Is PETA correct in claiming Iams is cruel to animals?

http://iamscruelty.com/iams.asp

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Despite assurances in the Iams research policy that no animal would ever be killed, our investigator documented the destruction of 27 out of 60 dogs who underwent an invasive procedure that involved having huge chunks of muscle cut out of their legs. Two more of those dogs were found dead in their cages after the surgery; one had been suffering for 11 days prior to her death.

When our investigator reported that Humbug, an Iams dog, was limping, she was told by a vet tech that the laboratory had an x-ray machine that dated back to the 1960s but no film for it and that the director of the laboratory preferred to kill, rather than treat, animals with broken bones. In addition, Fifi and the other dogs used in Iams� metabolic studies were bled by the laboratory in order to sell their blood to other companies even though the studies do not call for blood draws.

Finally, shortly before our investigator left, the lab director told the vet techs to debark all the Iams dogs as he was being disturbed by their desperate cries for attention. Our investigator e-mailed Iams researchers in Dayton with this information, hoping that Iams would intervene. But all she got was the sickening sight of a lab technician covered in blood after a day of performing the debarking surgery.

When our investigator resigned, she told the Iams representative and the lab director that she was leaving because despite her best efforts, nothing was being done to enhance the desperately boring, lonely, harsh lives of the animals. The Iams representative admitted that both he and the lab director were from the �old school.�

more...

http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/food.html

PETA has written multiple letters to hundreds of companion animal food companies asking that they sign a statement of assurance if they do not test on animals. As we receive responses to our mailing, we are compiling them into a list of dog and cat food companies that do not test on animals, which we will continue to update.

If you buy dog or cat food from a manufacturer that is not included on this list, that means that either the company did not respond to PETA�s letters or that it did respond but admitted that it conducts experiments on animals.

Click here to view PETA�s first letter, follow-up letter, and survey (Adobe Acrobat Reader required) sent to companion animal food companies. If your usual brands of dog and cat food are not on our list, please send copies of our letters and survey to the manufacturers and tell them that you will not purchase their products until they assure PETA that they do not test on animals.

If a company says that it �only conducts feeding trials� (also known as �palatability studies� or �taste tests�), PETA would like to know if these studies are conducted in company-owned laboratories, in contract laboratories, or in the homes of companion animals whose guardians have agreed to let them participate in palatability tests.

Click here for the U.K. version of this list.

Companion Animal Food Manufacturers
Alternatives 4 Pets, Inc.
613-488-3156
819-684-9249
www.alternatives4pets.com

Amor� Pet Services, Inc.
1-866-572-6673
www.amorepetfoods.com

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how dastardly!

PETA is f-ed up.

I mean, don't we all do that to our own dogs to see that the food agrees with them?

Let's just ask ourselves... would we allow our OWN pets to live under such conditions?

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the post I responded to merely stated that PETA was asking dog food companies not to test their products on dogs.

In case it needs to be said, I am opposed to hacking chunks out of dogs' legs. :eyes:

That being said, PETA hurts their cause more than they help it.

My cats and dogs left the room when I watched this.

This is mostly dog-related but the little kitten is at the end. Heart-breaking.

http://www.iamscruelty.com/iams-video.asp

Instead of disparing PETA, as a cat lover who would crawl miles on your hands and knees to take care of your kittens, you should watch this and ask yourself if you want to feed them IAMS after IAMS has tortured enough animals to see just how much meat in the feed they can replace with chicken feathers in order to maximize their profits.

But hell, that's capitalism I guess- maximizing profits at the expense of people and animals.

Damn. Bad, sad video.

Video doesn't lie. Watch it. Watch it and know that it's not one of the worst ones I've seen.

Watch enough of these and you'll be writing bug FAT checks to PETA begging them to keep educating the public.

And so I'm off. Off to Petsmart with printouts about this case to DEMAND that they stop carrying IAMS and any other brand that torments animals in the name of profit.

The only thing that's fucked up is that consicentious animal lovers are fighting to get this information out and that others poke fun at them and join the corporate media's efforts to minimize what they're doing.

It's Cruelty-Free! and your dog will eat it, once they get hungry enough...

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Problem is, veggies are so expensive I paid over nine dollars they other day for salad stuff for 3 days for just me. I have to share with my two dogs, they just love it.

But there's all that meat and meat by-products, too...

I have seen a Lab sit with a roasting ear in his paws, just having a grand time...:7

That's really good for 'em, even makes 'em go blind after awhile. This is very upsetting because I always fed my late dog Iams. It was the best thing for her digestion. I had planned to feed it to any future dogs I got as well, but I suppose I will have to rethink that. This is very disturbing.

Feeding corn and tofu to a dog is not advisable.

The PETA folks think its cruel to keep pets of any kind. So, since they don't want you to have pets, no dog food would/should be necessary.

PETA are extremists.

...is that you can usually tell when they're being extreme. PETA can make some pretty wacky leaps of logic, and do take extreme stands regarding vegetarianism, products from animals, etc. I'm not aware of them having a history of lying about specific abuse cases though.

I'm inclined to believe them in this particular case. Won't be giving up my carnivorous ways or leather jacket anytime soon though. ;)

Many many MANY times their accusations against labs, companies, schools are DOCUMENTED with photographs and films!

Remember also... to the Republicans WE are extremists! Labels are damned easy to apply!

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makes the poop real small... keeps the teeth clean

But, then I read some contradictory stories. Luckily, I don't have a pet right now, so the pet food industry is not one I support, either way. (I don't have to worry about buying unethically.)

any other high quality fod.

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is they may be right, but I simply don't trust them on any issue. They're extremist nutjobs who HARM their cause because of their actions.

If I was an animal, I'd sue for better representation. Somebody like Jimmy Carter...

on bag of Iams food produced by P&G. Even better, compare the new list of ingredients to the old, non-P&G ingredient list. The new ingredients include by-products (skin, hair, tumors, etc) and lots of ground yellow corn, plus BHA and BHT. I don't need Peta to tell me that this P&G Iams food is crap, and bad for the animals in my care.

Iams used to be excellent, with high-quality ingredients. Those days are over. Pretty much, if it's sold at K-Mart, it's not going to be a high-quality pet food.

Oh, by the way, P&G's mistreated animals have it good, compared to what goes on at Hill's (Science Diet).

On an outdoors board I visit, Iams is being boycotted by hunters for donating to HSUSA.

they do a courageous study and stand up for the defenseless. I admire Alec Baldwin as spokesperson for them. But yes, Iams has lost money from me.

ignored...they hurt people where they have no business......

their enemies do *exactly* what our enemies do to US!

PeTA has been tarred with the 'extremist' brush for decades. But they are NOT the Animal Liberation front or any other group like that. And one of their FIRST principles is not to harm ANY living being... *including* human beings.

We are liberals, NOT "communists" not "radicals", we don't "hate America" and we don't "support the terrorists"...

