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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:06 AM
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Wolfowitz on the hot seat NOW (10am EST) C-Span3
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 09:05 AM by nostamj
House Armed Services Committee www.c-span.org
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:08 AM
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1. wooo hooooo
I am looking forward to seeing him get his ass kicked. Go Teddy Go Teddy!
Too bad they can't allow Robert Byrd to question him. Can you imagine the shots that brave man would shoot across the bow?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:27 AM
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2. Let me tell you, watched the Daily Show's clip on PAABAH and now
watching the caricature of a man that is Wolfowitz... I don't know where our country is going... because I want to laugh histerically at both PAABAH and Wolfowitz... but then I realize that they ARE FOR REAL and both represent enormous dangers to our security and survival.

This guy spuns lies like cotton candy....
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:28 AM
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3. By the way, I think that Moore has pictures of Iraq pre-war... that
should put to rest Wolfowitz statement that SADDAM was the one that destroyed Iraq and WE ARE THE SAINTS rebuilding it!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:32 AM
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4. ok, I missed something
who/what is PAABAH? new one on me.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:36 AM
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5. This is the RW group of nutjobs that want to forbid people to watch
movies that they consider "left leaning" or where actors/directors/ etc. who they consider offending to RW ideals and PATRIOTISM. Censorship of sinful, communistic Hollywood is their enemy.
There is another thread on DU that takes you to the Daily Show showing this group for what they are. It is funny, but if you think it through, it is repulsive. That they are crazy, ignorant, stupid, etc. etc. doesn't mean they are not dangerous.
Here is the GD thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1833188
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:43 AM
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7. thanks!

Should be named Propagandists Protesting Presumed Propaganda
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:04 AM
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10. They switched to C-Span 3 at 10:00 to cover the House. n/t
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:37 AM
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6. We might get some truth: General Pace is testifying. I wonder why
they continue allowing him to show up. He responds truthfully to committee questions...
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:58 AM
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8. Skelton's delivery of question is so mild, low key, that it loses impact.
The questions are very good, but they kind of vaaaniiiiishhhh... and Wolfowitz tries to pretend he didn't hear them. I am glad that Skelton goes back to them and asks again. But if he were more forceful, he would have more time to ask questions.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:01 AM
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9. Skelton asking "where did the money we gave Chalabi?" since
we found out he lied to us and he seems to be acting against US interests...
Wolfowitz: we will provide the senate a classified accounting of the money (SURE, SURE, we believe that) But Chalabi has helped us a lot. AND HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE PAID MONEY TO...now he tells us, of course we didn't suspect this, did we????
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:04 AM
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11. And now he's gone.
Just in time! Thanks C-SPAN.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:05 AM
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12. Wolfowitz was forced to admit the USA will be in charge of the
military, not the Iraqis.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:06 AM
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13. Now repug Weldon at the bat: I am not going to second guess
the decisions because I supported it and I am very impressed with what has been done.
NOW TALKING ABOUT IRAN... I bet he wants to attack Iran now.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:09 AM
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15. This guy has the gall to say that Afghanistan "is stabilizing" and
Iraq is getting a new government. It threatens Iran because, I guess he is implying, freedom is surrounding Iran....
This guy is trash.
In his opinion we are not putting enough attention on Iran.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:07 AM
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14. Curt Weldon (Repig)
Says all problems in Iraq can be attributed to Iranian regime. The threat of a free Iraq scares Iran, so Iran is destabilizing Iraq.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:41 AM
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56. yeah, and the civil rights movement came from
outside agitators from the north.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:14 AM
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16. Wolfowitz has so much gall! We have done such a spanking EXCELLENT
job in Iraq that it inspires fear (and, he would probably say, envy, seeing as to how Iraq is not the "shining city on the hill") in Iran and all the other surrounding countries.
In my opinion they are terrified because the mess we have created is going to spill all over the ME.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:19 AM
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17. John Spratt (D) asked a good question: if the army becomes strong
in Iraq who guarantees that they won't develop another general (I think he meant another Saddam) that will overrun the "established government" and take over.
Wolfowitz doesn't know how many Iraqis are enough, BUT THE IRAQI ARMY IS BEING DESIGNED TO ATTACK IRAQIS NOT EXTERNAL FORCES.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:23 AM
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18. Important for the header readers, IRAQI army trained to ATTACK Iraqis...
The reason is because they have so many insurgents. Let me tell you, I come from a country where the army ONLY duty has been to attack the population... what a sad picture.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:23 AM
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19. dupe... darn slow connection (it is cable but I am watching on the web)
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 09:24 AM by LittleApple81
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:24 AM
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20. Wolfowitz -- Iraq Needs BIOMETRIC ID Cards
(Paraphrase) In the long run, the borders are the Iraqis' responsiblity, but because the borders are so easy to cross they need BIOMETRIC cards for Iraqis.

