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IranianDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:37 PM Original message |
Kucinich is pro-life?---- ?????what???? |
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molly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Before he said he was running for president he was |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I don't trust people who switch their stance for convenience. |
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LouKYDem (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Actually... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
87. Part of the reason he started reconsidering his position was |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:22 AM Response to Reply #87 |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Everyone is pro-life |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
111. You couldn't be more correct! |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. He's got a long and ugly voting history |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. It was true... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Or says |
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IranianDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. How can you just "switch your stance"? |
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GOPisEvil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Well...switched position might be a little strong... |
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nayt (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. seriously |
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molly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. He did believe it was murder |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Shades of gray |
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redeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Very easy |
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IranianDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. O so that's how you do it! |
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roughsatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Some people do think abortion is a sin |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
113. Some People Do Think Homosexuality is a Sin As Well |
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roughsatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 03:07 PM Response to Reply #113 |
137. I do not even believe in the concept of sin |
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orangecoloredapple (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. How many times does this have to be said!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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cherryperry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Yes; why do so many DUers look |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. "personally" is not what the voting record says |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
89. He did NOT vote pro-life right up until he changed his position. |
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AnAmerican (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. Dennis believes abortion should be rare |
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orangecoloredapple (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. That is exactly right - |
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roughsatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Thank you for explaining that |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
13. His voting record on abortion is the same as Henry Hyde's |
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orangecoloredapple (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I do not agree with your statement |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Compare his voting record on abortion to Henry Hyde's |
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orangecoloredapple (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I guess I'm thinking of the big picture |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
82. Not true. Dennis Kucinich has abstained from voting on abortion |
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AnAmerican (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Wrong |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I don't trust his change of stance at all |
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AnAmerican (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. That is your right |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
51. Then Walt please read this & my hastily written & pasted post 36 |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I can't trust a word he says now about abortion |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Walt! You sadden me |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. I would trust him had he changed his stance 6 years ago |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. I won't ask you who you're backing (If you even know already) |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
64. That combined with his support for a flag burning amendment |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Flag Burning- Answering it simply from my heart |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
25. Better Get Used to "Switched Stances" |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
27. Kucinich voted to BAN dilation and extrraction |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
95. In 2003 he argued against banning D & E, and he voted against |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
28. Dennis fully admits |
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orangecoloredapple (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. He is the first candidate in my long life |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. See, that's where I differ on Kucinich |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. When did |
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orangecoloredapple (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I don't see a flip-flop |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Amen!! n/t |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I read his voting record |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Meet the man |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I won't even consider voting for the man |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I find it highly strange |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. It's the way my mother raised me I guess |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
78. "The Women"? PLEASE |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
99. What? You're left cold by "his general |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:47 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Don't Tell Me What I'm Thinking, M'Kay? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:57 AM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Au contraire, I make many posts without mentioning |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:07 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. "My Man" Isn't Running |
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AnAmerican (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Obviously, you are letting this one issue..... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. If not for this one issue, I would be supporting Kucinich right now |
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orangecoloredapple (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Here's what comes to mind |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. His votes are specifically why I have NO admiration for him |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Like I said... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. The difference is simple |
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AnAmerican (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. I repeat my earlier post... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:56 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. His voting record did all the talking I need to hear |
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AnAmerican (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Somewhat closed minded.....but to each their own |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Even George Wallace |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:24 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. If this were six years after changing his stance |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
104. You're ignoring his recent vote AGAINST the D&E ban. eom |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
129. Then what do his two years of abstaining on abortion votes mean? |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:22 AM Response to Reply #129 |
132. then why... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
36. Kucinich is pro-life in the same way I and 2193 feminists are pro-life |
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orangecoloredapple (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. You can't argue with that! |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Absolutely beautiful! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Yep. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. The human mind is so amazingly complex! |
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Yentatelaventa (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. It's ok to kill growing babies in your womb if you don't want the to live |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. I'm missing your point totally |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
55. He voted strictly pro-life |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. That's fine and I cannot fault you your view on this |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Interesting. |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. actually.... |
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jburton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 10:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. And keep in mind |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 10:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Yup! |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I suspect that's where the 10% figure came from. |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. I found this... |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:39 AM Response to Reply #79 |
97. great choice of websites to prove your bias...I mean point |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:44 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. "The Nation" An Anti-Kucinich Site?!? |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:51 AM Response to Reply #100 |
105. actually I was referring to this site |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:04 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. and again.... |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:05 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. "Real Change" Slams ALL The Candidates - Not Just Kucinich! |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:56 AM Response to Reply #108 |
123. Aw C'Mon Rep- Carl Sagan says that and not one beep |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 03:50 AM Response to Reply #123 |
135. Carl Sagan is A) Dead and B) Not Running for Office |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:46 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Bias? |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:34 AM Response to Reply #97 |
119. just a hit and run, eh? |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:10 AM Response to Reply #119 |
126. here's a few definitions.... |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:20 AM Response to Reply #126 |
130. except... |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 04:04 AM Response to Reply #130 |
136. Remember What Ambrose Bierce Said? |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
59. This... |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Just a Q |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. umm... |
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Shanty Oilish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
74. I don't care what he thinks. I look at his record. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Then you better get ready not to trust |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:01 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Tinoire... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:09 AM Response to Reply #85 |
112. I think he would certainly be front and center (and has been) |
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wheresthemind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:16 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Tinore... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:42 AM Response to Reply #115 |
121. lol! |
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wheresthemind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:10 AM Response to Reply #121 |
127. I will head up the MN campaign for Tinoire any day! |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:23 AM Response to Reply #127 |
133. Oh this is a good night for the battered ego :) |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:24 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. You wrote... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:54 AM Response to Reply #116 |
122. Dookus! What about my drink??! |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:59 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. heheh.... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:11 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Cool! Will you PM me your number again? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:16 AM Response to Reply #85 |
114. Kucinich has already argued against the D&E "partial birth " ban |
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Shanty Oilish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:07 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Let me know when his personal evolution catches up |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:25 AM Response to Reply #88 |
117. You're cute :) |
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Shanty Oilish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:35 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. *slurp* |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:06 AM Response to Reply #120 |
125. Thank you for making me burst out laughing! |
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private_ryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
77. who cares!!!! |
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wheresthemind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:31 AM Response to Reply #77 |
118. yeah! Thats the spirit! |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
81. Kucinich's Record |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
84. Yup. But he's also pro-choice (work to make abortions less necessary). |
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FubarFly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
86. For what it's worth, I believe his conversion. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:10 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. I believe him, also. IMHO, his current position is a very good one. (n/t) |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:10 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. C'mon... |
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FubarFly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:28 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I respect your opinion. |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. of course! |
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FubarFly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:48 AM Response to Reply #96 |
103. Actually your posts have been very thoughtful . |
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Shanty Oilish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:17 AM Response to Reply #86 |
92. So you're saying, believe him because of his pro-life record? |
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FubarFly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:29 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Look at his stand on the other issues. |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:41 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I have... |
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wheresthemind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
109. I don't get it!!! |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:26 AM Response to Reply #109 |
134. Excellent point! |
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