PeTA takes what is an unpopular stance in that they confront those who use and harm and exploit animals... the VERY same way Greenpeace confronts those who use and harm and exploit the environment!

Did you know that the US government has OFFICIALLY labeled PeTA as a terrorist organization?!

That means that if they get their hands on PeTA's emebership lists, those of us who are, or have EVER corresponded with them are now at risk under the PATRIOT act?

PeTA IS NOT A TRRORIST ORGANIZATION, but the current mindset labels it such! And when you read the accusations against them, REMEMBER what was done to Greenpeace, to Karen Silkwood, to other organizations under COINTELPRO and **THINK** instead of just react!

Thanks!

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I knew someone who lived in a apartment complex. Started feeding the racoons. They came up on the deck. Then they came up on neighbors decks. Racoons can be rabid so I could understand the neighbors concern. She continued to feed the racoons.

The neighbor used a bb gun to get rid of the racoons. She took him to court and he received a felony charge.

I would have been very upset with a neighbor feeding racoons on my apartment complex decks.....

I may not have taken out a bb gun......

but to get a guy charged with a felony because SHE ATTRACTED the racoons was to me irresponsible.....

PETA using hachets in macdonalds packages.....and all the rest of their outrageous behavior turns me off to any of the efforts.... they have work to turn people off.

They are losing the battle because of their behavior. Change their behavior and people might listen.....

I consider them worse than the RW.

"And one of their FIRST principles is not to harm ANY living being... *including* human beings."

Considering that they kill at least a thousand animals a year that they've "rescued", what do you base that on? Or is killing the animals not really harming them?

"But they are NOT the Animal Liberation front or any other group like that."

Right. They just act as their press agents, and give money to ALF members who are caught and convicted of serial arson. Of course, Sinn Fein had no improper connections to the PIRA, either.

'nuff said.

Who is "us" by the way?

They don't make me look bad all and I am more than proud to have them represent me in a fight to end gratuitious cruelty.

are people who actually work with animals on an individual basis. We work to keep them alive in decent settings, while PETA euthanizes them.

What percentage of animals "rescued" by PETA end up being killed by PETA? They could take care of them, but it isn't "cost effective" for them, so Ingrid has them killed. She apparently figures it's better to torment and abuse human children than to actually work to provide decent care for animals, since the child-abuse gets her more publicity. (I'm referring to the Boston Nutcracker "mommy kills" campaign)

Supporting PETA rather than supporting your local no-kill shelter puts the blood of the animals PETA slaughters on your hands. If you're OK with that, fine.

nor do they kill them.

What a... fallacious post.

http://www.petrescueonline.org/newsinfo/petaeu.htm

This article says:

"Last year, the Norfolk-based animal-rights group took in 2,103 companion animals. It was able to find homes for 386, and put down 1,325. (Transfers and reclamations by owners accounted for most of the rest of the animals PETA took in.)"

That certainly makes it appear that well over HALF of the animals PETA "rescued" were in fact PUT TO DEATH BY PETA. For every ONE animal PETA placed, it KILLED MORE THAN THREE.

From PETA's response to the article linked to above:

"PETA opts to euthanize extremely sick or feral animals immediately, rather than subject them to the trauma of further transport and caging that will only, ultimately, end in death. We give them love and attention, food and soothing voices, and yes, a gentle death in our arms."

Those are PETA'S WORDS. "A gentle death in our arms." I suppose we should count ourselves lucky that they aren't using the fur from the animals they murdered to line Ingrid's pockets.

Know the facts before you start ranting.

If you can't understand why some of the abused, sick animals they rescue have to be put down to end their suffering, I feel for you. I have seen some of the animals PETA has rescued and they are in pathethic shape. There aren't enough good-hearted people to take them in or no-kill shelters around and you know that as well as I or any other animal lover on this board does.
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Our Community Animal Project (CAP) rescues homeless animals directly -- crawling through sewers, poking through junkyards, climbing trees, dodging cars, and arguing with landlords to coax terrified abandoned or neglected animals to safety. We go into the very worst of neighborhoods to deliver food, doghouses, and bedding to pit bulls who have never known a kind word or touch; dogs who--thinking we are bent on doing them harm as all the other humans in their lives have--come at us with snapping jaws to defend the tiny patch of muddy earth they call home. We find starved corpses, dying animals, what is left of cats who have been used as bait for fighting dogs. In winter we see the dogs shiver and try to curl into the tiniest balls to keep warm; in summer we see them with their tongues dragging, water bowls overturned, panting to try not to succumb to the heat. In floods and storms, we are out there at all hours of the night saving lives. We push to have owners of severely abused animals prosecuted and the animals removed, but if we can do nothing else, we try hard to at least make the animals as comfortable as we can and sterilize them so more puppies won't freeze out there in winter or
burn alive in summer.

PETA takes in the animals nobody wants--the feral cat colonies descended from abandoned, unaltered house cats who are now thin and wild and often infected with deadly, ravaging diseases like Feline AIDS and leukemia. The stray dogs so disfigured by mange they are almost no longer recognizable as canines. The litters of parvo-infected puppies, wracked with diarrhea and vomiting--literally dehydrating to death. The backyard dogs who have known only chains, beatings, and neglect, and who have gone mad because of it. Some of the animals PETA takes in are eventually reunited with their families. We have caught and reunited some of the most elusive animals who other agencies have given up on. Some animals are fostered until homes can be found for them (PETA does not operate a shelter; we use veterinary boarding kennels and foster homes, including our own staffers' houses, and space is extremely limited). Other healthy and adoptable animals are taken directly to local shelters. Tragically, the only relief for the rest lies in oblivion.

Area shelters are overrun with animals, thousands of whom are euthanized for lack of good homes, despite the fact that most are young, healthy, and friendly. The "middle-aged" shepherd mix who literally climbs the walls trying to escape the presence of humans doesn't stand a chance--he will simply mark time cowering in his cage until his date with the needle. PETA opts to euthanize extremely sick or feral animals immediately, rather than subject them to the trauma of further transport and caging that will only, ultimately, end in death. We give them love and attention, food and soothing voices, and yes, a gentle death in our arms.

There is hope for abused animals, and it lies in prevention. We must persuade people to spay and neuter animals to stop the cycle of abuse. We must convince governments, like our own here in Norfolk--where we have already changed the ordinance once and are working to change it again--to accept responsibility instead of turning a blind eye to a problem that results in almost unimaginable animal suffering--not to mention taxpayer expense. PETA works very hard on this, educating the public about the need to spay and neuter through pamphlets, billboards, letters to the editor, ads, articles, and humane education in schools. We spay and neuter animals belonging to low-income families and the elderly poor for no charge whatsoever--we pay for every shot, surgery, blood and feces sample, and medication. Since January, 1999, PETA has sponsored more than 700 spay/neuter surgeries in the Tidewater area. But PETA and animal shelters can't do it alone. Everyone needs to do their part. Every one of us who cares about animals must work to help the animals in our communities. If a stray shows up on our doorstep, we mustn't tell ourselves that she has a home, or that "someone else" will take care of her. We must be that "someone else." Caring individuals must take homeless animals to shelters or, if they have the time, money, and space, spay them, vaccinate them, and foster them until loving, permanent homes can be found.

