Fundie Rwinged neighbor threw kitten down steps..killed it

In front of my 9 year old and authorities won't do anything about it.
She said she thought it would land on its feet. My child is upset and crying and I am mad as ....
It was a kitten. about 3 months old.

Compassionate conservatism in action.

It sounds like she would not have been able to take care of it so she 'aborted' it.;(

_Texan_

animal cruelty is a punishable offense.

Poor kitty! :cry:

How is your daughter handling it? That is a horrbile thing to witness!

People who abuse and/or kill animals get taken to the pokey. Should be no problem getting this ho locked up.

I called some folks but we are in the red red state of Ga. where folks do this for sport. I told my daughter she could not play with those kids again and what is really bad..the other kids are younger..one 3 and one 7

with that level of cavalierness and cruelty... I would fear the safety of her children.

Animal cruelty is against the law in every state. If the officer refuses to take a report, then go to his or her superior. Don't give up so quick. They do have to make out an incident report at least, then take it from there. Sorry but you'll have to do most of the foot work, beings the officer did not see the offense.

Humane Society of North Georgia

Email: litternot@direcway.com
P.O. Box 518
Carnesville GA 30521
Franklin County, Georgia
Located in Northeast Georgia, exit 164 on I-85, 50 minutes north of Lawrenceville
Main contact: Jennifer Schmid
Information: (706) 282-9528 (new number as of 4/12/04)
#1, spay/neuter coupons; #2, adoption info; #3, pet giveups; #4, general messages for Jennifer

.O. Box 518
Carnesville GA 30521
Phone: 706-282-9528
1, spay/neuter coupons; 2, adoption info; 3, pet giveups; 4, general messages for Jennifer
Email: litternot@direcway.com

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=georgia+humane+society

Check this google link for a humane society near you.

She should at the minimum pay the $25.00 fine

If they don't, go to the station and file a report with a detective.

If that doesn't work, call your ASPCA and the animal cops in your area. This may be the pound. They may have a right to give tickets.

To dial 911 in this case would be an abuse of the 911 system.

What if a real emergency call was trying to come in and the phones were tied up with this type of nonsense?

_Texan_

I've called directly to the precinct before in situations that I thought weren't emergencies, and they asked me to hang up and call 911. 911 dispatches all calls, and they respond according to their judgment of how time sensitive it is.

If the authorities won't do anything, do it yourself.

Blow the bastard away, that's what he'd do.

and I think that's what the Du'ers in Ga should do. It's the best nonviolet thing I can come up with.

...how many cans of "Great Stuff" it would take to fill a flag-festooned SUV.

Brake pedal?
Cup Holders?
Rear door opening?
Coat wipers?

:evilgrin:

Would Jesus arbitrate? Would one version of fundamentalism destroy another?

They can take action

the Daddy buried it but she just went on about her merry way. What makes me sick..she preaches Bush and good works all the time..won't even wear pants..or shorts. Church don't allow it. but she will kill animals.

Kids cme running to me crying...and the husband was sitting on his porch crying.

Child protective services
PETA
ASPCA
Humane Society
...and anyone else you can think of

CALL THEM ALL!

and the police. That b*tch did this in front of YOUR kids and that is uncalled for, and inhumane.

Report it to your local paper, too - they'd love that sort of story....you might require that they not divulge your identity though.

I would tell her Pastor what she did. Let him have a little talk with her. Unless of course, he's just as insane. Because don't you know, animals have no souls, so they don't feel pain and they don't matter?

I would tell him just in hopes he might preach one Sunday soon about animal cruelty. Or do I live in a dream world?

A woman in WA state took her two little girls to a gravel pit a couple weeks ago and shot them. Her husband and some neighbors said she was "troubled". You know the other, more infamous cases, where a mother manifests severe emotional instability and what terrible results there are. If this woman did this in front of her children, she needs to be nailed by Children's Services or whatever agency is in charge in your area. That is nothing but blatant child abuse and has to be addressed NOW before she does something much more horrible. God knows what she does behind closed doors when nobody's watching her and her kids. Her husband seems quite helpless...sadly, they so often do. Moms don't hurt their own kids, right?? Yeah, right!!

