed strongmen that spawn

the terrorists, of course. Right?

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JHBowden

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Mon May-31-04 09:42 PM
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5. That, my friend, is false.

Hussein may have been a piece a shit, but he put the smackdown on the nutcase fundamentalists in his country. Contrary to Rummy & co, there were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded, but indeed they are there now.

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kaitykaity

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Mon May-31-04 09:45 PM
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6. Not just Iraq, though, right?

And we didn't back Saddam the past 12 years. How about
Saudi Arabia? Fifteen of the 19, all of that?

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JHBowden

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Mon May-31-04 09:48 PM
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7. Bush has lied about a lot of stuff over the last 3+ years.

Edited on Mon May-31-04 09:48 PM by JHBowden

Hussein was nasty. However, his secular government never supported the terrorists.

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kaitykaity

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Mon May-31-04 09:53 PM
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9. I didn't say he did.

In general terms, US-backed strongmen have spawned
terrorists all over the world. Terrorists don't just
spring up out of the ground. There's cause and effect
going on here.

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Aidoneus

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Mon May-31-04 09:49 PM
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8. In a way, yes.

The right side won then; may it do so again?

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