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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 12:29 PM
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White House said blackout "not their problem"
during the first few hours of the power outage. I saw that on CNN I think. It hasn't been mentioned since. Did I hallucinate this or did anyone else see that announcement?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 12:33 PM
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1. It wasn't their problem...
See, it was only in a few states...that's the Governors responsibilities. Now if it had affected all 50 states, then it might have been in their "jurisdiction"...Their "problem' was to make sure they raised enough money for the next election while 15 million people sat in darkness.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:04 PM
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6. 50 million
and, btw, we weren't 'sitting in the dark'

I had to walk nearly seven miles to get home from midtown manhattan...

and you can bet that the POS will find some way to profit off this
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 12:33 PM
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2. of course it isn't their problem,
this is a domestic issue, or didn't you get the memo? :)
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 01:43 PM
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3. "Who cares what you think?" "Not my problem"...
they all mean the same thing... screw you, America.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 01:45 PM
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4. Too many blue states?
I didn't hear the quote but it doesn't suprise me.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:00 PM
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5. That is the first thing
I thought of when I heard the blackout affected the NE. I was just getting ready to leave work when all the electricity went off (three more minutes and I would have been in the elevator). The electricity goes off in our building at an alarming frequency so I wasn't concerned. When I saw all the traffic lights off, then I thought someone must have hit a substation or something. Then I turned on the radio and heard about the NE. The first thing I thought was, these are all blue states!

On a lighter note, I saw two satellites go over my house on Thursday night because it was dark. The moon and Mars were equally impressive. The only complaint I had was there was no breeze and it was humid, but all-in-all, it wasn't that bad. There is a bad thunderstorm coming, hopefully the electricity won't go out again.

Ellie reporting from Royal Oak, MI with her tinfoil hat screwed on tight.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:23 PM
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10. Hi neighbor!
:hi: (Near 13 & Crooks, here.) Our power came on last night around 1am. That was an awesome moonrise Thursday night. The heat/humidity have been suffocating. Having spent the last 20 years on the left coast, I'm no longer accustomed to 90 degrees, 90% humidity, and rain all at the same time. It's been feeling more like Mobile or Atlanta or Saigon than the northeast, IMHO. (Ugh!)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:31 PM
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13. Hiya! From 13 and Harper...
It were blechy weren't it.? Ours came on this a.m. We did enjoy the stars Thursday night, but we had had it by last night.:hi:
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:32 PM
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14. ellie and TahitiNut
Hey, neighbors.
I'm down near Campbell and Lincoln, and we got it back around 7:30. The neighborhood immediately south came back on at 8:00, and my dear friend at 13 1/2 and Rochester got his power back at midnight.

A former student in Clawson got hers at 5:30 this morning.

I hope that we can meet sometime.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 05:27 PM
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18. You're sorta near my (step)sister's.
She lives near Gardenia and JohnR and her power came back on at about 7:30-8pm, too, as we were dining/barbequing in her back yard. It's been a time when many have enjoyed (taken refuge in?) their basements (something rare on the left coast).

Yeah ... maybe I can get some help from y'all to get rid of Knollenberg? (Gads, he's an appalling fascist! I'd almost move just to live in Sandy's district instead.)
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 08:02 PM
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23. hiya
Well, you were just a short bike ride away, assuming safely getting across Eleven Mile. Crossing I-75 is much easier, if you know the right places.

Knollenberg is indeed a fascist sympathizer. He is not even a paleocon. Although my wife and I write to express our positions fairly often, we don't expect anything.

Having said that, S. Levin is a disappointment. Before redistricting, he was our rep. for many years. He was genuinely liberal back in the sixties when he supported legalizing the right to strike for public employess (Pub. Act 312, maybe?) but has since authored the fig leaf for NAFTA (a toothless mention of labor rights) that helped Dems sell out labor. After that, I asked to be taken off his mailing list.

Cheers!
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 09:17 PM
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25. Kimbal grad here..67
n/t
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 10:49 PM
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26. hey, JellyBean1
My oldest is in Dondero now, but I went to high school in Detroit. You still in Royal Oak?
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 09:28 AM
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30. Hi Neighbors!
Edited on Sun Aug-17-03 09:37 AM by ellie
I'm on Baldwin, between Main and N. Alexander. And yes, Knollenberg is one fascist idiot. I have written him several times on issues that I was concerned about and only get the Repuke party line spewed back at me. We will all have to meet sometime! I may be moving back to Ohio to be near my aging mom (also I will be back in Marcy Kaptur's district. I love Marcy), but I will help to get him out of office.

Edited to say: The power came back on between 7 and 7:30 p.m. on Friday.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:34 AM
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31. So even here on DU the West side snubs the East side???
;-)
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:06 AM
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34. no way, baby
We're all east of Woodward. Where in St. Clair Shores are you? I bet I rode my bike through your neighborhood when I was growing up on Detroit's east side.