Sorry for the rant but one thing that absolutely infuriates me in this ugly world is what people do to kids. I feel awful about the kitten, that's totally reprehensible, but what she's done to her kids and your daughter by her actions is a million times worse.

I hope this is resolved now and this so-called Christian woman is getting what she deserves.

Tired Old Cynic

Her kids came running to you?

Sorry, but the "C" word is the only thing to describe that asshole.

describe the situation - the lack of response legally (there probably isn't any law that allows the police to act/respond) - and question if this is what the community really believes/wants?

A number of years ago there was a particularly disturbing incident involving a couple of college students, torturing (setting on fire) a couple of cats. There was no law on the books to take much action. However awareness of the situation occured based on a small story in the paper followed up by a whole lot of letters being written to the editor. The raised awareness eventually resulted in a change in the law - allowing some punishment for cases of exceptional animal cruelty.

Thing is - unless the paper covers the story - no one knows about it. Thus - a letter to the editor - might get the ball rolling...

and Un american ! I have been blasting him for weeks now !

Vetwife -- I'd call the cops (again) if you must, the Humane Society, and then I'd seriously consider calling Department of Family and Children's Services. Anyone who would kill an animal in front of children is a danger to those children, IMO.

...call the desk sgt. I did that once when the police were too lazy to take a complaint - they came back apologetically and took the report then!

to comfort her for over an hour and he is MAD ! MAD ...MAD.....

He can't afford to get too upset he is a Nam vet and they don't want to even go there !

I'm not writting anything else here because I am so pissed that I afraid I'll type something that will get me kicked off of DU. Her cruelty and stupidity will be her own reward. Sorry Your child had to witness something so senseless and upsetting.

you could spin it to the cops that she killed the kitten in a way that seemed like a threat against you and your daughter.

Of course, that would be wrong.

especially since she shows no remorse. Who knows, she might get upset one day and take it out on one of her children. Those types are very high strung.

This is the second post in just a few minutes that has animal cruelty as its theme! Your poor little girl and that innocent kitten!! These kinds of things seem to stick in a child's psyche for a long time. Damn your neighbor to hell and back! From your posts here and SC I know you'll make things to rights, vetwife. I'm so sorry this happened to you, your child and that little kitty.

He had to see so much sensless killing for so long ! May cause him a trip to the hospital !

If they abuse animals like that, they probably abuse the kids too. Keep an eye for signs of abuse on their kids. Assuming CPS in your area aren't too bad, you could be doing the children a favor.

Keep us updated.

was gay.

Anyway, that's sickening. And abuse of animals is often an early warning sign that you're dealing with seriously dangerous people.

Apparently Bush used to blow up frogs with firecrackers as a child. Need I say more?

If someone did that to a poor animal..what do they do to their kids?
She told them she would get them anothr cat. It was just a cat.

You know psychologists say that children who abused animals are more likely to grow up to be mass murderers...

Was along with the buzz around the DC psychoanalyst who wrote "Bush on the Couch".. Which I haven't read, so I don't know if he himself deals with the frog stuff, but I do believe he asserts in the book that Bush has a classic case of megalomania (no shit!) a messiah complex, and several various other psychoses.

Here's a couple links I found on the frog story:

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1215-03.htm

http://www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-3nov2000-frogs.html

a boyhood friend of his. Totally monstrous!

in the spring and fiends find them and torture them. I have read so many instances just today I am sick. No place in hell is hot enough for these zombies/non-persons.
We have to find out what areas have the highest rates of animal abuse, neglect and no spaying/neutering and keep posting it in the paper and embarrass them and their neighbors. Put them in the spotlight.

animal abuse or fire setting in the Scumbag's childhood.


I was afraid to look at this thread; violence against innocent animals just wrecks me, then I can't get it out of my head.

Don't know if I can handle looking at the other one about the puppies. One is more than I can take. :cry: :cry: :cry:

to see if any news organizations are interested localy. If its a bit slow in the next few days you could embarass the heck out of someone. On the other hand its probobly a good way to start a neiborhood war so you should probobly take this as a chance to teach your daughter that there are people in this world that you should NEVER put yourself in a position of dealing with on any level.

most of them were Bush Lovers !

I think that there is a cycle of abuse, some of it sexual of course, at the heart of right-wing politics, especially the fundy stuff.

