OK, let's make some generalizations about the North....

#1. Seems like the operators of the electrical grid, perhaps particularly those portions around Lake Erie, are less competent than the operators of electrical grids in the South, where summer temperatures go above 90F every year, and at times are expected to exceed 100F. Every year the Southeast U.S. experiences afternoon peak power demands that are occasioned by the near-universal use of air-conditioning and the every-year occurrence of 95+F temperatures! The infrastructure down here has been planned for these occurrences. The TVA is a big part of that planning. By the way, a Democrat, Franklin Delano Roosevelt along with Harold Ickes, planned the TVA.

Since we're still embroiled in South-bashing threads, I thought that it might be time to have a cozy little thread about Northern incompetence, especially at a time when the lights are on and the computers are running in Dixie, but not up North. Mmmm-kay?!

#2. It's usually Northerners that make assumptions about the South, and not vice versa. I'm one of the unusual ones who has dared to make turnabout into fair play.

turnpikes are scary.

my repug aunts from New Hampshire thought we still fought
Indians over in Oregon.

Snow sucks.

Hmm. I hate bashing a region.

I luv Philly cheesesteak! It's delicious. I also luv a NY-style pizza!!!!!

But lemme tell ya....New Englanders can't make a pizza if their life depended on it!

And, it's not the NewYawkers or the folks in Philly who are the problem either. I've had the most problems from the blue-blood Yankees in New England...Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Maine, Vermont etc.

Go to Sally's or Pepe's on Orange street. You'll change your tune about NE pizza right quick.

Santarpio's in East Boston, any of the Italian-American 'burbs on the North Shore.

I'm a YANKEE from New England. Actually, an Irish Catholic one. Do you have problems with us Irish too?

'New Englanders can't make a pizza if their life depended on it!'
The second largest Italian population next to NY Metro is in Boston and I don't know where you've eaten pizza but there are many places in Boston and Providence that are as good as NYC.

You obviously haven't REALLY seen New England or lived here to be a judge. Your comments about the region's prejudice a few days ago really show the depths of your own.

please....cheesesteaks are a curse on fast food.

...Northerners like to criticize things without offering constructive solutions to the problem. If the problem involves spending actual money on fixing infrastructure, Northerners would rather have their names posted in all the 'politically correct' places and be seen with all the 'glitterati' and celebrities, rather than actually fix things.

Example in point: The celebrities who are trying to shut down wind power off the coast of Massachusetts. Wind power!!!!!

Northerners BADDDDDDD ....

Southerners GOODDDDDDDD ....

Next question ....

Signed, Jersey Boy ....

sit back and face it

"this shit" was started by someone who lives in Miami, which is pretty far from the North

The mods have been asked to close them by me and others. Apparantly they wont. I'm gonna stand and fight. You up?

I'm not interested in bashing the South; I have no beef with either the South or Southerners. I live in New England and I love it here, but I'd love to move to the deep South at some point. Actually, I'd love to live in Savannah, GA specifically.

My only point was that the original shit-stirrer was not what I would call a Northerner, that's all.

he's from texas, look what thats brung us

you got that right! :P

He's probably never spent much time here...

I agree with you there! Have fun at the gathering tommorrow!!

If the Democrats want to win the WH, he better be Southern.

look where the 'south' put us NOW.

between a Southern Democrat, who aint welcome here

and a Southern Republican, who aint welcome anywhere?

On a chalk board. Besides did you ever hear anything so stupid as refering to people as "youse guys"?
And what is with all the tiny wimpy looking states?

as an unreconstructed Yankee from the great state of Illinois, I'll say that in the South, license plates only have to go on the back of the car and they cost a lot less. Property taxes are really low (but then so is the quality of education-you get what you pay for).

Personally, I'll say that there's good and bad in every region.

PS-I now live in AR

OK, two more: intellectual elitism.

As in, we're so superior that we don't need anybody else in the country to vote for us. We don't need no crummy Southerners, or Westerners, or whatever.