I may be off on what he said, but that's what I swear I just heard him say.

(CSPAN 3 10:20 AM ET)

Yep, he's saying they need biometric IDS in Iraq.

Strangely enough, I don't think that will go down so well with the people of Iraq.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:42 AM
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29. Which Senators jumped up at that point...
to call him a lunatic?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:28 AM
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21. Saxton R-NJ - All repugs say we have attained so much progress in
Iraq: American people are not aware because they have no access to the information???
Another statement of: what do you want to believe, me or your lying eyes?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:31 AM
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22. what the hell is he chewing on?!?
wtf? It looks like he is chewing his tongue. Gross me out! What a fucking pig... :puke:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:32 AM
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23. if you're lucky...
maybe he'll lick his comb too...

(that's in F911)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:43 AM
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32. eeeeewwww!
he is beyond creepy... Yuck!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:34 AM
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25. The chairman doesn't want Abercrombie to ask for ANSWERS.
Wolfowitz is always going around and around to avoid answering. Joint command, force commander... I GOT LOST!!! HELP.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:32 AM
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24. Abercrombie (D-Hawaii) caught a typo... something about gangs?
missed what happened. But he said "instead of reading it appears I am proofreading".
He has not gotten answers from previous sessions with Wolfowitz:
WHO IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE: prosecutions, jails, special operations, Iraqi intervention forces in civilian areas. WHO IS GOING TO BE ISSUING THE ORDERS WHEN VIOLENCE IS GOING TO INCREASE.

He is citing South Korea.
Abercrombie says: we are not talking about South Korea and it is not a parallel situation.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:35 AM
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26. Anybody understood what Wolfowitz said? I got lost....
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:38 AM
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27. Wolfowitz is a piece of shit and he just can't seem to answer a question..
Abercrombie is getting pissed and tired of Wolfie using Bosnia and Korea examples instead of Iraq facts
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:40 AM
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28. Bosnia, South Korea...Abercrombie is right: talk about Iraq... we
are not talking about Bosnia or South Korea.
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:43 AM
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31. Somebody should jump up and start pounding one of those smug
Republican pieces of shit. They could care less about death and destruction they are promoting - all they seem to care about is protecting their power base (the * team of MORONS)
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:42 AM
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30. John McHugh R NY - pissed at the Democrats for asking about
an exit strategy... Says what is the exit strategy from Germany.

Having a lot of German friends, this was not needed for Germany. The USA was there to fight the godless USSR.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:45 AM
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33. Wolfowitz calls the secret policy in old Iraq "the Gestapo" because
the real name would not mean anything to us. He might explain to the American Public: "The Gestapo, you know, what we want to have in America. With the help of all the branches of government, especially lovely Ashcroft."
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:46 AM
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34. What is a "Free and Democratic Iraq????" I still don't know what
the BushCo definition of this is.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:47 AM
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35. Pace is trying to specify what WE NEED... this sounds more realistic.
He says this should be event driven and not calendar driven. But my questions: events have to have a schedule, don't they?
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:48 AM
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36. Yawn, this moron automaton can't actually provide any information...
He says "democracy" is about freedom and transparency when he refers to Iraq - but HE WON'T PROVIDE THE SAME FOR HIS OWN DEMOCRACY!! What a friggin hypocrite!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:50 AM
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37. Snyder (D AK) - e-mail received says that there are RESOURCE
problems, with spare parts.
Pace said that the congress has given enough money. Which is not an answer.
Snyder says: then this problem in the e-mail is a spotty problem, not systemic. Pace said that that is the case. Hmmmmm
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:51 AM
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38. Snyder: are we on track now to get the troops equipped, given the
problems we talked about with you (Wolf.) before?