It's an American disease.

Following the "unsigned" orders of Mrs. Ashcroft.

Go to a theripist then file a civil suit for the bill... oh wait that would be more of a pain to you then them... do the letter to the editor thing. Oh and call a vet see if they know anything about the laws in your area. You never know. Is there any child protection peopel you could call?

RH

Especially if she did it right in front of the kids. Looks like you really have a case here, the more I think about it. Those children should be taken out of there ASAP.

which are suitable for posting here. This fuck shouldn't be allowed to get away with that bullshit.

Then it would be evil and disgusting.

Bush started by putting firecrackers in frogs mouths.

Now he has graduated to killing people.

"Whatsoever you have done to the least of these my children, you have done unto me".
"Whatsoever you would have others do unto you, do unto them."

Throw these words back at her - she's earned it! She should be very ashamed of herself - this is animal cruelty, and since children witnessed it - cruelty to children.

Hugs to you and your family!

She will get off scott free....

Give your children an extra hug from your fellow DUers tonight - you'll be in our thoughts.

Peace.

Anj

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

:puke:

does not equal the right to abuse, mame or kill.

Yet another good reason we're governed by constitutional law and not Biblical law. The constitution may be vague and imperfect, but it doesn't seem nearly as open to misinterpretation and misuse as the Bible.

God was not fond of Balaam hitting the donkey, and the donkey didn't like it much either (Numbers 22)

23 When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way with his drawn sword in his hand, the donkey turned off from the way and went into the field; but Balaam struck the donkey to turn her back into the way.

24 Then the angel of the LORD stood in a narrow path of the vineyards, with a wall on this side and a wall on that side.

25 When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, she pressed herself to the wall and pressed Balaam's foot against the wall, so he struck her again.

26 The angel of the LORD went further, and stood in a narrow place where there was no way to turn to the right hand or the left.

27 When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, she lay down under Balaam; so Balaam was angry and struck the donkey with his stick.

28 And the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?"

29 Then Balaam said to the donkey, "Because you have made a mockery of me! If there had been a sword in my hand, I would have killed you by now."

30 The donkey said to Balaam, "Am I not your donkey on which you have ridden all your life to this day? Have I ever been accustomed to do so to you?" And he said, "No."

31 Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way with his drawn sword in his hand; and he bowed all the way to the ground.

32 The angel of the LORD said to him, "Why have you struck your donkey these three times? Behold, I have come out as an adversary, because your way was contrary to me.

"Good morning Mrs. Kitty Killer. How's bible class these days?"

What a bitch. Does she not know how to treat animals? Geez! Man, how would she like it if someone threw her down the stairs? Call the humane society now!

a call or e-mail. They have never not answered my e-mail and they can be insane. They showed up once because some homeowners was threatening to kill all the ducks at our local pond. They told him they know where he lives. Really you should.

Great idea! :thumbsup: Under normal circumstances I dislike PETA because of their antics, but in this case they could be put to good use.

this might not sound like much, but they will never again be able to adopt a pet after that act. And contact the police again. Cruelty to animals is a felony in many states. Contact social services; child welfare; domestic violence organizations. Keep contacting authorities until somebody does something.

I would be assaulting her mercilessly by the time the Police arrived

I'm talking uncontrolled brutality.

My gut reactions are not the sanest however..........

He was angry. Who knows why. But we all must treat each other with kindness. When we don't, there are repercussions. Sometimes people can't take any more pain, and they act out. Poor kitty. And poor man. All we can do is try to heal. Stop hurting. Stop punishing.

On edit- "She". And I also have to realize that this could have happened under circumstances other than I thought. Maybe there are rotten people who just don't think.

There is evidence that folks who abuse animals in front of children often abuse those children physically as well as mentally. A battered women's advocacy program may have more information about this for you. Abuse of pets is a warning sign for domestic violence and child abuse.

...you and your husband and daughter are having to deal with this. It is always the good and innocent who suffer when people become infected with a war rage based on lies. Please know you are in my prayers.

Gordon25

and I will get flamed for this, accused of being a freeper and all that bullshit, but what does the fact that your neighbor is a fundie right winger have to do with the fact that they are cruel to animals? Like if they agreed with you politically you would brush it off and say they didn't mean to do it? It makes no sense.

