I said this last night but I will say it again: First thing Kerry must do

After winning the election:


1. Signal the PA guys to crank up "We Are The Champions" REALLY REALLY LOUD.

2. Thank Micheal Moore

(List to be continued)

(it looks like he is facing for waht will be for him a life sentance there)

Turn bush ashkroft ect. over to the world court

Pull our soldiers out of iraq and afghanistan

Declare war against saudi arabia

In my fantasy land I'm sorry for all you peacenicks out there, but Saudia Arabi's ruling family would be hung and the oppressed people of that nation would be freed.

Of course in the real world such a task would much harder than it sounds....

it would have to start with a siezure of all of thier assets (trillions) and then bombing and then ground troops (they own several 747's so we'd have to keep a close eye on all air travel) and then it would take covert squads to take out all the saudi royal family members around the world (there are thousands)

He's not said anything about pulling them out. He's gonna get the U.N. to send troops to help(?).
I think they should be pulled immediatly...but I'm not a big Kerry supporter.

never trust a bonesman, but he's the lesser of two evils

I'd LOVE to see the troops pulled...


However we pull the troops, the country goes into complete anarchy (even worse than it is now) terrorists could seize the world's 2nd largest supply of oil not to mention we abandaon the Iraqi's after leaving their country in ruins....this is why with a heavy heart I personally don't support pulling the troops untill relief arrives from the UN.

but we're the minority here. I think alot of DU'ers have the belief that Kerry will pull the troops out right away.
He says he won't , but he will get the U.N. and NATO to participate.
I just don't think ANYBODY in there right mind will throw their troops into that meat grinder.

into that meat grinder....but from what I understand Kerry's going to do what Bush refused to do when he had the chance...which was to offer nations financial incentives ("lots o money to be made in Iraq) and if many nations all at once agree to send in troops on those terms, pretty soon the world's armies put together could pose a real offensive or defensive to the thugs (you know who I mean, the terrorists who cross borders to chop off heads and kill innocent Iraqis just trying to reconstruct their lives and refuse to cooperate with terrorists) and basically the tables turn, our troops can eventually come home due to the fact that a TRUE coalition has been built and is overseeing Iraq...could be just another fantasy but closer to reality I think than what Shrub and Co have in store for the future...

Huh? Just what are you postulating here? Nothing short of an army or a state government is capable of "seizing" Iraq's oil fields. We've just proven the scale of "international terrorism" necessary to do this, and even we haven't been successful in controling Iraq's oil production. Or are you buying into the WOT meme: "yer either with us or a terrorist?"

But do you really believe that if we just pulled out everything would just be normal?...remember with Saddam gone terorrists from all over the middle east now have a near safe zone with no evil dictator to hang them from trees for not going along with the program...

Do I sound like some freeper type spewing you're with us or against us? I'm simply stating reality..we broke it we gotta fix it. wish we hadn't broken it, wish it never happened, never supported it, never believed the WMD, Al-Queda ties bullshit, but we're in and we can't just cut bait and run for so many reasons on so many levels.

Yes, we broke it, but sometimes you just have to admit defeat and take the consequences. Iraq is going to melt down no matter what we do-- we've insured that by removing the only force holding it together for the last 40 years, hoewever despotically. There is going to be a bloodbath in Iraq unless and until another leader emerges who can hold it together-- probably just as despotically as Saddam Hussein, and undoubtedly as anti-American. Those are simply facts of life. Frankly, I think that will be the LUCKY outcome-- what I really foresee is the Balkanization of Iraq into Sunni, Shia, and Kurdish mutual hatred societies and civil war-- only a dictator like Hussein can prevent this, unless a VERY charismatic national leader emerges, but you can bet your bottom dollar that such a leader will NOT be what the the neo-cons are looking for.

Iraq is a huge foreign policy disaster that began during the Reagan administration and has snowballed though every U.S. government since. The shrub might have screwed the pooch, but Americans have been holding it down for decades. There is no way out of this. What do you think we can do? Say we're sorry about those 500,000 kids, all the cancers, the utter destruction of one of the most cosmopolitan societies in the ME, the invasion and occupation, shock and awe, salting the earth with DU, installing a puppet government, wiping our asses with the Geneva Conventions, and giving our carpet-baggers unlimited colonial power? Sorry about that. Have a nice day.

"Fixing what we broke" is the latest lame excuse for an utterly failed foreign policy-- one that's invoked after all the other rationalizations for invading and occupying Iraq have failed. Just to put this into perspective, should Hitler have been allowed to hold onto Europe in order to "fix" what he'd broken? Maybe just Poland? It couldn't be fixed. Likewise, we cannot fix Iraq.

Have a nice day.

ANYONE WHO WORKED FOR BUSH/CHENEY et al in ANY capacity.

Clean house down to the frigging basement.

If he becomes president....I'm sure the rest of the deck will fall too. I doubt anyone in the current admin is of any use.

I think he's actually planning on bringing back some Clinton boys particularly Clinton's economic advisor....any word on that?

Just fire everyone and start over. Get some new blood in there that don't have any left over agendas to be working on.

so she can help him get that awful smell out of the Oval Office -
its a good thing!

"Martha Stewart's goin to jail for lying what about BUSH'S LIES??? what about his lies???!"

Robin: "You can only go to jail when you lie about money"

Howard: ::in a matter of factly tone:: "Oh ok" ....."I've had it"

for Veep... a friend told me today that he wishes Kerry would pick Oprah as his running mate, lol.