Each and every one of us can make a difference. If your neighbor's dog "keeps having puppies," offer to have her spayed. Write to your town councilperson and urge him or her to raise licensing fees for unaltered animals. Alert authorities if you witness an animal being abused or neglected. Boycott pet shops that sell puppies and kittens and adopt strays or shelter animals instead.

PETA can provide information, advice, educational materials, and assistance. For more information on our companion animal programs and literature, please go to: http://www.peta-online.org/cmp/ca.html. I hope this information is helpful and I hope you will continue to support PETA's vital campaigns. Thank you again for your inquiry and for all you do to help animals.

Sincerely,
Alisa Mullins
Correspondent

http://www.petrescueonline.org/newsinfo/petaeu2.htm

What's your alternative? Leaving these animals in the labs? Leaving in place the live pigs they rescue from the dead heaps of slaughter plants to slowly die there because they were carried tranported in an unheated truck in the middle of winter and lost their hind leg as some slaughterhouse worker pried that pig away from the truck's walls with a crow-bar but left its entire hind leg frozen stuck to the wall?

What's your alternative? I prefer PETA's. This shit has got to end.

that you're claiming to save.

As my nick suggests, I'm 100% into the no-kill shelter movement. I've got feral cats living in my house. They've been here for many years, they've been fixed, and they lead relatively good lives. If PETA had caught these cats rather than our group, they'd all have been dead for 8+years, instead of having lead fulfilling lives.

Frankly, if PETA gave a shit about the animals, they'd FIND a way to help them OTHER than to just kill them. Think about it...The whole "your life isn't worth living, so we're going to round you up and exterminate you to make the world a better place" bit has been done before.

If PETA simply sterilized and released the feral animals that can live on their own, I'd have a lot less of a problem with them. It's one thing to euthanize animals that have been abused by people. It's quite another to go around rounding up ferals that are doing OK on their own and exterminating them. Spay them? OK, no problem. Gas them? No. That's no different than what the labs do, exploiting animals and taking their lives for some perceived benefit to humans.

Many feral cat colonies do not carry FIV, FLV, etc. These colonies can and are being effectively and humanely managed by spaying/neutering and vaccinations. Feral cat colonies are actually beneficial by controlling the vermin population, and pose little or no harm to humans. In the case of very sick, injured or FIV+/FLV+ cats, euthanizing may be the kindest option, but not for healthy cats living in feral colonies. I have seen some interesting research that indicates that members of a feral cat colony tend to live nearly as long as indoor-only cats (these cats are different from housecats who have been dumped on the streets by asshole humans and who do not join a colony; these poor creatures tend to survive for four years or less).

Feral cats can be adopted into a household as well. Many myths about the untameable nature of ferals are simply that - myths. I am acquainted with many 'untameable' former ferals who are now leading happy lives as spoiled, indoor-only housecats.

I know of many groups that help feral colonies with feeding, spay/neuter, vaccinations, vet care and rehoming. These are the groups that get my money.

(I think I may have clicked on to wrong post to reply - I agree 1000% with NoKillShelterGuy.)

Too bad not many people can hear.

But, of course, cats are carnivorous.

tofu for kitty!

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Cats are obligate carnivores and CANNOT survive on a vegan or vegetrarian diet. Anyone who would try to force their dietary ideology on a captive animal is beneath contempt. If a vegan cannot tolerate that cats must have meat to survive, they should rehome their cats with a responsible person who will feed a feline-appropriate diet.

I'll bet any cat who's fed tofu by his "staff" (owners) turns into a very good hunter as soon as he goes out.

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On the other hand, I'll the home of that tofu-fed cat is remarkably rodent-free.

Check out the list of the brands they recommend. Plenty of meat-laden brands there and surprisingly enough some of the brands they recommend have real meat/poultry flesh as the number one ingredient.

Your cat will love you for this. My little carnivores swear by Natural Balance. And it doesn't cost me more because they need less of it to feel 'fed'. Here is its ingredient listing:

INGREDIENT LISTING
Chicken, Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, Duck, Lamb Meal, Potatoes, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, Vitamin E) Canola Oil, Oatmeal, Fish Meal, Brewers Yeast, Rosemary Extract, Dried Skimmed Milk, Natural Flavor, Dried Eggs, Carrots, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Kelp, DL Methionine, Dried Cranberries, Lecithin, Parsley Flakes, Tomato Pomace, Taurine, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin C Supplement, Yucca Schidigera, Folic Acid, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (a source of Vitamin K activity), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Ethylene Dihydriodide, Sodium Selenite.


From PETA:

...a list of forward-thinking companion-animal food companies that have stopped or never conducted tests on animals in laboratories:

Active Life Pet Products
1-877-291-2913
www.activelifepp.com

Alternatives 4 Pets, Inc.
613-302-3156
www.alternatives4pets.com

Amor� Pet Services, Inc.
1-866-572-6673
www.amorepetfoods.com

Animal Food Services
1-800-743-0322
www.animalfood.com

Azmira Holistic Animal Care
1-800-497-5665
www.azmira.com

Burns Pet Nutrition
1-877-983-9651
www.burns-pet-nutrition.co.uk

Canusa International
519-624-5697
www.canusaint.com

CountryPet Pet Food
1-800-454-7387
www.countrypet.com

Dr. Harvey�s
1-866-362-4123
www.drharveys.com

Dry Fork Milling Co.
1-800-346-1360

Dynamite Marketing, Inc.
208-887-9410
www.dynamitemarketing.com

Evanger�s Dog and Cat Food Co., Inc.
1-800-288-6796
www.evangersdogfood.com

Evolution Diet, Inc. (entirely vegan)
1-800-659-0104
www.petfoodshop.com

Good Dog Foods, Inc.
732-842-4555
www.gooddogfoods.com

GreenTripe.Com
831-726-3255
www.greentripe.com

Halo, Purely for Pets
1-800-426-4256
www.halopets.com

Happy Dog Food
1-800-359-9576
www.happydogfood.com

Harbingers of a New Age (entirely vegan)
406-295-4944
www.vegepet.com

Holistic Blend
1-800-954-1117
www.holisticblend.com

The Honest Kitchen
858-483-5995
www.thehonestkitchen.com

Know Better Dog Food
1-866-922-6463
www.knowbetterdogfood.com

KosherPets, Inc.
954-938-6270
www.kosherpets.com

Kumpi Pet Foods
303-699-8562
www.kumpi.com

Natural Balance Pet Foods, Inc.
(has vegan options)
1-800-829-4493
www.naturalbalanceinc.com