...as irrelevant.

Gordon25

so you proved yourself wrong and I apparently struck a nerve. I shouldn't respond to a post as dumb as that one, but there you go. I honestly wasn't posting that question to be a gadfly, I was asking a real question that struck me and I think it's a legitimate one. But if this is just going to be a non-questioning pity party where posters just egg each other on without any apparent critical thinking skills, then have fun.

...when the teacher covered the difference between the definitions of pity and compassion.

Gordon25

statements that show a severe lack of critical thought and intelligence do strike a nerve with me.

Of the outwardly psychotic tendencies and lack of regard for life (human or animal) on the part of many right-wing fundamentalists. They do it time and again. See Bush, Goerge W. and Cheney, Dick for starters, but the list is endless. All the way from the top right on down to this woman. And people here are sick and tired of it.

...Sleepystudent made a important point. I'm in agreement that this person's cruelty to the cat had nothing to do with her political affiliation and shouldn't even have been a factor.

One could use the same type of labeling and spin to foster fear and hate of homosexuals. For example: Here are the top eight serial killers of the past quarter century. Note that all were homosexuals: (1) Donald Harvey (37 murders) (2) John Wayne Gacy (33 murders) (3) Patrick Kearney (32 murders) (4) Bruce Davis (28 murders) (5, 6, 7) Dean Corll, Elmer Wayne Henley, and David Owen Brooks (27 murders) (8) Juan Corona (25 murders), Jeffrey Dahmer (17 murders).

Now, does the fact these horrific people were homosexuals have a bearing on the cruelty of their acts?

I think it's dangerous and simplistic to use labels to disparage entire groups of people.

That's it exactly. It's lazy simplistic thinking, which apprently right wing fundies do not have a monopoly on. Isn't saying someone is cruel to animals, look at what they did enough? I guess some people need a little more to feel outraged.

Can you please provide evidence that all these people were homosexuals?

suspected of over 50 murders in several states)
Sorry, but it's true.

However, the fundy cat killer IS a dirtbag

I'm not saying this definitely isn't true, but I'd like to see something to back it up other than the word of one or two anonymous people on a chat board.

I certainly don't think there is any correlation between homosexuality and serial killing, but the original statement concerning these particular individuals is irrefutable

Visit www.crimelibrary.com and use the search functions for the individual's names.

The criminals I listed all had either (or both)consensual or non-consensual sex with men.

Again, just so my original point won't be misconstrued, I most definitely do NOT think there is a link between homosexuality and serial murder. That is absurd. My only point was how the same spin and labeling used in the beginning post could also be used to stir up hate and fear of homosexuals.

Now, does the fact these horrific people were homosexuals have a bearing on the cruelty of their acts?

It's overused and inappropriately used, but when an analogy is so wild as this one,



http://users.rcn.com/rostmd/winace/pics/

Is "absence of empathy, and disregard for the pain and suffering of other living things" kinda inherent in, or at least statistically closely associated with, fundie right-winger-ism? Hmm, maybe.

Is "absence of empathy, and disregard for the pain and suffering of other living things" kinda inherent in, or at least statistically closely associated with, homosexuality? Need I offer an answer?

If all of the people in your list had had blue eyes, might that have had some bearing on the cruelty of their acts? How about if the kitten-killer had had blue eyes? Who would even think of suggesting it?

There really is just a bit of a statistical correlation between *not* being a fundie right-winger and *not* inflicting intentional cruelty on animals.

Mind you, the woman in question may simply have been genuinely dim. She may genuinely have believed that kittens always land unharmed on their feet, and that what she did was not harmful to the kitten. Not even that she was careless as to whether what she did harmed the animal (as opposed to intentionally harming it) -- that she really didn't expect the harm to result. I'd have to say that this is a real possibility. There are stupid people in the world, and also people who just don't have the knowledge or experience they need to know better about things.

Hmmmmmmm. Is being really stupid, or even really uninformed, statistically more closely correlated with being a fundie right-winger than with *not* being a fundie right-winger? I wonder ...

