I must vent or explode

I am sick beyond belief with stupid people!!!!!!

I deal with complete idiots.


So dumbass military wife posted pictures of handcuffed Iraqis with their faces shoved in the sand. She posted these horrible pictures on our FRG web site. I deleted the offending and offensive snapshots and explained why...Geneva yada yada yada (we have to abide by the same rules the military is "supposed" to abide by)..and by gawds..under my leadership, those poor excuses for humans(the spouses) WILL abide by them.

The primordial ooze whined she didn't "no nothing about some Geneva"

THEN..some equally moronic parents and other smooth brained twits, politely called military spouses, moaned and groaned..."infair" "censorship"....blah blah blah

These people even have pictures of dead Iraqis("enemy" and civilian alike)...and brag about it.

I don't know how much longer I can take this. I'm sick to my stomach with disgust and so angry I can only sputter when speaking.

I needed to vent....

The military family anti-war movement is growing, which will lend it greater legitimacy and moral authority.

about the anti-war sentiment growing among some military families...it's just not happening quick enough around me.

Thank you for listening. It's everything I can do to hold my tongue with these people.

But then again you knew that.

We don't need no steenkin rule of LAW!!!!

And this is your reality to deal with. This level of understanding.
Um pardon my asking...where are they getting these pics?

or at least suspect it...

Their neanderthal husbands are sending them home....complete with smiling faces.

I keep thinking that sooner or later something will give and this entire mess will come smashing down on Shrub's head...exposing him once and for all for the knuckle-dragging destructive force he is...and then maybe...just maybe...we can turn the tide.

See, these people actually point to Chucklenuts and say "Bush allows it" (so it muct be OK)

of military dependents posting there? Are you military or a vet? Sorry to sound like a tribunal, I'm just confused by how you got in this situation.

Every group has its morons and of course a lot of military men and their wives are not very well-educated -- my dad was career military so I know this well. So I don't expect that their grammar and spelling will be perfect (as if you find that in all college graduates! ) But not to know about the Geneva Convention is surprising to me, especially given that these are the professionals -- the all-volunteer military. That's very troubling, very troubling indeed.

Did you see the article at CounterPunch a day or two ago, presenting an Aussie Viet Nam vet's take on the shoddy performance of the US military in Iraq? A good article about human rights abuses by our troops. He tells of an American officer explaining that they succeeded in getting an Iraqi officer to talk by taking his wife and kids into custody and then telling the Iraqi officer to "talk and we'll tell you where your family is." A real outrage.

Edit: And of course it comes from the top down. When you have Bush* and Rumsfeld -- and presumably Colin Powell -- ordering the killing of Uday and Qusay, of course you have officers in Iraq doing what I described, and soldiers thinking it's funny to take pictures of Iraqs with their faces puched into sand and pictures of dead bodies, too. And probably worse types of "trophies." These troops were badly taught by their superiors and see the amorality of the Sec of Def and the Cdr in Chief. Very depressing.

Husband is in Iraq. The website belongs to our FRG (Family Readiness Group). I'm head of the FRG. We are a non-profit group that raises funds to help out the families in our company and BN.

I was shocked to learn of the lack of knowledge concerning the GC. Especially considering the soldiers take classes on just that.

posting lately, certainly I'd remember if I'd read before that your husband was there. I want them all home as soon as possible! It seems obvious that the administration did not plan properly and that there'll be no peace until we're out of there and UN peacemakers are in place.

My military upbringing makes me really angry about how poorly this is all being handled. The stories about troops not having enough drinking water or enough toilet paper really infuriate me. With all the millions of tax dollars being spent on the war, there should be a priority on comfort for the troops. And then there are the cuts in hazardous duty pay and veteran's benefits! This is the worst treatment I have ever seen the military receive. You have my support (and so does your husband) for trying to do the right thing in an insane world.

and don't post much. Too busy. Thank you!...DU is my refuge.

and the "american people' are some nasty monkeys with a thin veneer of civilization & a government approved intolerance for intellectual inquiry.

They could be used as evidence.....In fact they SHOULD be used as evidence.

RC

kick it up there.

I have missed seeing your posts. I am glad to know you are still lurking if not posting. As for the family anti war movement, it will get here but you know the mid west is always behind. How is hubby doing? I worry about you and everytime I see that guys are coming home on TV I watch (as if I would just know it was you). Keep venting here, it must be very hard to deal with that attitude.

I'm still here. Love DU too much. I'm "hiding" today. Not answering the phone and not answering the door. I need the respite.

Hubby is ...as well as can be expected. He has lost a lot of weight. Had to be "stuck" the other week for dehydration(it was 158 degrees-everyone was "falling out") The Iraqis call it the "white man's sickness"

He loves Iraq.He loves the history, the people... and his letters mourn the loss of both. All the pictures he sends home are of Babylon and UR...of Iraqi children, doctors and his "students"...The Iraqis he works with sent me a gift of a scarf. I returned with a thank you note and small trinkets.

When his watch broke, his students brought him a new one the next day...My husband shares his care packages with them and I send extras so that he can.

talk soon

it's all part of de-humanizing the perceived enemy. he fought in korea, and apparently killed quite a few enemy soldiers. he even went so far as to smuggle back a human skull, and i swear to god, made an ashtray out of it and sat it on the coffee table. i never saw it, because my mother made him put it away before we arrived.

eventually, he got rid of it, but the story always impressed me. strange how we can display the iraqi people, shot up, exploded, humiliated and crow over it. people are suffering. suffering is not an entertainment. and when it becomes such, the human being in us becomes something baser.

Glad you had a place to vent. I doubt I would have been able to restrain myself and would have lashed out at those dimbulbs.

It seems that the stories I hear from military around the counrty all have this dichotomy; either the troops are engaging in dehumanizing behavior or they are aware of it and feel helpless to stop this.

This was an aspect of the Vietnamese conflict that took a huge toll on slodiers as they returned; not only your own friends dying but the onset of PTSD years later when your unconscious mind finally connects the dots about what you were doing to the whole society over there. This war resembles more an more the Vietnam scenario and we had better come to terms with the idea that there are going to be long lasting after effects of this conflict far beyond * losing the White House. Ihope we can get the VA funded at adecent level; that hasn't been the case for some time now.