Quibble Quabble Squibble Squabble!

"Waahhh! Clenis is stealing Kerry's thunder!"

"Waaahh! Clenis and Hitlery are saving the Oval for themselves in 2008!"

"Waaahh! I got a saggy diaper that leaks!"

I'm so sick of this shit I could scream, if it wasn't against the terms of my probation to scream in public.

Folks, don't buy the FAUX News line. The Bill and The Hill are good Dems. Even if you don't like the DLC, which is valid, you HAVE to admit they're the best thing to happen to the Party in 50 years. If it weren't for the 22nd Amendment, WJC would be serving his third of nine consecutive terms.

Does Hillary want to be President? Well, hell, do Kennedy women always keep a black dress handy? Of COURSE she does. But would she sabotage the party, the country, perhaps the PLANET for it? To believe that she would, you have to buy the FAUX line that she's a Machiavellian shrew, instead of the dedicated public servant she has proved herself to be. She'll be President in 2012. Count on it.

Would WJC sabotage a Democratic Presidential Candidate? Well, to believe THAT, you'd have to believe all the above crap about Hillary. WJC could have given Gore an undisputable victory (instead of the mere victory he obtained) in 2000, if ONLY he had been ALLOWED to contribute.

Think about that for a moment... we WON in 2000, and STILL the Chimp is occupying the Oval. We WON. Imagine what the margin would have been if Gore had allowed the finest orator of the 20th Century to campaign for him!

WJC is not yet 60 years old! He STILL has a legacy to build, I don't mean a Carter-type legacy of good works, or a Nixon-type legacy of good books. (I hate to praise Nixon, but the man was a political master. Also a felon. Possibly a sheep-fucker. I digress.) I mean WJC can be a Senator, a Mayor... perhaps a Chief Justice of the United States. This is NOT a man about to fuck the party.

The conspiracy theories are floated by OxyChub and Insannity and FAUX. When you repeat them credulously and say OMG!, you lend them undeserved credibility. The Clintons are ON BOARD. They were on board before most of us were born. So grow up.

Embrace the Clintons. They will be advising Democrats, and Democratic Presidents, for 30 years or more.

sails. Kerry is not even on the radar for the "media" and it might be better for him at this point. Bush* is doing an excellent job of screwing himself up. We must help him, and I think Clinton's presence in some many outlets makes people remember how it felt to have a PRESIDENT and not a pResident in the oval office.
I didn't particularly LOVE him when he was president... too "centrist" for me. BUT NOW, seeing him, I get this warm and fuzzy feeling remembering his presidency.

He is a great speaker who can say things Kerry can't.

I feel in my heart that he is on board and will do everything *KERRY WANTS HIM TO* to get Kerry elected. He can speak like nobody else and like him or not, when Clinton speaks, people listen.

He will do what Kerry wants and I predict he will selectively campaign in states where he is likely to make a difference for Kerry. That could be battleground states talking about the economy or southern states.

I would rather people post stuff about their favorite sport or band than continue to put down democrats or bring up the VP question one more time......post jokes or cartoons if you just have to post something....

It's not just tedious to see all these "Shut Up Clenis" threads, it's the fact that we don't appreciate what an asset we have. And an asset that a lot of us want to WASTE.

WJC was a master of the game, a consummate politician and a truly good man. He has his failings... but he's never even been ACCUSED of malfeasance of office! The accusations against him were for PERSONAL failings, never official! All the Pugs could bring to bear on him were vague accusations of "unsuitability." The man has spent his life SAVING LIVES... saving people born to poverty, born to hopelessness, born to despair.

WJC reminded this country what it means to be loving and compassionate, even in the face of adversity. Don't begrudge him a two-week book tour.

he did nafta which is why we have the great sucking sound of jobs leaving the usa now....and he did welfare reform.....without giving people living wages unless subsidized by the government....

but your right, they never had a shread of evidence on him except moral....which is their whole ideology...they want to CONTROL everyones morals.....to their standards....

they say they want smaller government....that is smaller in they will give you less...

they want bigger government in that they want to take every thing from you...they don't want you to think.....no choices about marriage, or sexual orientation, or having a baby ....they want to control your body and how you use it....and if they think what you are doing is immorall.....they are much more concerned with that ....

then TRUE christian teachings of humanity.....they are not christian in action.....

I embrace the Clintons, especially Hillary. I believe they can still do wonders for the party, especially Hillary.

That said, enshrining them and putting them off-limits from scrutiny and frank and honest debate about just how "on-board" they are is not advisable; potentially dangerous. I believe I'll read his book and continue to take him on statements he makes PUBLICLY, right during an election cycle, and book tour, oddly enough. Statements like this one:

"I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over," WJC, the almighty.

Why should statements like this be beyond our scrutiny and discussion? No one says he's deliberately sabotaging the party, but WTF?!?!

it's intended for the swing voters/ status-quo voters.

the DNC strategy is obvious. anybody with a lick of sense is voting for Kerry. they can take that for granted, and cater to the swing voters.

it WILL work this time. 1n 2000 we didn't have an incumbent - much less a Bush.

The President cannot directly criticize the Resident. It's just not done. It's potentially inflammatory. They are a Very Exclusive Club. I happen to approve of the unwritten rules they have. Criticizing party is allowed, criticizing policy is tlerated, but direct criticism of a sitting Resident, or even President, by a former President, weakens the office and the nation, now and forever.

George W. Bush is NOT a legitimate President... but, as Resident, he holds ALL the powers of President... and more powers than any ELECTED President before him, thanks to the gutting of the Constitution.

(Moment of silence in Memory of the Constitution.)

We can't have 3 or 5 or 10 Presidents espousing American Policy. Once a President, or even a Resident, embarks on a course of action, all prior Presidents will support him. This is history, this is unspoken agreement, and this is correct.

....yet we have to hear how the CLENIS destroyed our chance?! :wtf:

I don't think attention to Clinton can hurt the Kerry campaign.

Did Jimi Hendrix steal attention from the Beatles?

--IMM

Maybe you can present us with a list of topics that you think we should post about.

focused on him and gives Kerry the chance to communicate
with the people without having to play defense all the
time.

That's a win-win situation, AFAIC.

And not because I'm a narcissist! Which I am!

This needs saying:

THE BIG DAWG IS ON CBS TONIGHT. WATCH.

THE BIG DAWG'S BOOK COMES OUT NEXT WEEK. BUY.

THE BIG DAWG WILL SPEAK AT THE CONVENTION NEXT MONTH. ENJOY.

THE BIG DAWG WILL HELP ELECT PRESIDENT KERRY. GLOAT.

Do your whining in December. Anybody not on board NOW is no better than a Pug.