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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:00 AM Original message |
Should Teresa be considered our first African-American first lady? |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. More forthcoming about what? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It's part of her world view |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. No, it doesn't matter n/t |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Why not? |
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Another Bill C. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
4. We are all of African descent |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Not by any current cultural definition |
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Another Bill C. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Our current racial definitions |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I find this particular liberal approach to race annoying |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
6. Works for me. |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. Let's Sit Back And Watch The Repukes Show Their Racism Publicly |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. It is an important question |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Why are you citing articles |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Look at the two sources |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. You chose NewsMax as a source? Really? |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
28. But Why the hell bring it up?? It's an RNC smear talking point. |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. No, it's not. |
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Redhead488 (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. She has called herself |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
24. You are quite right. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. See I learned something ... |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Here's an article from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Thanks -- and I found |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
11. It would be an insult and very cynical |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:16 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. She's more African American than I am. I'm black. I'm American.. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Believe it or not I sort of agree with you, however. . . |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Screw symbolism. I'm more a "reality-based" person, versus.. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Unfortunately perception often trumps reality. . . |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. Well |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. My African-English-German-American friend. |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. I agree. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
13. Whatever |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
19. interesting response to larry king asked if nadar should get out |
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Lancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
20. THK isn't running for anything |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
26. Cowed or proud? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. An easy way to find out more would be to start googling |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I've noticed a change ... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. There's that word again.."troubling" |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
29. "any person, even a white person, born in Africa calls himself |
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mememe (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
34. this whole discussion demonstrates the foolishness of labels |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. As though race does not exist |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Addendum |
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mememe (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. I think we agree more than disagree |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
35. I have a friend who is one of your African Portuguese mixtures. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
38. In the sense that she was raised in Africa, but not sure if |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. She's been VERY forthcoming about her life in Africa. YOUR story is WRONG |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Good Gracious, calm down !! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Asserting she grew up rich with servants? |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. I am African American and |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Maybe I'm a bit of a one issue voter... |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
48. Bad idea. What can be gained? |
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americanwomanone (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
49. It Doesn't Matter. Why do we need a label? n/t |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
51. Some months ago |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
52. I say absolutely YES! |
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