You don't know me at all or you would know I am the last person on any board that wanted pity. I usually stick to veteran issues which did affect a veteran. Now you say you weren't trying to flame when all of these people showed compassion and I say you are full of it. I see more than a dead cat here. I see someone buying into Rush and Coulter and Boortz, to the point I am not too comfortable around a person who claims they are all about God and Jesus. I am the same person on Monday that walks out of church on Sunday.

Why did I label her a Right winged Fundie? Because that is what she is. The kind who crams Bush and God down your throat not that she can tell the difference, but goes to church on Sunday and kills pets on Monday. I think liberals are more compassionate than that. Yeah there are a few sick people in opposition of Bush but the Bush crowd holds the majority because all they hear is HATE !

Pity is poor poor pitiful me and everyone on this board and other boards know I am not a whiner. I try to be an informer. Why don't you just google my name Amanda Kato or Vetwife and find out just how many pity parties I throw. Then you will know just how many stands I take against injustice. Don't try and lecture me pal, I don't pity party..I play ball and I play Hardball with the bigboys..All the way to the top. You said I answered , I did and you didn't like the answer. Well don't try and turn words around on me. I don't play games. I defend positions. I can't stand this type of behavior and then try and convince me its not hate mongering from the right. AND I STILL STICK TO THE FACT>>THE BEHAVIOR IS MAINLY FROM THE RIGHT WINGED HATED MONGERING CHICKENHAWKS ! No I would not have excused a leftie for this but 10 to 1 a leftie has more compassion than display such an act. I will deal with her tomorrow, but I wanted to deal with you now.

To all those who showed compassion for such a dispicable act, Thank you.

Well I'm not. Sorry. And I didn't write anything in my first message about pity at all. That's not the issue to me in my first post. The issue is a question. What does political identification have to do with an act of animal cruelty, at least in this case, where there is no evidence that this is systematic? And I wasn't lecturing anyone-if I was lecturing you the post would have been longer and would not have been in the form of a question. Isn't the animal cruelty bad enough to get people to run in-it almost seems like the right wing part is not needed to elicit compassion, at least I wouldn't think it would be. The right wing part on here is like an extraneous element designed to rile people up-like a red cape in front of a bull.

To be honest, your response to my message seems out of proportion, over the top,and really defensive, which leads me to think I have a point. And I never said anything about you trolling for pity or anything that would or should have inspired you to attack me personally, except for the fact that I wasn't playing along. Sorry that I struck a nerve with you.

always think that they've won an argument if they're able to piss someone off. Being annoying is not the same as having a valid point. Or am I just "strinking a nerve"?

That is my opinion and I am sticking to it. I know enough Fundie R-wingers to know most if not all are hypocritical, bigoted and narrow minded and don't give a hoot about anything but what THEY BELIEVE.
THEIR CONCERNS, Most if not all are selfish, self centered and ignorant. I didn't say Republican ...Re Read the post..I said Right winged Fundie. Have you forgotten that we are not at Free Republic. Take a poll and find out how well Right winged fundies are thought of on this board. There are some Right winged Fundies who are Democrat or no party affliation. Look at Zell Miller. You are just wrong ! I call em like I see em ! You chose to post..I chose to disagree.

But I looked back on my old posts and I never used the term "Republican", I didn't even use the term "Democrat"-I used the term you used-"fundie right winger" And I know we are not on Free Republic-I have never been there, I just hear about it incessantly on here, and thank you for proving me right, I knew someone would hysterically call me a freeper in lieu of an actual response, but that's cool, that's par for the course.

But my point still stands-their political affiliation has nothing to do with their treatment of animals in one instance, no matter how much you are trying to shoehorn it in. This is of a piece of "they're liberal, they do perverted things!", 'Thy're Jewish, they kill babies" and other such crap.

I love it. They even kill cats! Clutch your pearls!

And to Blue Jay: Guess what. Valid points can be, often are, annoying. It's possible to be both. Annoying is in the eye of the beholder.

Sleepystudent: look at it like this. Cheney telling Leahy to go fuck himself normally wouldn't elicit one bit of interest from me, except for the fact that it makes him a complete hypocrite to be moralizing us all to death out of one side of his mouth, while telling someone to go fuck themselves out of the other.

Crazy neighbor throwing a kitten down the stairs would be horrible enough, but it adds insult to injury that she's someone that preaches Christianity to everyone 24/7 (from what the original poster said) on one hand, then brutally kills this innocent animal.