Cheers!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 12:12 PM
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36. North Shores
13 and Jefferson

:toast:
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 02:24 PM
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37. gotcha
I've definitely gone through your neighborhood, then. When I was young and indestructible, I'd go out Jefferson until it curved away, and then zig-zagged into Mt. Clemens.

Thanks for satisfying my curiosity. We should all get together sometime.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:05 PM
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7. Similar to their attitude about California's manipulated crisis..
God forbid, that they should tamper with the power of the marketplace...
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:05 PM
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8. exact same words they used for CA rolling blackouts "not WH problem"
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:50 AM
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33. ROFLMAO!!!! LOVE your graphic!
That's the funniest thing I've seen all day! ;-)
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:08 PM
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9. There was a thread started here
about a cable(?) received by Ted Koppel on ABC that read something to the effect that the blackout was a domestic problem that did not require WH action, but I have not seen any verification of that
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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:26 PM
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11. that's sort of a confirmation
It's still puzzling to me that the WH statement has not been reported on since that single instance I saw. I know I'm not that crazy to have imagined it. Maybe though, you never know.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:29 PM
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12. and what would you have the White House do????
seriously
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:36 PM
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15. first
I'd have them rein in Spencer Abraham, the dimwitted Secretary of Energy and former incompetent Senator from Michigan and Republican Party chair in Michigan. He went on tv and basically blamed the Democrats for "partisanship" and not passing Republican legislation, the details about which were altogether vague.

It's the smell of Enron.

Next, I'd have the White House commit to massive public works with no hidden agenda about privatizing water (the latest darling strategy of international finance, as demonstrated in Bolivia).

Does that answer your question sufficiently?
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:51 PM
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17. Hillary did the same thing
I think it was on CNN, I had to turn it off, it got very annoying.

It smells to me like politics as usual, something both dems and republicans can be blamed for.

I'm not defending Bush, just tired of the blame, it won't get any better!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 05:33 PM
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20. Well, just what is it that you ARE doing?????
I'm not defending Bush, just tired of the blame, it won't get any better!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 05:31 AM
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29. ahh
the "dems" (can't bother to type the whole word democrat)and the republicans (reps, or pugs or pukes would be a suitable abreviation here at DU) and republicans are the same, it's all politics as usual, vote third party because they aren't about politics (yeah right, and when third party candidates talk about the parties being the same, that isn't "more politics as usual").....
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:26 AM
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35. Tired of the blame? take a long nap, cuz GOp just blamed Canada
and Clinton and them French bastids too! Sorry you cannot be bothered to see a difference even as the fascists march on and plunge us into wars and crises. We, responsible people will vote Democratic and get rid of the bushco. I cannot say what Hillary said on CNN, couldn't turn it off SINCE I WAS IN NYC WITHOUT POWER AT THE TIME. It was Tony Alexander, a bush pioneer who owns the Ohio plant that started this. One week after losing a lawsuit. If you are so tired, maybe you shouldn't exhaust yourself posting.
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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:45 PM
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16. show some leadership maybe?
Any President worthy of the office would have gone on the air and made a statement of reassurance, try to calm any panic, would have offered something to the effect that the nation was looking towards the east in unity blah blah blah. To say, "It's not my problem" was disgraceful. And telling. If they had said "Fuck you, New York", they couldn't have made it plainer that campaign contributions are more important than the American people.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 05:30 PM
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19. If Floriduh lost power throughout the state ...
... Smirk would probably declare a Federal Emergency and funnel in Federal funds to help his brother.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 05:13 AM
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27. Your missing the point
doing and saying nothing is better than saying "this is a domestic issue, not our problem" (again this is alleged) think for a minute how arrogant that sounds.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 05:26 AM
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28. Act like he cares about doing the job he had daddy swipe for him
:shrug:
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 05:34 PM
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21. It's not their Problem, all right.
I think they think it's their SOLUTION
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 06:02 PM
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22. For sure, they'll use it to cut open another artery ...
Edited on Sat Aug-16-03 06:03 PM by TahitiNut
... of taxpayer dollars to feed their bloodsucking cronies. Privatize the profits and socialize the costs. :puke:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 09:10 PM
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24. Dick$bush were out, Andrew Card is quite outspoken (remember
the famous "you don't launch a new product (war) until September"? So, I think it's plausible.
yesterday, Bloomberh, from his air conditioned room also told us (still in the blackout) that it doesn't really matter if it'll be hours or days untill it's over. It's the GOP way!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:38 AM
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32. Please Stop Daring * to Get Involved on this Matter
I wouldn't want this clown troupe of an administration involved any further in the matter.

What's more, making George W. Bush redundant is a good way to get him out of office.
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