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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:29 AM
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I'm now convinced Josh Marshall's "bombshell" involves Plamegate
I've been thinking about this, and here's why I'm confident this is the case:

1) The buzz in D.C. is about pending indictments in Plamegate. We're talking high-level people in the Bush WH, folks. This is Watergate redux. You can be damn sure every journalist in D.C. wants to be the one to break the story of who's getting indicted and for what, Josh included.

2) There are clues in his post. He says he hasn't been able to share the "delectable tidbits" he usually does because he needs to keep it under wraps, for obvious reasons. If you look at his blog, what issue HASN'T he written about for the past few weeks? Plamegate. Also, he mentions the issue in the news "now" is Iraq, implying that some OTHER issue will be front and center soon.

(BTW, don't worry about the lack of stories on this in the mainstream media. This investigation has been conducted the way it should be, with no grand jury leaks that could compromise it.)

I expect this will break very soon.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:31 AM
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1. I'm glad justice will finally be served
No matter how the right wingers try to spin it, outing Plame was against the interest of the US. It was a crime. If Shrub tries to suppress the indictments, he will be in trouble-spooks have looong memories.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:32 AM
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2. Don't hold your breath
waiting for some bombshell after which millions of Americans will suddenly arouse themselves and say "how could I have ever supported that little dipshit?"
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:38 AM
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7. It's not just Marshall's blog that leads me
to this conclusion. Sources in the CIA and DOJ say indictments are pending. The story of Bush lawyering up had major significance that the media by and large missed.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:46 AM
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12. Too young to remember Nixon?
My stepfather was a conservative. Deeply conservative.

One day he admitted to me that Nixon might have done something wrong. Within 48 hours, Nixon resigned.

It takes a while. It takes lots of evidence. But people now know Bush is a liar. Everything will follow from that.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:57 AM
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15. Nixon resigned - he wasn't voted out of office
your stepdad probably would have still voted for RN had he been forced to choose beteen him and say Kennedy, McGovern or Muskie. Most people in this country realize by now that Iraq was a war of choice rather than necessity - and that it was a mistake. That won't prevent many of them from pulling the lever for Bush in Novemeber.

I'm feeling very negative today.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 12:06 PM
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17. If the Bush WH comes under indictement, it won't matter...
...how much blind stupid faith freeptards have in them. The powers that be will cut the albatross from around their necks.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:32 AM
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3. I agree with you, this has always been the worse offense Bush
has committed in the WH, but I still think there's going to be the story regarding Cheney and Scalia coming out. I have a feeling this will be the first time in history a Supreme Court Justice is removed along with of course, the whole Bush circus leaving town.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:38 AM
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6. oh, I so hope they get Chaingang & Scuzlia...
then they may get the crooked federal judges in my state that have been hunting with scalia for the last several years. It's a good ole boys club in our federal judiciary and the usa is so wrapped up with 'em it is scary. There have been political indictments of wealthy dem supporters that other dems are sitting on their hands, it is so unbelievable. Please let it all come out so we can clean house, oh please.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:48 AM
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13. Why? Is someone investigating it?
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:35 AM
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4. What I'm really concerned about....
Is that the bush sleaze team will be able to bury it, step around it, discredit it, spin it, and slide it under the table somehow.

Yes, I know the seriousness of the charges. Lying to congress and the American people is also MIGHTY SERIOUS!! But they've skated on all of it! Even if Cheney himself is indicted, I think the media will give him a free pass, and only a handful of DUers and Hill correspondents will give a flip.

This corrupt regime has EVERYONE in their pocket, OR they will threaten or "suicide" whoever isn't on board.

Formerly, I was really hopeful something would bring them down, but I don't think it's gonna happen anymore.

Gawd, I hope I'm WRONG!!!

:kick::kick::kick:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:41 AM
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10. That's why the investigation has been so shrouded in secrecy
as grand jury investigations should be. Any leak would give the WH ammunition to discredit Fitzgerald.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:41 AM
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11. Don't the French want to indict Chainboy (which is why they started
the anti-French sentiment)? Maybe the US indictment will coincide with French and the two at one time will be hard for him to get beyond?
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 12:00 PM
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16. Yeah I see your point.
There have been so many things that would've taken anyone else down. But after innoculating themselves with the Clinton witchunt and a bought and paid for media, the BFEE has been above the law for what seems forever. The one thing that keeps me positive is that ALL regimes eventually come crashing down, every last one of them.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:35 AM
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5. I will believe it when I see it
in addition there is a 50/50 chance that if something does break, the corporate media will minimize it
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:39 AM
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8. I'm hoping for a break in the Plame Affair too...
... but when indictments get handed down, they're either sealed (in which case no one sees them) or they are not (and they are public, anyone can break that story).

Maybe it has something to do with Cheney's Energy Task Force. There's reason to believe that fat criminal was dividing up Iraq's oil fields in 2001!
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:40 AM
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9. Well I Hope It's soon
Anticipation.
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sally343434 Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:57 AM
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14. "Reason to believe?"
> There's reason to believe that fat criminal was dividing up
> Iraq's oil fields in 2001!


This was revealed last year (and summarily suppressed by the corporate media). Here are the Energy Task Force's actual documents where the Iraqi oil fields are, indeed, being carved up for the oil companies in March, 2001:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/071703.c_.shtml
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 12:35 PM
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19. Yep, that's what I was talking about.
Another bigger-than-Watergate scandal to throw on the pile.
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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 12:10 PM
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18. Folks this is much much worse than Watergate
The outing of a high level undercover agent is a much more serious crime than what the Watergate burglars committed. If this is what it is purported to be and Bush/Cheney are named. It is game set and match for these hooligans. Hasta la vista - scumbags!
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