I'm really sorry. I've traveled all over the country, and I love every place I've been (although Hartford, CT was prety boring, OK?). I'm still trying to calm down from the South-bashing going on earlier. My daughter is in college in NYC, and I'm not gonna bash NY or anybody else. I will say that a drive on the PA turnpike from the southwest corner to the NE corner is pretty doggone LONG, but hey, it's still beautiful country.

Bake

What a reward

Hows that :)

It's been 80+ every day for a week and a half here in MA

...without distinguishing between the Midwest, like Ohio,, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc....

and the Northeast..NYC, Philly, Boston, New England....

the last 3 Dem. pres have been from the South.

That's far north mind you...

The only real competitive state in the South was Florida and it's half Yankee. Take away Dixie and Gore won a huge landslide in 2000.

but generalizations get you nowhere. I'm very, very southern, and I did not, repeat, DID NOT vote for George W. Bush. There are democratic voters in every state of the union, as there are republican voters in every state. What goes here, we don't have enough fighting between dems and pugs. Ya'll wanna duke it out? Haven't you had enough of the "cowboy" mentality? For God's sake, save your energy to fight the enemy, you know, the neo-cons, or better, the cheap labor conservatives.

I am sick of being referred to as a Californicator.

They're unwilling to play on an level with the GOP. The only way to fight back is to wage class war as equals the the GOP playing the race card.

But the DNC et al in their wisdom have decided that the south is a lost cause. They in fact encourage the worst aspects of the South by refusing to compete there.

That leaves the field to 1) John Breaux Democrats. You could do worse (and maybe he's a bad example, because he's straight of the Edwin Edwards school of practical, mildly corrupt government. And because I used to work for him, so I give him the benefit of the doubt). 2) Zell Miller Democrats. I don't know where these guys come from. Out from under rocks. They run as Democrats because it is perhaps politically convenient, but they are Republicans at the core.

It comes down to one of the old truisms of the War Between the States. Notherners are cowards who will run from a fair fight.

Instead of comforteningly repeating how hopelessly backwards and unsuitable the south is, why are you down there doing something about it?

Plus, we are a state of Fatties....Gluttonous, Midwestern, lazy people who have confederate flags on cars, and have IQs the size of the local temperature.
is that good enough for you?
At least we had a majority of votes for GORE.

Michigan, remember we had the Michigan Militia that gave us Timothy McVay. We gave DC Spence Abraham.

Here is what I have learned. People are people where ever you go.

Let's try stepping into at least the 20th century, Northerners.
I live in the Southwest and I've never eve seen a home that's heated with oil. Congrats to all the Northerners for making the oil companies filthy rich by being hooked on their liquid narcotic.

MODERNIZE!

I sympathize with the Northies on this one. It's a tough choice.

There are a myriad of other methods. Electric. Natural gas. Geothermal. Solar.
Heating oil is outdated. I will concede it is costly to integrate a new system, however.

Of course if we had an enlightened administration they might pass some laws, or whatever it takes, to help wean people off the oil teat.

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plenty of racism there. :(

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I knew that you could.

Bake

I'm a wisconsin boy and I have to tell you...I'm so sick of everyone

from the rest of the country generalizing about us wisconsinites.

Not everyone from Wisco is overweight, and not everyone eats cheese

and drinks beer at every meal.....it's only about 95% of us that are

like that. So stop it!

GEIN AND DAHMER. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. :7

with the way they kiss, they keep their boyfriends warm at night. :)

I've lived most of my life in VA, but also for various amounts of time in DC, MI, OH, LA, AL, VT, and now live in NC. With siblings in MA, MD, and ID. One can't generalize. Virginia is more like Pennsylvania than it is like Texas. Pennsylvania is more like Virginia than it is like Maine or Minnesota.

I've traveled everywhere in between and out West too. And never once felt hated as a Virginian. But from reading DU for the past year, and especially the past day, I'm feeling so overwhelmingly hated for being a Southerner that it makes no difference that I'm a Southerner with Unionist family history and an interracial background. I'm ready to give up, crawl in a hole, and avoid Yankees for the rest of my life.

How many of you hate us, anyway? I used to think it was next to none; lately I feel like it's almost all.

CYD

And I'm a northerner with a Confederate (1stGenDem) family history. So I can relate, kind of.
John
Plus I'm Catholic. And left-handed.