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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:48 PM
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Have Republican business owners hired people recently just so the......
unemployment figures will not be so high, and therefore help Mad George win the election?

I'm sure my paranoia is just showing, but I can't help but think they might hire people they don't even really need just to be sure that things go the way they want in November.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:53 PM
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1. Fudging the figures costs less.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:54 PM
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2. No Way
Elaine Chao (Secretary of Labor) just buried the numbers and cooked the books.

Remember, she's the wife of Mitch McConnell---the #2 man in the Senate Majority.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:57 PM
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3. I don't care how many "McJobs" he "created"...he's still millions short
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:58 PM
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4. No. 94% of the new jobs for April 2004 are just speculation.
It's called the "CES Net Birth/Death Model."

Bush's Labor Dept. speculates that new businesses the agency has yet to hear from have created 100,000s of net new jobs.

click below for more information:

http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2004_06_07_fake_job_numbers_from_the_bush_administration.asp
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:00 PM
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5. Lowest unemployment rate in the USA in Hawaii.
Not a lot of Republicans here at all. So, probably Democrats hiring.
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Exgeneral Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:00 PM
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6. just today the FED commented on job creation
mentioned the "problem" that wages and quality is low, even if the numbers are up.

IOW you can't work as a aerospace titanium specialist, but Domino's is always hiring......
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Sigi Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:05 PM
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8. Nothing will satisfy
In these difficult times I imagine nothing will satisfy the nay sayers.

Unbelievable.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:21 PM
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11. Hi Sigi!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 08:51 PM
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 04:07 PM
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19. Sigi......I'm interested in hearing more about your views.....
Care to expound?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:03 PM
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7. don't know 'bout that, but Iraq's fulla partisan kids fresh out of school.
Nothing wrong with hiring new grads, but Iraq is an obviously difficult assignment. Experience and some demonstrated expertise ought to play some part in hiring...NOOOOOO, partisanship is the defining hire criterion.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:05 PM
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9. jobs up for many reasons...
seasonal....
landscapers
painters
carpenters
etc of that type go back to work off unemployment from winter

all the campaigns need workers so they have been hired
more government jobs.....contractors...
with war in Iraq it fuels hiring in contract jobs like haliburton and bechtel

summer jobs
waiters
lifeguards
resorts hire

more people shopping because they are on vacation and have nothing else to do so
retail hires more

all of these will go back down come the winter
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:08 PM
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10. We do know they hired 758690001918237364.008 Security guards
Edited on Wed Jun-23-04 07:08 PM by opihimoimoi
for our ports and stations around the Nation, 24/7... very important NOW that the Terrorists are pissed off more than ever,,, but all non productive jobs....with lottsa wasted time.

So we lost Uka million productive jobs and traded them for non productive ones.

A good leader takes care of all of the people, healthier, wealthier, and wiser. Bush is no leader, we are poorer, sicker, and forget wiser.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 09:00 PM
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 09:38 PM
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14. Most people would rather a good productive job making good money
instead of low paying ones, temp at best.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:24 PM
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16. Mods: Thanks for tombstoning that prick
:)
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:55 PM
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18.  Observe the new talking points in action
"the Kerry camp is making them feel like second class citizens"


It's like a flock of majestic bats, banging into each other over and over, isn't it?

Opinions like this are akin to finding a starving man, throwing him a mouldy shit sandwich, and saying "Don't complain! At least you're eating! Can't you see how much better your life is now?"
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 09:40 PM
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15. Every time congress
doesn't extend unemployment benefits it also helps fudge the numbers.
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MUSTANG_2004 Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 04:19 PM
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20. Different numbers
What do you mean that they fudge the numbers by not further extending unemployment benefits? The unemployment rate is different than then number of people collecting unemployment compensation.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 07:24 PM
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21. If people's beneifits run out then they are
offically off the unemployment rolls which means they don't count anymore. As far as i know that directly affects the unemployment rate that comes out every month.
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MUSTANG_2004 Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:52 AM
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22. Unemployment rate is very different than collecting unemployment
The unemployment rate is calculated based on polls of businesses and people by the Census Bureau. It has nothing to do with how many people are collecting unemployment benefits.

http://www.bls.gov/cps/home.htm

Here's a FAQ that has some details:
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_faq.htm
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:49 PM
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17. no. there is no need for that now
that the bushgang has completely politicized the Council of Economic Advisors, the Labor Department and all the other departments in the executive branch.

they just make up numbers to try to make bush look good.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:55 AM
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23. Speaking from experience,
Republican business owners would rather die than hire people they don't need. They are the biggest tightwads on earth when it comes to business. My experience is with my dad and a couple of other Repub business owners I am familiar with.
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