Natural Life Pet Products, Inc.
(has vegan options)
1-800-367-2391
www.nlpp.com

Nature�s Variety
1-888-519-7387
www.naturesvariety.com

PetGuard (has vegan options)
1-800-874-3221
904-264-8500
www.petguard.com

Pied Piper Pet & Wildlife
1-800-338-4610
www.piedpiperpet.com

Raw Advantage, Inc.
360-387-5158
www.rawadvantagepetfood.com

Rocky Mountain Natural Products
1-877-768-6788 (Eastern U.S.)
1-800-665-5521 (Western U.S.)
www.rmtnp.com

Sauder Feeds, Inc.
260-627-2196
www.sauderfeeds.com

Veterinary Nutritional Formula
1-800-811-0530
www.vnfpetfood.com

Wow-Bow Distributors Ltd. (has vegan options)
1-800-326-0230
www.wow-bow.com

Wysong Professional Diets (has vegan options)
1-800-748-0188
www.wysong.net

http://www.iamscruelty.com/res.asp

what the fuck is that all about??? my 14yr old dog eats everything but lettuce. she`s is pretty healthy for her age and she can still crunch up a ham bone in a couple of hours..her fav snack-little debbie fudge rounds..

but not lettuce! they love green peppers.

it contains Niacin...deadly to a dog.

It is toxic for dogs.

As someone who has fed her dog Iams in the past, I find this information incredibly sad. I don't like preventable suffering no matter what the species. I understand that in certain circumstances such as essential medical research compromises might prove necessary, but I don't understand the necessity for this type of cruelty in relation to pet food. Sometimes difficult moral judgments must be made and that's where the debate about the scope of the definition of cruelty comes in, but I believe there are times when the cause of unnecessary suffering is so clear that even the most callous must find it difficult to deny .

Although my positions on animal rights are not as radical as those held by PETA, I hold no ill will towards the organization. Animal cruelty needs to be exposed. If my dog by whatever luck found herself in a circumstance similar to the poor dogs described in the original post, I would hope that someone was looking out for her best interests.

Since Iams was bought by Proctor and Gamble, their food has gone from being one of the best to being one of the worst. It is loaded with ground yellow corn, something which cats simply cnnot digest, as well as meat by-products.

Nor only is the food now unhealthy, P&G is well-known for experimenting on animals. Last year a statement was issued that they had stopped most of it, but did not mention how animals in the pet-food part of the company were treated. It seems pretty obvious why it went unmentioned.

There are many companies that produce superior cat food. For those cats who require a completely corn-free diet, Nature's Recipe is a good choice; for cats who can tolerate some corn, thr Nutro Natural line contains corn gluten meal but no ground yellow corn (and my cats really like it).

I recently lost a cat to kidney failure, and the vet recommended Hills Science Diet, low protein. The cats (neither the sick one nor the healthy one) cared for it too much, and it appeared to be very cereal-like.

I recently found out from the girl at the pet store that Hills Science Diet is made by... you guessed it: Procter and Gamble. P&G pays to put a lot of vets through school and in return they recommend Hills Science Diet.

The girl at the pet store recommended Wellness Super5mix.

As a kidney patient myself, this is something I'm familiar with. The old thinking was that low-protein diets put less stress on the kidneys and therefore would help slow down the rate of failure. My nephrologist showed me a bunch of studies showing that those diets actually made little difference. Feline kidney treatment isn't much different from managing human renal disease, and reducing potassium, salt and phosphates is important to bothe human and felines.

Meat protein is an important source of methionine, which helps prevent stone formation in cats. Reducing protein without supplementing methionine is just asking for trouble.

Last I heard Hill's is not owned by P&G and their food has always been shit. Their feline renal diets, for example, are full of ethyquoxin, which is a pesticide. A cat with failing kidneys does not need the additional burden of a pesticide. Additionally, their food contains way too much ground yellow corn, by-products and if the local rumors are true, rendered pet animals as well. It is true that Hill's does fund veterinary scholarships and puts itself out as the expert on dog and cat nutrition, but it's bullshit.

I use Nutro Natural Kitten even though my cats are all adults. My 13-year-old Siamese gets too skinny on 'adult' formula, and the others are so active they are a very low risk of getting fat.

the article and topic is in no way referencing feeding dogs or cats a vegatarian/vegan diet, so why are people bringing that up in the replies?

and YES what peta says about iams is TRUE. it's so easy to avoid terrible companies such as this but everyone seems to be more fond of going off topic and finding a way to bash peta even when they are doing something worthwhile!

This board started crawling with Peta bashers last year. Regardless of what the story is or what the facts are they'll recycle the same tripe about Peta pushing veganism. It's a most convenient ruse used to mute awareness of torment & torture.

Thanks to Peta and other groups like them, I know exactly which brands to avoid so I can feed my pets the most healthy, cruelty-free meat diets. No ground up chicken feathers and beaks for my pets. Thanks Peta for everything you do to make people more aware!


We need more organizations as aware as PETA during a time when our President was an animal torturer as a child. The step between sanctioning animal torment and human torment is small.

NO EXCUSE FOR TORMENTING ANIMALS!

NO EXCUSE FOR TORMENTING HUMANS!

I can't speak for the other person who posted that that's a bad idea, but I posted what I did in case anyone was serious about putting a cat on a vegan or vegetarian diet.

I also posted about Iams being bought out by Proctor and Gamble, something that no one else had posted, and about the overall low quality of the food since P&G took it over.

Please tell me where the PETA bashing is in either of my posts.

Your posts I actually agree with :shrug:

I was one of the people who posted that vegan/vegetarian diets are a terrible idea for cats, and thought I was being lumped in with Peta-bashers. Bashing Peta isn't my thing - getting people to stop feeding Iams and avoiding vegan cat diets is!

On edit: After visiting Peta's list of pet food companies that don't test on animals, I can see why some are concerned. While I did not see anything stating that Peta advocates putting cats on a vegan diet, their list includes vegan-only pet food suppliers who sell vegan cat food. (One supplier even has a special supplement for cats because "{c}ats need dietary taurine, but significant quantities naturally occur only in animal tissues. A shortage causes blindness and heart disease. Most mammals biosynthesize vitamin A from the yellow pigment (carotene) found in vegetables. Cats lack this ability, making a dietary source of this vitamin, found naturally only in animal tissues, essential. Vitamin D is another essential vitamin, found naturally only in animal tissues as D3....", but the ingredient list for this supplement proudly proclaims "All ingredients are from non-animal sources.") After seeing these suppliers on Peta's list, some people might conclude that Peta thinks that all these foods are safe, despite no explicit statement from Peta.

and appreciate all the work they do exposing the cruelty and down-right unhealthiness of some of our food-processing plants and methods.

