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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:46 AM
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Beinart (New Republic) "Liberal" WUSS for Sure
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 08:58 AM by UTUSN
He was on C-SPAN this A.M. shamelessly taking "credit" for TNR cover story, "WERE WE WRONG?" (not "We WERE Wrong") about the illegal and gratuitous Iraq attack. When the host asked him to answer his own question, he hedged that "we don't know yet" and went on to justify the Shrubbites by saying their noble goals might be "redeemed" even yet, that the problem has been the execution, all the things that "went wrong".

He also said, OUTRAGEOUSLY, that he can't project "what a second (Shrub) term might be like"-----------he CAN'T?? How come thousands of DUers here, without any access to inside, investigative information KNOW EXACTLY what an effing ANTI-DEMOCRACY GUTTING it will be???

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amen1234 New Republic Editors 'Regret' Their Support of Iraq War (WP) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x632880

legin 9. "We were wrong ... just very slightly"
would be a better title for this crap.

You'll notice the actual title is "We Were Wrong?".

That little question mark makes all the difference to what they are saying in the title.

Bastards ? (irony)

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bushwakker 10. Amazing isn't it

I'm just an avaerage citizen. I have no foreign policy credentials. I've never served as a diplomat. I don't have an advanced degree in Middle East or foreign studies from the Ivy Leagues or Georgetown. Hell, I've never even travelled to the middle east (or Europe for that matter). I have no "inside sources" in Capitol Hill or the WH or in the diplomatic community. How is it that a moron like me knew these fuckers were lying about Iraq and all these "smart" people got taken in? To paraphrse a Sy Hersh article in the New Yorker in regards to Chalabi's playing of the Us Gov't - "they got suckered because they wanted to get suckered". Screw TNR trying to cover their ass now.

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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:55 AM
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1. Their circulation has been declining since the War began
They deserve this completely. The thing that ticks me off, is that Salon is packaging their subscription with an offer of a free subscription to TNR. Why the hell help them do better in the circulation ratings when there are periodicals and pundits that knew better, are so much more insightful and deserving then the TNR bozos. Robert Dreyfuss is having to work for the pathetic alt publication Tom Paine. Life sure hell ain't fair!
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:58 AM
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3. Come now
Tom Paine may not be "big time" or well funded, but it's not pathetic. It has truth on its side, unlike TNR, as you point out so well in your post.:-)
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:01 AM
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4. I think people as dead on as Dreyfuss deserve jobs in the
mainstream press where ordinary Americans will see them. Not only do they deserve those positions, but Americans deserve better than the neocon pundit monopoly.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:56 AM
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2. Beinart is horrible
but of course he is a favorite of the whore media. They LOVE,LOVE,LOVE any self proclaimed "liberal" who will prop up * and his regime. The fact that even now he won't just say he and his rag were wrong speaks volumes.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:07 AM
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5. He Was VERY Concerned about "restoring credibility" for Shrub
When he was asked about a 2nd Shrub mal-administration, what if POWELL is out, what about CHEENEE out, then Condo IN as SoS-------he said that perhaps Shrub would have to reach out BEYOND the insular NeoCon stranglehold (my words, not his)--------HAH! Yeah, just like Selecting him would cause him to "play to the middle" instead of being the pathological wingnut EXTREMIST he is.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:20 AM
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6. simple question
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 09:21 AM by senseandsensibility
Why would a liberal be interested in helping a lying incompentent Repug who stole the election maintain his credibility? Or does Beinart not even claim to be a liberal anymore?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 09:38 AM
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7. At Least Tweety Admits
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 09:38 AM by UTUSN
the following: 1) "I'm not the Dem I used to be anymore," 2) Voted for Shrub, 3) "This is not the CLINTON corner, in case you haven't been watching for a couple of years."
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