It's a pretty touchy topic, and my jaw has been hanging open in disbelief ever since I read the original post, but sniping at each other over minor details of the story isn't particularly productive.

I agree with the poster who suggested calling PETA: my brother used to work for them, and they don't mess around.

if I could have my way.....

Stick around, the initiation won't last long.

has to do with the fact that they are cruel to animals. Are you ready? Because this is SOLID:

1. The neighbor is a religious fundamentalist.

2. The neighbor killed a kitten for fun.

Do you get it?

No one has drawn ANY correlation between the two. No one has said religious fundamentalism causes people to kill kittens for fun. No one has said that religious fundamentalists are all kitten killers, or any such thing.

The POINT of the original post was that this DU poster has a religious fundamentalist neighbor who is always preaching how religious and right she is, and that this neighbor killed a kitten for fun.

This does not reflect on other religious fundamentalists, nor should it. But it reflects pretty damned strongly on the one who DID kill a kitten for fun, now doesn't it?

And as for how you can get this poster upset; this poster already IS upset, because A RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST KILLED A KITTEN FOR FUN IN FRONT OF HER NINE YEAR OLD.

So you did NOT make a valid point, and you did NOT win an argument today.

Perhaps tomorrow. We shall see.

If you're so sleepy, maybe you should be like the OTHER STUDENTS, and take lots of SPEED and METHAMPHETAMINES, and DRINK COFFEE, and then you wouldn't be so DAMNED SLEEPY.

That last part is a joke.

The rest is not.

Have a nice day.

She KNOWS this woman and this worthless pile of shit is not only a kitten killer, but a bible thumping, Bush loving BITCH!

What a douchebag.

I can think of any number of things I'd LIKE to do.. but none that would be legal...

But in addition to the humane society / police response (which you should pursue), I'd call child services as well..

And perhaps pursue punishment through some good old neighborly humiliation.. a big ole' "Kitty Killer ---->" sing in your yard might be nice...

"what part of THOU SHALT NOT KILL, don't you get????????????????," unfortunately she wouldn't think that applied to ANIMALS for she believed they DIDN'T HAVE SOULS.

We are christians. e believe IN Thou Shalt Not Kill. My husband has had to do some things that he has had to live with for years, while he was in Nam. these kids have never seen abuse in this home.
This woman will not hear from me tonight. Too angry. She will hear from me tomorrow and the authorties. I did talk to Beth a little and she did not do it right in front of the kids, they were outside and when they came in..This gets worse. She told them to watch out for the cat downstairs. she killed it by accident. The kids went hysterical.
I did not say only fundie right wingers do this sort of thing but they sure seem to be the majority. The woman will not let her kids play with anyone she feels could corrupt her kids morally. She only wears skirts to her ankles, she doesn't wear bathing suits, I smoke ciagrettes so I must be Hell bound and she is always walking around
praising Bush and the Republican party. Now I have made my case. She left that cat down there for the kids to see and this is emotional abuse and I will deal with her. Everyone who know me knows I will deal with her. Not tonight but rest assured I will deal with this right winged hypocrite.

I did not say only fundie right wingers do this sort of thing but they sure seem to be the majority.

I was sexually molested and physically abused by a liberal who also drowned a litter of kittens and then told us all about it afterwards.

I don't think you have any proof at all that your above statement is true. You are just lashing out because you are upset.
Regardless the kid has a point. Her religion has nothing to do with this.

It's her hypocricy. I think that the reson that the woman's religious fundamentalism was brought up was that a person who claims to follow the Ten Commandments should not be so cavalier about killing a kitten.

I don't think someone who is a liberal and a secular humanist Pacifist should be so cavalier about killing a litter of kittens. Don't you think that is awfully hypocritical?
Come on...think about it for a minute. There is a ridiculous habit on this board of blaming everything on religion. I don't even know if this person is a fundie or not. So what if they are? Jeesh, we still have religious freedom don't we?

I did not say only fundie right wingers do this sort of thing but they sure seem to be the majority.

If that statement isn't blatent fear-mongering and a baseless accusation I don't know what is.

Being from a small Southern town, believe me, I know plenty of what you would call Fundie Rwingers. They may be politically errant but kitten killers and abusers they are not.