My cats would KILL me if I ever tried to put them on a vegan diet! I would never even dare try lol...

Peace

We feed cruelty-free also and our cat EATS MEAT!

We are a mixed, began, semi-veggie household, and we feed meat to our kitten (and to our dogs before her) because meat is their NATURAL DIET!

Our animals NEVER consented to a vegetarian or vegan diet and a large PART of animal-rights is that the animal has a RIGHT to the best diet they can be given!

So we DO look for dog or cat food companies that are cruelty-free.

AND WE FEED MEAT. By the way, contrary to popular belief, PeTA DOES NOT insist that cats (obligate carnivores) be fed vegan diets! They DO understand the necessity of feeding Taurine and the necessity of meat in a cat's diet.

Some of their MEMBERSHIP may feed vegan cat diets, but PeTA does not INSIST on it and never HAS!

309

would have seen that :) I'm glad this was posted because now I have an even longer list of brands I'll look for.

I have one cat who begs for raw beef and fish when I'm cooking. Her greatest pleasure is her own little plate of red meat (all organic since we buy half a cow at a time after having it raised, cared for and slaughtered as humanely as we can).

I shudder to think of all the diseased meat we unknowingly feed our pets by not paying attention.

Here's to your kitties :toast:

As I said in my edit, I did not see Peta advocating vegan diets for cats, but there are vegan catfood suppliers on their 'approved' list. I think that is where the confusion comes from, and it might not be a bad idea for Peta to make it more plain that that is not something they advocate.

On edit: I think dogs can do just fine on a vegetarian or vegan diet, but I'm not sure, so I'm keeping my mouth shut about dogs. I do know that cats must have meat, period.

No more companion animals, its just speciest slavery. /sarcasm off

My cats act all independent and whatnot but they still REFUSE to operate the can opener.

They are free to walk right out of their little cat door and head for Beverly Hills anytime they want but noooooo, 6 AM & 5PM sharp there they are every day- meowing their heads off because their servant is late with the meal.

Like most pet owners, I'm the only slave in this house.

You are absolutely right about the PETA bashers here, or at least some of them, and it just blows me away every time I see a PETA thread here - as if humane treatment of animials was just the most appalling concept ever.

I agree 1000% - there is NO excuse for tormenting and mistreating animals.

When I read reports like this it makes me wonder sometimes how the perpetrators of such agony would feel in the animals' places. Wonder how the doc would feel about things after living in a cold cage for endless periods, having chunks of his legs removed, and being "devoiced" - ?

and even though it's mild in comparison to some of the other ones they have, it really infuriated me to watch the suffering of those animals.

Thank you so much for caring. I could reach through this screen and hug you!

Best Friends Betrayed
Iams/Eukanuba has been using dogs and cats in highly invasive experiments that subjected them to major surgeries and implanted them with tubes and other apparatus throughout their bodies. All of the experiments described below have been published in recent journals of veterinary research, most within the past three years.

One cruel experiment to study the effect of extreme weight fluctuations on the liver forced 24 cats to become obese by feeding them a high-calorie diet immediately after being spayed. Once obese, these cats were then starved for 7 to 8 weeks on a diet containing only 25% of the calories needed for maintenance, in order to induce drastic weight loss. The rapid, extreme weight loss forced 3 of the cats to develop hepatic lipidosis, a devastating disease that is difficult to treat and often fatal. No mention is made about the ultimate fate of the surviving cats. (1)

In another study to look at diet and allergies, 14 newborn puppies were manipulated with injections to develop allergens to various food ingredients. When the dogs were later placed on diets containing the allergen, they lost weight, developed moderate to severe diarrhea, hair loss and itching. Twice during the experiment, the dogs had solutions of the allergy- causing ingredient injected into the lining of the stomach while under anesthesia. These dogs will remain allergic for the rest of their lives. (2)

One cruel experiment to study the effect of extreme weight fluctuations on the liver forced cats to become obese by feeding them a high-calorie diet immediately after being spayed. Upon becoming obese, the same cats were then starved for 7 to 8 weeks on a diet containing only 25% of the required calories in order to induce drastic weight loss. The extreme weight fluctuations forced the cats to undergo hepatic lipidosis, a devastating disease that is not easily cured. No mention is made about the ultimate fate of these cats. (3)

A 1998 experiment sponsored by Iams killed 18 young Great Danes to study the effect of diet on bone density. The dogs had been placed on diets with varying amounts of calcium and phosphorus and were later killed so that their bones could be removed and analyzed. (4)

To study fiber in the diet, cats were subjected to surgeries that opened their abdominal cavities and flushed out the contents of the intestines. At the end of the experiment, all 28 cats used in the study had the entire large intestine removed. The study does not state the final fate of these cats. (5)

In fact, most of these experiments do not address what happens to the animals after the experiments. Animals with complex medical problems, missing large sections of their intestines, or forced to develop chronic allergies, are all manipulated to endure a life of disability and suffering.

References
<1> Ibriham, WH, Szabo, J, Sunvold, GD, et al, Effect of dietary protein quality and fatty acid composition on plasma lipoprotein concentrations and hepatic triglyceride fatty acid synthesis in obese cats undergoing rapid weight loss, Amer J Vet Res 2000; 6(5):556-572.

<2> Hayek, M.G., Hypersensitivity reactions to dietary antigens in atopic dogs. Proceedings of 2000 Iams Nutrition Symposium

<3> Ibriham, Szabo, Sunvold, Kelleher, Bruckner, "Effect of dietary protein quality and fatty acid composition on plasma lipoprotein concentrations and hepatic triglyceride fatty acid synthesis in obese cats undergoing rapid weight loss," AJVR, Vol. 61, Iams)5:556-572 (2000)

<4> Crenshaw, Budde, Lauten, Lepine, Nutritional Effects on Bone Strength in the Growing Canine, 1998 Iams Nutrition Symposium.

<5> Bueno, Cappel, Sunvold, Reinhart, Clemen, "Feline Colonic Morphology and Mucosal Tissue Energetics as Influenced via Sources of Dietary Fiber," Nutrition Research, Vol. 20, 7 : 985-993 (2000).

http://www.iamskills.com/the_horrors.shtml

:yourock:

The assertion that PETA is suggesting that pets only be fed a vegan diet is false. I've been browsing through the pet food links PETA provided on that link Karmadillo posted earlier. My subject line, "Magic of Meat! Fresh Real Raw Meat", is the header on one of the pet food websites ( http://www.animalfood.com/ ) that PETA has provided as an alternative to IAMS.

Do you guys know of a decent and reasonably priced dog food with a fairly wide distribution that I might look for locally?

and nature's variety are pretty widely available. i think you can find natural balance in the chain stores.

thanks :)

Check petfood store chain websites, such as PetSmart and PetFood Express. Avoid PetCo if you can as they are definitely NOT a cruelty-free chain and they have had numerous complaints against them. Be wary of PetSmart, but less so as they are actually concerned and they donate to animal causes as well as educate on cruelty issues.

