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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 06:46 PM Original message |
Exactly how far has being decorous and deferential gotten the Dem Party |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's that basically how the right justifies human rights abuses in Iraq? |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, but |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. And we gaily skip further down the spiral? |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The truth is sometimes ugly. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. There is a time for truth......and a decent way to present it. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Actually, my post said nothing about Reagan, |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. what is the "decent way" to present the truth of the coup? |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. good point(s), noiretblu |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Exactly. |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
74. the truth ..... is ..... UGLY |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Nobody wins in politics by taking the high ground ... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
88. Here's a way... |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The abuses in Iraq.... |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I don't think good manners, decorum, and civility are ever wasted. |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I'm not dancing on any graves... |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 02:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
76. you equate telling the truth with "dancing on a grave?" |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Great Post! |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. the events are not similar but the rationale used to excuse it are |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Lame |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 02:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. that's a stretch to say the least |
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lastknowngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. Damn right it's time to fight with everything we can pick up buy |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. Will good manners be the death of us? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Amen! |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Bill Press often overshines his cohosts (like Buchanon) |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 01:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
71. And no one listens. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. different words: |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Yes. Too many folks here agree with the idea of 'ends justify the means' |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Maybe I've missed something, |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. You must not have been looking very carefully |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I didn't see that post. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You can vent and be as disgusting as you want |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
63. But what |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 12:06 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. You my friend, win my unintentionally hilarious post award for the night |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. there were many |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. I agree. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. In all fairness, many of the "dancing on his grave" comments were first |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. that true of the pissing on the grave |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Honestly? I'd be too skeered to pee or dance on a grave |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
57. Yes, that's because it works! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. As pointed out above, this is the same rationale for torturing prisoners |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
23. I agree |
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rolodomo (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. There are plenty of ways to make a stand... |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
27. Civility SCREWED us in 2000. No doubt the worst decision in the... |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. That wasn't civility |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 06:53 AM Response to Reply #39 |
77. Let's see, the FL Dems KNEW that the Repukes were planning the |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:58 AM Response to Reply #77 |
89. Come on |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
28. We can be powerful, impactful and inspirational without being vitriolic. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Refusing to be beaten down like a dog does not equate to vitriol. |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I don't know what you are talking about. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. You were replying to my original message, correct? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. probably in reference to the posts and threads |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Yup. You understand. Thanks, "salin". |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Yeah, and he also shamelessly cheated on his wife, your point? |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 11:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. True. So, who is your hero? |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. I made a general remark with no personal assault upon anyone. n/t |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. Then you must not had a great deal of experience |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. I take it that you believe more in humanity's destructive powers,... |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. the democratic party is still respected |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. If you read my original post I stated we shouldn't permit cover-ups |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. "decorous" and "deferential" |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. So I assume you agree with my premise. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. what does decorum have to do with procedure and strategy? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
35. Why don't we talk about putting the Republicans in concentration camps? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Good god people |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Well, you know there are only two possibile behaviors for Dems |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. This cracks me up ... |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Interesting language: "appeasers", "moral manners", "mission",... |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 07:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. I hope you know that I was being sarcastic. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
48. Yeah. Would be nice if the Dem leadership would speak out already. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You have a good point there. |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
51. Exactly. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
53. Agree |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. True story. Involving myself and a Bush cousin on this very subject |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
56. It's a sad fact that in America, nice guys always |
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Liberal Classic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-06-04 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
61. A lot farther than throwing tantrums |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
68. I agree. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
69. No one is asking for decorous or deferential |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
70. It's gotten them Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II. |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
72. Where has it gotten us. |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
73. I agree. They declared war on us and we didn't notice for years |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
78. There is a smart way and a stupid way |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:13 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Exactly where and when did I recommend "pissing on Reagan's grave"? |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:42 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I think it's the timing |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #85 |
92. I understand. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
80. Disagree without being Disagreeable |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:11 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I think that's exactly the point I've been trying to make! |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 09:00 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. It rather sounded like |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 09:07 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Whatever. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Its no surprise that you are a Clark supporter |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
83. So you want to fight |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
84. "Crying foul" doesn't help at all... |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:46 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Leadership |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
87. Now that the fear of racial unrest and union muscle has abated ... |
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