Ron Reagan put it "out there" that if Bush changes policy on stem cell

merh

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:12 PM
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Ron Reagan put it "out there" that if Bush changes policy on stem cell

then Nancy will probably change her mind about appearing at the Repuke National Convention and speak about stem cell research.

Two Questions:

1) Will GW and his Klan change their stance?
2) If they do, will it hurt them more than help?

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David Dunham

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:13 PM
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1. Bush won't chnage.

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onecitizen

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:14 PM
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2. Ditto what David said. eom

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lancdem

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:17 PM
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5. No, he won't

His stance on this issue is part of his religious fanaticism.

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FlashHarry

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:16 PM
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3. Risk alienating his fundie base for Nancy? Never happen.

Without evangelicals, Bush is toast. (I think he's toast, anyway, but that's another story.)

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acmavm

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:17 PM
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4. If he were to change his stance on this issue, he would be going against

a lot of his hard core religious base. He would also be committing the ultimate 'flip flop' of his pResidential career and it would become readily apparent to his supporters that he really cannot be trusted, something we know already.

Anyway, even if he did reverse his public stance on this issue, once he was back in office (although I don't think he will be) he would reverse himself immediately. Using Nancy Reagan wouldn't be below the guy simply because there's nothing that he won't stoop to.

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polar

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:17 PM
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6. We have a better chance of....

Seeing God in person than to ever see GWB change his stance on anything even after being shown factual information!

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Nite Owl

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:17 PM
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7. Bush is really stuck on this one.

If he changes his mind he loses the fundie base which he must have if he doesn't then he loses Nancy. The latter seems likely the bet.

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scarletwoman

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:18 PM
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8. bush* wouldn't dare change his position on this,

he'd lose the rabid fundy vote, and there would go ANY chance for his election.

sw

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merh

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:21 PM
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10. Thanks all, that is what I thought, but I wanted some reinforcement. (eom)

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peacetalksforall

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Fri Jun-18-04 08:21 PM
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9. Don't trust him, Nancy!

These people are
deal breakers
treaty breakers
agreement breakers
alliance breakers
partner breakers
- and - truth breakers.

They set up their partners on the thickest most luxurious carpets imaginable.....then !!!!! whoosh!!! they pull it out from under them.

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blackcat77

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:03 PM
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11. He's got more to lose than he does to gain.

So it won't happen.

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dflprincess

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:06 PM
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12. Unless....

Rove can figure out someway for him to renege before the convention and then if (God forbid) he wins in November, double crossing Nancy by reneging on his deal with her. They've pulled this sort of thing off before.

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spanone

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:09 PM
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13. He could get the rethug congress to push for research, then he

could blame them, get Nancy and still be the 'good guy' to the religious wing-nuts.

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napi21

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:56 PM
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18. Couldn't risk that! He could lose control of the House & Senate!

You know, if by some dishonest method, he stays in the WH, losing control of both houses of Congress could be the best thing we've seen in a VERY LONG TIME!

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merh

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Fri Jun-18-04 11:00 PM
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20. That is a real possibility. That is scary. (n/t)

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dansolo

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:22 PM
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14. This statement gives Nancy an out

I believe that Nancy has recently come to the conclusion that she wants to have nothing to do with Bush because she realizes that she is only a prop to them. By saying this now, Nancy has a ready made excuse to not participate in the convention.

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Pushed To The Left

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:30 PM
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15. Wouldn't it be something.....

...if the Reagans came out in support of Kerry?

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Bake

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:47 PM
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16. I think Nancy OUGHT to speak at the Pukefest

And what she ought to do (without warning, of course) is come out and blast the shit outta Smirk over stem cell research, having the nerve to try to fill St. Ronnie's boots, and generally being an idiot! That'd be SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!

Bake

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Kipepeo

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:53 PM
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17. won't change

would lose his fundie base and would fall into a huge flip-flop hole

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neverforget

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Fri Jun-18-04 10:57 PM
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19. If he changed that would be a flip flop or an admission that he can

admit a mistake. Never happen.

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Cat Atomic

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Fri Jun-18-04 11:02 PM
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21. I doubt it would change President Cheney's mind, no.

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DoctorWeird

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Fri Jun-18-04 11:23 PM
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22. Dimya would never admit he was wrong

about anything. Ever. Changing his stance would admit that maybe just maybe he was wrong.

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