In many cases, you can have dog or cat food sent to you by Fed Ex or other commercial courier (I'm blanking on the name of the company that refers to itself as "Brown"! Old age is a bitch!).

Search online. You can find it.

309

I don't really live near any big pet store chains like PetSmart or PetFood Express, but I can check their websites and explore the delivery thing. There are a couple local pet shops and a feed store that might carry some of these brands. I'll check it out.

I think "Brown" is UPS. Don't worry. We all have those moments. :)

Unfortunately I have to shop there--it's the only place in town that has supplies for my canister filter--but check this out: the other day I was looking at the fishes they sell. In one tank were Red-Belly Pacu and Albino Channel Catfish.

A Red-Belly Pacu is a characin that grows to two feet in height--not length, height. IIRC it grows to four feet in length.

A Channel Catfish can grow to well over a hundred pounds--people pull 60-pound channel cats out of the Cape Fear River on a fairly regular basis, an 80-pounder came out of that river last year, and the Cape Fear is not known for producing huge fish.

The two biggest aquariums Petsmart sells are a 150 Tall and a 125 Long. Neither of those two aquariums will hold any of the fish in that tank.

That's an extreme example, but check this out: They sell Plecostomus Catfish to all comers. It takes no encouragement at all to get a pleco to grow big--feed it and it will grow to a foot, no problem. If you have a ten-gallon aquarium you have no business with this fish, but they'll sell you three or four. (Even in a big tank more than one is a recipe for disaster; they're territorial.) Why they're not selling the shit out of upside-down catfish at twice the price (length at maturity 2 inches) is beyond me.

for its treatment of lizards. I'm not up on the details and, sad to say, still shop there because my dog loves it and I recognize that not everything in this world can be perfect. The stores in my area at least listen to any concerns we have. Iams will be the test... If they don't dump Iams until this horror is ended, I'll have to find somewhere else to go.

Didn't realize that about the fish... Thanks

I stand right beside you in this! We have been members of PeTA since 1983, shortly after it began, and we have seen the documentation of many of their investigations. They do NOT make unfounded accusations.

In the past they have been entangled with some pretty extremist groups, and as all organizations, they do not have sway over the activities of their membership. People who are sympathetic to groups such as the ALF or earth First may also be members of PeTA, but the group is not a terrorist group and never has been.

I wonder how many here who are throwing brickbats have EVER actually READ the magazines and articles by PeTA. How many are just repeating what *they* have heard from our "liberal press"?

I think THIS is one of the problems! The news coverage of PeTA is similar to the coverage of liberal causes! Conservative media creates a distrustful, conservative public IMAGE of PeTA.

Do we believe that the "liberal" media says about liberals? No!

Then why do so many buy it about PeTA?

Thanks again for your post!

309

Time and time again, when I corner the Peta bashers, it turns out they've never bothered to dig below the surface and do any real reading.

I can not understand the huge disconnect of people who say they love their animals and would KILL you if you ever hurt one of their kittens/puppies yet condone the atrocious, often gratuitious suffering of innocent animals in laboratories and industrialized farms. Sick. What if their pet was picked off the street and ended up in the Iams lab? How would they feel?

There are alternative methods of testing. It's time we shut up the apologists for the status quo and demand more researchers use those methods.


For nearly 10 months, PETA conducted an undercover investigation in an Iams contract laboratory. What our investigator witnessed and was able to capture on hidden camera would outrage any animal lover: dogs gone crazy from confinement to barren steel-and-cement cells, dogs left on a paint-chipped floor after having their vocal chords severed and part of their leg muscles hacked out; dogs who were sweltering in scorching heat and shivering in bitter cold; horribly sick dogs and cats languishing in their cages, neglected and left to suffer with no veterinary care. The dogs and cats in Iams� tests are no different from our dogs and cats at home when it comes to deserving companionship, play, a stimulating environment, and the right not to be tormented in painful experiments.

<snip>

We are calling on Iams to rely on non-animal, laboratory analysis and in-home tests using dogs and cats whose human companions have volunteered them for such tests. Right now, dogs and cats are suffering endlessly in concrete cells with no chance for exercise or stimulation just so that Iams can slap new claims onto its products and maintain its market share. It�s all about marketing. If Iams officials cared about the health and happiness of our companion animals, they would end this unnecessary testing immediately. They�ve proved that all they care about is profit.

<snip>

Iams lied to PETA repeatedly with promises to improve living conditions for the dogs in contract labs. Our investigation took place more than a year after Iams had promised to �raise the bar� on animal-welfare standards in its contract facilities and even assured us that enrichment programs were already in place, but our investigator knew better. At least 27 dogs were destroyed while other dogs had illnesses left untreated despite assurances in the Iams research policy, which specifically states that no animal in any Iams test will ever be deliberately killed.

Our video footage shows Iams representatives touring the facility and witnessing dogs� endless circling in barren cells in the sweltering heat. Iams officials knew the truth yet they lied. How can they be trusted to act in the best interests of the animals at this point? Our investigator fought for six months to have a single cheap, rubber toy placed in each dog�s cell. This is Iams� idea of �enrichment.� Once animal lovers become aware that they are financing the confinement and mutilation of dogs and cats, they simply won�t buy Iams food or propaganda.

<snip>
VIDEO HERE: http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=iams




Scene #3: A bloodied beagle is strapped down to an x-ray machine so that her muscle, fat, and bone density can be recorded.


Scene #4: One of the laboratory�s employees tells our investigator to hit the dogs on the chest if they stop breathing.


Scene #6: Anesthetics are administered to an Iams dog left unattended on the laboratory floor.


http://www.iamscruelty.com/iams-faq.asp

the teacher was quite passionate. The last 3 days of the class's meetings (pre-final) we discussed animal testing.......photos that still make me shudder - stories I cannot erradicate from my brain.

He never said WHY we were moving to this topic.......the more I matured the more I understood.

THINK

not only want humane treatment for animals, they value animals over humans. there is a big difference i believe.

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows … I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
— Bruce Friedrich, PETA’s vegan campaign coordinator, at the “Animal Rights 2001” conference


"Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it."
— PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk, in the September 1989 issue of Vogue

"Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective. We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a threat, and it works."
— Ingrid Newkirk, in the April 8, 2002 issue of US News & World Report

"Who cares if six million Jews died in concentration camps, when 6 billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses."
- Ingrid Newkirk, president, PETA

"The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration."
- Michael W. Fox, vice president, The Humane Society of the United States

"To those people who say, 'My father is alive because of animal experimentation,' I say, 'Yeah, well, good for you. This dog died so your father could live.' Sorry, but I am just not behind that kind of trade-off."
- Bill Maher, PETA celebrity spokesman

PETA definitely cares about animals, but they do often get things wrong.

