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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 01:07 PM
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How powerful is the vast, right-wing sound machine ?
With their powerful hold on the majority of the propaganda mechanisms of this country, will they be able to fool enough of the people enough of the time to win the election in November or at least come very, very close? At any other time in our history, with the facts known about this Administration that we now know, it would have been a landslide of historic proportions for the opposing Party.

However, the times are different. The talking points are sent out every morning to the various right-wing shills on talk radio and they dutifully propagate the right-wing message - sometimes religiously. They are not giving up power without a battle royale, no matter how much they have screwed up this nation. With a prostrate press, it makes the job for the opposing Party that much more difficult. There is much anxiety around the living rooms of America.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 01:57 PM
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1. Annoying but over-rated
It sure is difficult to sit through "news" programs that pander to a right-leaning audience but in spite of their orchestrated onslaught their impact is limited.

For months leading up to the Iraq invasion, they all sang in harmony about WMD and "gassed his own people" and all but the poll numbers hardly moved. The WH kept changing the reason for going to war because the public wouldn't buy any of their bogus reasons. The support for the war numbers only went up after troops were under fire.

Even the administration doesn't believe that their propagandists are powerful enough to keep them in power which is why they try to shut down opposing viewpoints. Given a choice between truth and BS, Americans (most of us) will pick truth every time. And they can lie thier butts off but they can't stop the truth. People know whether gasoline prices are higher or not, whether they and their neighbors are employed or not and whether the Iraq war was started based on lies.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:00 PM
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2. I thought about 80% thought Saddam was responsible for 9/11....
at one time? How could that happen without right-wing propaganda??
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:46 PM
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4. Support was only 47% prior to invasion
In spite of all the RW media:

only 54% of Americans favor a U.S. invasion. And if the Bush administration does not seek a final Security Council vote, support for a war drops to 47%. USA Today, March 16, 2003

Where does your number come from?
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:11 PM
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3. "The poll numbers hardly moved"????
I recall Bush getting a huge spike from those yet-to-be proven lies which proves the power of the RW CON machine.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:53 PM
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6. But look at his numbers now
With the RW media doing all they can to savage Kerry.

Bush's numbers went up after 911, were high during the invasion of Afghanistan then slacked when he shifted us toward Iraq without capturing OBL. And from about the fourth week of the war on they have been on the way down with one spike for the Saddam capture.

Again, the administration is watching the numbers and they don't seem to believe that the media is powerful enough to keep them in. Therefore they are trying to bring factors into play.

And look how the last terror warning went. It was called "political" in the mainstream media. The media has damaged their own credility which makes them even less effective.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:48 PM
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5. Add voting fraud to that mix and you get the Abu Gharib treatment.
Up the ass by the U.S.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:54 PM
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7. The bigger they come
The harder they fall

One and All.


"Reality is that which, when you no longer believe in it, still exists." -- Phillip K. Dick
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