Of course, there may be some. I'm sure there are despicable people in any Party. To imply that somehow Rwingers have a monopoly is a statement backed by ignorance and hatred.

Let me give you a true example: My parent's neighbor (my neighbor as I was growing up) has been voting Democrat since the 1950's. He also would routinely drown the kittens on his farm when he would have an overpopulation, as he deemed it. As a child, I was horrified by that practice and would sneak kittens over to my house. Thank God my parents loved cats.

Now, can I, from that experience, infer that ALL Democrats are cruel and that somehow their political affiliation has something to do with that cruelty?

I may not agree with the Fundies politically, but I would never make such blanket statements. It would be akin to Freepers saying all Liberals are dope-smoking Communists who like nothing better than ripping children from mothers wombs and taking away all the guns.

Again, labeling such as that is dangerous and simplistic thinking.

(edited for spelling)

to see how much bad shit you can get away with-how much you can steal,lie,kill

I cannot believe such cruelty. What is with some people? What kind of person would do such a thing? A sociopath?

if your (revolting) neighbour says she just did it to see it land on it's feet (and presuming there are only a few steps) then she'd probably get off.

Telling everyone you see visit her house that she did this might have some effect or then there's the responses I wouldn't post but would probably consider. Cruelty to anything that can't fight back (children, small animals and citizens of piss poor countries) is the height of cowardice

I have a question though, you said she thought it would land on it's feet.

I'm not making excuses for her but that just sounds like she's stupid. Not showing remorse for it is disturbing though.

If it happened to me I would tell my children they are not allowed in that house. If your kids are friends with theirs then banning them from being friends doesn't seem healthy. Kids are kids and probably don't understand "freeper" etc, or maybe they do but when they are kids they just want to be free.

I'd also refrain from calling the cops since any situation where a cop would come over would probably be very stressful to everyone involved, especially her kids if she were questioned.

My course of action would be to go talk to her personally about what happened, tell her it is very disturbing what happened and how she acted afterwards, and that you didn't think it was appropriate to test out her archaic experiments around such small children. I'd give her a good polite but forceful piece of my mind.

Thats just me though.

As far as the one who questioned whether I was just blaming fundies. Here lately that is the only kind of people I see doing really terible things and on top of that..that stupid movie Fraility was on tonight !

I will think about this but come morning I will confront this woman as my child will not endure this kind of upset and I don't want my children exposed to this woman. The man I felt sorry for as he is still walking around and feling bad. e at least buried it. This was one of God's creations and yet she would tell us all how we were murderers if we believed in the democratic party. What a hypocrite ! What part of Thou Shalt not Kill did she not get. Well I kill mice and poison spiders and things that hurt me or can cause me damage like a hornet but Little Beth won't even do that she puts little ants out the door. She truly was traumatized.

god god god it makes me mad.

and I am certain that theONLY way that tossing an animal down the stairs could kill it is if you THREW it FORCEFULLY. I mean two hands, over your head, as hard as you could. MY god my god, this woman is full of hate--makes sense she spouts Bush all the time. And then casually tell the kids to watch their step. The calm cold lying-"I wanted to see if it would land on its feet" ah god that poor little animal. This is big big sickness going on.

vetwife, I don't even know what to say, right now, how awful to have to be living next door to that evil, but please do what you can to make sure this piece of human waste meets consequences.
ah geez.... ;(

who thought horrific animal torture was a real hoot. He tried to tell me about it, it was so entertaining for him. I told him to shut the hell up you sick fck and that was the end of the friendship.

Go to a payphone and call the authorities on a child abuse case and tell them that she kills animals in front of her kids and neighborhood kids.

She'd subscribe to an "eye for an eye" and have someone throw her down the stairs.

It's a good thing I don't live next to that bitch or there would be a war on.

I'd take away any animal she gets in the future for starters.

Seriously think about calling CPS before we hear of another fundie that drowned kids in tub, stoned them or whatnot.

I wish a hundred cats would scratch her raw in her sleep.

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I think Sleepystudent made a important point. I'm in agreement that this person's cruelty to the cat had nothing to do with her political affiliation and shouldn't even have been a factor.