I don't put any credibility in this story, because I know that although the corporate main offices of P&G are located in Ohio, the main labs that do research on Iams is done at a facility in Indiana. I know several vetinarians and toxicologists at that facility. (It is cheaper to have the facility there.) The location is not publicized--because they don't like dealing with people like PETA if at all possible.

Obviously this was created by someone not in the know who just wanted to stir up some trouble against P&G or IAMS.

It is not credible. However, I don't like P&G either--so boycott them if it feels good. But I like to be honest about it.

I recently terminated my long term association as a supporter of PETA. I did this because they were making attacks on people (and their gender and sexuality) which I did not agree with (their infamous Clay Aiken campaign--"get neutered--it didn't hurt Clay Aiken"). I pulled my advertising from their web site and now give my money to more worthy causes.

Ms. 309 here:

I've been a member of PETA for 20 years (joined in 1984 ).
They are by no means an extremist organization. In fact, they
are no longer an animal RIGHTS group, and are now really a
"hard welfare" group. Nor do they put animals "above" humans.

The quote on chickens by Newkirk is inaccurate. She compared
the deaths of humans and chickens, true, but she did not say
"who cares" about human deaths. PETA has always stressed that
humans are also animals, and has never supported any group
which advocated or carried out injuries on humans. Property
damage is something else; a bit of smashing up of property
has been part of activism in every progressive/radical movement
by the frustrated types in the vanguard. Sorry, but I can't
get too upset about trashing of the Stonewall Inn or the
White Night Riots when people are dying.

If one genuinely believes in animal rights then one must
believe that it is no more right to sacrifice healthy animals
for either humans OR other animals in medical tests than it
would be to sacrifice black humans for white humans.

PETA has never demanded that PETA members feed their companion
animals vegan food. My personal opinion is that if one takes
on the responsibility for a non-human life, one has the
obligation to provide optimum care, and that includes meat for
cats. Dogs can be healthy on a vegan diet, if people feel strongly
about it for ethical reasons. Several reputable pet-food
companies have designed vegan dog food, primarily for dogs with
severe food allergies. Again, my personal opinion is that if
one has strong ethical objections to feeding meat, one should
choose vegetarian companion animals, such as birds or rabbits.
However, humans have created the situation where cats and dogs
are dependent on us, and as long as they remain as domestic
animals, we must provide them with what they need. Ultimately,
for real animal rights supporters, that must mean an end to
domestic animals, including cats and dogs, that that is not
happening any time soon, and PETA is not suggesting it should.
Every issue of PETA's magazine had articles about proper care
of companion animals and about PETA's efforts to help them.

Uber-Menschen ALL the way! The suffering of any lower species, be it human or animal, is to be excused when it's for the greater good of the 'superior' species.

Once you make exceptions for respecting any form of animal life, the slope is slippery indeed.

Bush, the new Fuehrer of cretins everywhere, didn't think much of animal suffering either.

You can keep psychopath Bush & Dahmer-like followers who dismiss the sickest forms of torture as frat pranks. I'll stick with PETA.


The story � recounted with fondness by a Bush childhood friend in a long, flattering New York Times profile of Bush during the 2000 presidential election campaign � never became an issue on the campaign trail.

Despite psychiatric evidence that children who are cruel to animals often go on to be abusive adults, the U.S. media apparently decided that the torture of frogs was nothing more than a charming little anecdote from Dubya's early years. (Imagine what the media would make of a charming little childhood anecdote like that, if it were in Saddam Hussein's background.)

It should have at least been a clue that Bush � now the most powerful man in the world � has a taste for blowing things up, not to mention an insensitivity to suffering.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1215-03.htm

..If I took a class devoted to the Holocaust...and they talked about animals.

I love my cats... but to compare them to people in their deaths is rather
warped.

I will miss them as they pass, but nowhere near as much as I will the annoying children who live nextdoor.

was the slippery slope down whick people can slide when they ignore the intentional pain inflicted on other sentient beings.

Animal abuse - and benign acceptance of it are immoral.

In LEGITIMATE medical research the animals are cared for well.

90% of it is not.....re-running outdated tests - make-up and hair care trials....

Slippery slope........abu graib torture now 'abuse' or 'frat pranks'

PS - I am in NO WAY a vegitarian - but I will only eat Neiman Farms or other free-range /organic meat, dairy and eggs.

motherfuckers...

I can't even finish reading it.

Thanks Karmadillo for starting this thread. I changed my sig line because of it. Thanks


Below are brief summaries of what happens to some of the animals used in studies supported by Iams: All of which would not be the norm in a world in which vivisection was abolished.

1.. 28 CATS' BELLIES WERE CUT TO SEE THE EFFECT OF FEEDING THEM FIBRE, THEN THE CATS WERE KILLED - Bueno AR et al. (Nutrition Research, Vol 20. No.9, pp. 1319-1328, 2000)

2.. 24 YOUNG DOGS WERE INTENTIONALLY PUT INTO KIDNEY FAILURE; SUBJECTED TO INVASIVE EXPERIMENTATION, THEN KILLED - University of Georgia and The Iams Company. (White, JV, et al. Am J Vet Res 1991; Vol 52: No 8, pp 1357 - 1365)

3.. 31 DOGS' KIDNEYS WERE REMOVED TO INCREASE THE RISK OF KIDNEY DISEASE, THEN THEY WERE KILLED AND DISSECTED - University of Georgia and The Iams Company. (Finco, DR, et al. Am J Vet Res 1994; Vol 55: No 9, pp 1282-1290)

4.. BONES IN 18 DOGS' FRONT AND BACK LEGS WERE CUT OUT AND STRESSED UNTIL THEY BROKE - University of Wisconsin and The Iams Company. (Crenshaw TD. et al. Proceeding of 1998 Iams Nutrition Symposium)

5.. 10 DOGS WERE KILLED TO STUDY THE EFFECT OF FIBER IN DIETS - Mississippi State University and The Iams Company. (Buddington, RK, et al. Am J Vet Res 1999; Vol 60: No 3, pp 354-358)

6.. 18 MALE PUPPIES' KIDNEYS WERE CHEMICALLY DAMAGED; EXPERIMENTAL DIETS WERE FED; TUBES WERE INSERTED IN THEIR PENISES, THEN THE PUPPIES WERE KILLED - Colorado State University and The Iams Company. (Grauer, GF, et al. Am J Vet Res 1996; Vol 57: No 6, pp 948-956)

7.. 8 DOGS' KIDNEYS WERE REMOVED TO STUDY THE EFFECT OF PROTEIN ON RECOVERY FROM KIDNEY REMOVAL - University of Georgia and The Iams Company. (Journal of Veterinary Internal Medicine, American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine)

8.. 28 CATS WERE SURGICALLY FORCED INTO KIDNEY FAILURE AND EITHER DIED DURING THE EXPERIMENT OR WERE KILLED TO STUDY THE EFFECTS OF PROTEIN - University of Georgia and The Iams Company. (Proceedings of the 1998 Iams Nutrition Symposium)