Snyder says: apparently we are having problems with THE CONTRACTING side.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:54 AM
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39. Wolfowitz: competitive bidding is what has caused the problems
with the supplemental allocation??? It takes too much time???
WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!!!
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:56 AM
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41. Can you believe - knowing that people will likely be found guilty
of some wrong doing WRT previous NO BID contracts, this SUPREME ASS HOLE has the FUCKING NERVE to complain about competitive bidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a PIECE OF SHIT ROYALE!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:55 AM
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40. Snyder: You are not providing any of the reports we have requested from
you...
Misleading, not putting everything out on the table so we can regain the moral authority on the different issues (especially the ones related to ICRC)
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:58 AM
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42. Snyder: are you telling us that the ICRC has told you that we should
not see the reports in the Senate?
Answer: mumble, mumble, jumble... we have no intention to hide the reports. WTF???? (I have noticed that I start using bad words after a few minutes of watching these jokers' performance. I apologize in advance)
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:00 AM
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43. Yawn, another good for nothing Republican
Rob Simmons - asking a decent question as to whether we have what is takes to "stay the course" LOL
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:00 AM
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44. Rob Simmons (R-Conn.) talking about religious fanatics trying to
dominate the world... or some such crap.
Mr. Simmons: please look at the WH and your fellow fundi party members. Those are the ones with such an agenda.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:01 AM
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45. You can see that Wolf. laps up the chance given to him by every Repug that
asks questions. Blah, blah, blah, blah, It is an unholy alliance.

We have the unholy Fundies who want to nuke the ME!!!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:03 AM
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46. Simmons wants to relinquish any supervisory power that the House of
Representatives has over the armed forces!!!!!
We cannot have over 500 commanders... WTF! WTF! WTF!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:07 AM
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48. It makes me wonder: with a Dem president, will he still WANT TO RELINQUISH
this.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:05 AM
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47. Tauscher D-CA - Says general Pace was right about metrics.
If Wolf. is using Bosnia as an example, and Bosnia was an "easier situation" where we have been for 8 years, How many years does he foresee for the USA in Iraq?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:09 AM
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49. She reached the same conclusion I did!! troops in Germany and
South Korea was not the same reason as Iraq.
WOLFOWITZ wants us to be PATIENT otherwise the enemy will win because they think we will leave like in Beirut.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:10 AM
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50. How can LIARWITZ even mention Afghanistan as a place where things
are going well???
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:13 AM
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51. Schrock - R VA - How, but how, could anybody dare question competency
of the pentagon. How dare you, how dare you, how dare you?????

The presidential campaign is so negative (UUUUUHHHHH??? idiot, have you read the tally of negativity???)
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:16 AM
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52. We are not under obligation to follow the Edicts of the Iraqi government..
We hope that we could convince them that is not wise, but if they want to follow their edicts with the resources they have they will be free to do so.

Key here: resources.... We stole everything... nothing left... they have to come to us.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:16 AM
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53. I am leaving the reporting now. I CANNOT HACK IT ANYMORE!!!
I will be listening and puking in the bathroom.
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:17 AM
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54. These morons have "Vietnam syndrome"
n/m
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:31 AM
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55. THREE TIMES he said that Saddam was haboring '93 WTC bomber
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 10:32 AM by underpants
This has been debunked over and over. The guy they "harbored" was in jail and was offered as trade bait repeatedly, no takers. The FBI questioned the guy and determined after a short period of time that he was not too bright and was just an extra set of hands. They drove him back to the apartment building he shared with his mother or grandmother and the same one that just happened to be where the bombers lived, they got him to go along with them and used him to load the bomb into the van. No material importance.
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