One could use the same type of labeling and spin to foster fear and hate of homosexuals. For example: Here are the top eight serial killers of the past quarter century. Note that all were homosexuals: (1) Donald Harvey (37 murders) (2) John Wayne Gacy (33 murders) (3) Patrick Kearney (32 murders) (4) Bruce Davis (28 murders) (5, 6, 7) Dean Corll, Elmer Wayne Henley, and David Owen Brooks (27 murders) (8) Juan Corona (25 murders), Jeffrey Dahmer (17 murders).

Now, does the fact these horrific people were homosexuals have a bearing on the cruelty of their acts?

I think it's dangerous and simplistic to use labels to disparage entire groups of people.

And I'm sorry that you and your husband now have this additional trauma to deal with, as if you need anything more on your plate. I hope you get some cooperation from local animal protection groups.

I can't help but wonder how a grown woman managed to get as old as she is and not have learned that it's a no-no to toss a kitten down a flight of stairs? I expect more from my 4-year old! Even an adult cat should not be treated that way. Something is very seriously wrong with this woman.

I can only pray that woman wakes up to the horrific fact of what she has done and put these children through.

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he would pick up free kittens and feed them live to his dogs to train them to hunt and fight. That man (like most all fundies i have met) is an ass.

They really believe that gawd gave them permission to do anything their little cruel heart desires to any animal, and any human (BTW) who does not go to their church.

Wanna hear about real torture?

Ole bush has evangelical fundies follow up behind the troops to bring them the comfort of christian fanaticism. Could you imagine some a-hole trying to save you after a family member got killed?

An action like that speaks for itself.

What church did this person attend?

and the Humane Society. Visit the police or sheriff's department and demand that they let you file a complaint.

I live in a red area of Florida and cruelty to animal-type incidents get front page attention, even more than child abuse stories. This woman sounds seriously disturbed, that she would do that in front of children and just shrug her shoulders and walk away.

You are wise to keep your child from her kids; I'm so sorry she had to witness that horror.

Put a big sign in your window that says "Kitten Killer!" with an arrow pointing to her house. Add "Shame on you (insert her name)" so there's no doubt who you're referring to.

Then make those calls to the SPCA, Peta, Child Protective Services, media, etc.

C'mon, there are plenty of freepers who love their cats, you can see that if you read their posts.

This guy is a sociopath-he could be a liberal or a conservative for all I care, he's a danger to any helpless creature, including human children and elderly. Guys like that are like rapists in that they look for something they perceive as weaker or less powerful to themselves and hurt it to feel like big men. It's too bad the police wouldn't investigate-they need the "Animal Cops" from the Humane Society.

all humans aren't like her, thank goodness.

I have kittens. The Four Kittens of the Apocalypse, my daughter calls them. She has one she loves called Squishy. Also we have Smushy, Biscuit and The Cheat. They are all adorable tabbies and i live in TN so lemme know if you need one, The BITCH who killed that kitten must have done more than "toss it" down the stairs, She heaved it. A pox on her.... And, I have some kittens who need good homes if anyone is interested. But not to feed to your dog....

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these people. Call child protection, ask them their opinion on this. Tell them what you saw.

People cannot kill animals and get away with it.

This IS a crime!


Wolfospitz

... as a kid... without too many details... I witnessed my father do a similar thing... I still cry when I think about it. Never talked about it to anyone until I was in my 20s, and didn't realize how traumatizing it had been.

I can't believe they won't do anything about it. :mad:

But do report it.

Ya definitely call some animal rights thing cause that is terrible!

They are aware and are definately looking into this Kitty Killer's life. I can't watch those kids and sometimes a person has to do what a person has to do. There is a social worker involved. I thought long and hard before I had someone come out here yesterday and finally did what was necessary. The ball is in their court now.

This was a painful post to read through. It's a shame that the focus shifted in midstream. I'm glad you involved family services. I once reported abuse of a child's animal. The family had a history of neglect and the child was removed and placed with another family member. It's been years and I often wonder about the little girl and wish I knew where she is now and what she is doing. You seem tough and compassionate - what a good combination. The children are lucky to have you as a neighbor! My next door neighbor abused a puppy and gee, the puppy has a new home now! People who abuse animals have no respect for any life.

You did the right thing.

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that they don't end up with a family like the one in TN that was in the news recently.