9.. 15 DOGS' BELLIES WERE CUT OPEN; TUBES WERE ATTACHED TO THEIR INTESTINES, THE CONTENTS OF WHICH WERE PUMPED OUT EVERY 10 MINUTES FOR TWO HOURS, THEN THE DOGS WERE KILLED - University of Nebraska-Lincoln and The Iams Company. (Hallman, JE, et al. Nutrition Research 1996; Vol 16: No 2, pp 303-313)

10.. 16 DOGS' BELLIES WERE CUT OPEN AND PARTS OF THEIR INTESTINES TAKEN - University of Alberta and The Iams Company. (1998 Journal of the American Society of Nutritional Sciences)

11.. HEALTHY PUPPIES, CHICKS, AND RATS HAD BONE AND CARTILAGE REMOVED TO STUDY BONE AND JOINT DEVELOPMENT - Purdue University and The Iams Company. (Proceedings of the 2000 Iams Nutrition Symposium)

12.. INVASIVE PROCEDURES WERE USED TO STUDY BACTERIA IN 16 DOGS' INTESTINES - Texas A&M University and The Iams Company. (Willard MD et al. Am J Vet Res, Vol 55, No. 5, May 1994)

13.. 24 CATS HAD THEIR FEMALE ORGANS AND PARTS OF THEIR LIVERS REMOVED; WERE MADE OBESE, THEN WERE STARVED - University of Kentucky and The Iams Company. (Ibrahim WH. et al. AJVR, Vol 61, No. 5, May 2000)

14.. 56 DOGS HAD THEIR FEMALE ORGANS REMOVED TO STUDY BETA CAROTENE - Washington State University and The Iams Company. (Weng, BC, et al. J.Anim.Sci.2000. 78:1284-1290)

15.. 16 DOGS' BELLIES WERE REPEATEDLY CUT TO TAKE PARTS OF THEIR INTESTINES - Texas A&M and The Iams Company. (Willard, MD, et al. JAVMA 1994. 8:1201-1206)

16.. 6 DOGS HAD TUBES IMPLANTED INTO THEIR INTESTINES AND FLUID DRAINED REPEATEDLY TO STUDY CEREAL FLOURS - University of Illinois and The Iams Company. (Murray, SM, et al. J.Anim.Sci.1999. 77:2180-2186)

17.. 30 DOGS WERE WOUNDED AND PATCHES OF SKIN CONTAINING THE WOUNDS REMOVED TO STUDY WOUND-HEALING - Auburn University and The Iams Company. (Mooney, MA, et al. Am J Vet Res 1998; Vol 59: No 7, pp 859-863)

18.. 5 DOGS' BELLIES WERE CUT OPEN AND TUBES WERE INSERTED FROM THEIR INTESTINES TO THE OUTSIDE OF THEIR BODIES TO STUDY THE EFFECTS OF FIBER - University of Illinois and The Iams Company. (Muir, HE, et al. J.Anim.Sci.1996. 74:1641-1648)

19.. PARTS OF 28 DOGS' LARGE INTESTINES WERE REMOVED TO STUDY THE EFFECTS OF FIBER - University of Missouri and The Iams Company. (Howard, MD, et al. J.Anim.Sci. 1997. 75(Suppl. 1); 136)

20.. PARTS OF 16 DOGS' INTESTINES AND IMMUNE SYSTEM WERE CUT OUT TO STUDY THE EFFECTS OF FIBER - University of Alberta and The Iams Company. (Proceedings of the 1998 Iams Nutrition Symposium)

21.. 5 DOGS HAD TISSUE FROM LARGE AND SMALL INTESTINES REMOVED TO STUDY INTESTINAL TRACT NEEDS - University of Illinois and The Iams Company. (Proceedings of the 1998 Iams Nutrition Symposium)

22.. 8 HEALTHY DOGS HAD TUBES INSERTED THROUGH THEIR CHESTS TO STUDY FAT ABSORPTION - The Ohio State University and The Iams Company. (Proceedings of 2000 Iams Nutrition Symposium)

23.. SECTIONS OF 36 DOGS' SKINS WERE CUT OUT TO STUDY EFFECTS OF DIET ON FUR - Texas A&M and The Iams Company. (Proceedings of 2000 Iams Nutrition Symposium)

24.. 14 PUPPIES WERE INJECTED WITH SUBSTANCES THAT GAVE THEM LIFE-LONG ALLERGIES, MADE THEM SICK, AND GAVE THEM DIARRHOEA - University of Calgary and The Iams Company. (Proceedings of 2000 Iams Nutrition Symposium) Please contact Iams to let them know your disgust at these animal experiments. Phone them on 0800 426 785 or email customer.service@Iams.com. <mailto:customer.service@Iams.com.> <mailto://customer.service@Iams.com.> This was from the Announcement from Managers of sKy FlYeR

http://www.animalsrighttolifewebsite.com/the_low_down_on_iams.htm

I had no idea about this kind of stuff, but I quit feeding IAMS a few years ago when the company sold and the product quality went downhill. My cat's coat began to take on that roughness that I associate with poor nutrition--and I KNEW the brand of food had not changed.

THAT was when I put the cat on new food...

Laura

I don't believe a word they say. Ever.

a list of the organization's historic victories. Additional victories can be found here. If only the Democrats could be as half as successful on behalf of their constituents.

http://www.peta.org/about/milestones.html

1981

PETA�s undercover investigation of a Maryland laboratory results in the first-ever conviction of an animal experimenter on charges of animal abuse and the first-ever suspension of federal research funds for cruelty.

1982

PETA files the first-ever lawsuit to become the guardian of animals used in experiments.

1983

PETA closes a Department of Defense �wound lab� in which the military had planned to fire high-velocity missiles into dogs, goats, and other animals. PETA achieves the first-ever permanent ban on the shooting of dogs and cats in wound labs.

1984

PETA releases more than 70 hours of graphic videotape footage from the University of Pennsylvania head-injury laboratory, documenting the cruel treatment of primates there. Protests by PETA lead the secretary of health and human services to cut off all funding to the laboratory, and the experiments are stopped after a 14-year history of baboon abuse.

PETA closes down a Texas slaughterhouse operation where 30,000 horses are trucked in annually from all over the United States and left to starve in frozen fields without shelter.

1985

PETA uncovers gross mistreatment of dogs and other animals at the City of Hope laboratory in California. The government fines the center $11,000 and suspends more than $1,000,000 in federal funding to the lab.

1986

PETA stops total-isolation confinement of chimpanzees at a Maryland research laboratory called SEMA. PETA launches a national �Save the Chimps� Campaign that gains the support of many international scientists, including Dr. Jane Goodall, who calls her tour of the SEMA lab �the worst experience of my life.�

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