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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:17 AM
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Seymour Hersh charges published in Washington Times.
A partisan right-wing slanted publication.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040717-094145-3801r.htm

Dare I hope this means the rest of the American media will jump onboard?

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:19 AM
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1. What is going on at the Moonie Times?
They were also the only ones to pick up the Allawi killing of prisoners. Both issues not favorable to Bush.

What gives?
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:29 AM
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2. Strange, they were also the only ones to report the Labor Dept.
cooking the books on the so called new jobs back in May, then mysteriously, the June Job numbers fell way, way below expectations.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:31 AM
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3. When Shit-for-brains declared that God spoke to him, then thru him
Rev. Moon (aka God Incarnate) got pissed and decided to take the coward-and-thief down a notch.

The Dark Ages are starting to look like the good old days.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:45 AM
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4. the war of the gods?
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:52 AM
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5. subtitle:

"My invisible friend can beat up your invisible friend."


MDN

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:57 AM
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15. Bwhahahahaha
LOL. Too funny! :)
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:02 AM
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7. The FundiCon Implosion
The "holier than thou" meme tends to generate resistance among contenders for the "holier than thou" crown. Didn't "One Flew Through the Cuckoo's Nest" do a bit on this? These guys are so insane that I can only conclude that the planet has been knocked off into some alternate universe and the lizard people are indeed now running things.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:58 AM
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6. I've noticed this trend as well.
although I have no explanation.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:10 AM
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8. possibly the old world conservatives...
...are finally getting fed up with the neocon incompetence.
They still wanted to invade Iraq, but Bush has done it so poorly they're fed up with him.

perhaps?
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:41 AM
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9. maybe it's becoming too obvious....
and winning is not helping at all, as it's too easy! our society literally brags that it is devoid of anything but viciousness (see linda ronstad thrown out of las vegas casino hotel cuz she praised mike moore's film f911) foolishness and evil.....iow the 'instinct of survival' is kicking in. lol
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:54 AM
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14. I think that is what it is - they are ready to abandon the nut-n-chief
he has cheney'd things up so bad. I think you are right.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:04 AM
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10. so where is the media.... ? rape of young boys on film... the "few" that
abused prisoners has turned into something else.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:11 AM
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11. War Crimes
Rev. Moon says that he is Jesus Christ.
Maybe the Rev. doesn't approve of Dumbass and his gang of War Criminals?
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:25 AM
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12. helping acclimate it's readers for worse to come n/t
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:49 AM
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13. Kick for the morning crowd
:kick:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:11 AM
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16. And Sun Myung Moon's paper publishes the scoop
I really wonder if it's a power issue... he's not afraid of pissing off the powerbrokers in DC because he owns most of their sorry asses.

He's a nutcase, really. I wish more reichwing fundies knew about his lunacy.

Some select Sun Myung Moon Quotes:

“I have inherited the mission and work, and succeed Jesus in his work. I am fulfilling what Jesus left undone.”

“I know the of the established Christian theology. … I know the enemy, but the enemy doesn’t know me. Thus the enemy has already lost the war…”

“Today God’s word comes only through Father. If other people receive God’s word, that word is that Reverend Moon is the Messiah.”

“Until our mission with the Christians is over, we must quote the Bible and use it to explain the Divine Principle. After we receive the inheritance of the Christian church, we will be free to teach without the Bible.”

“Then in one sense, Father, Heavenly Father will say, “Reverend Moon is far better than me, the Heavenly Father.” In a short period of time, he will synthesize, He will crush the enemy and let them surrender. Our Master senses this kind of feeling of the Heavenly Father. Also, he is proud of himself and appreciates that Jesus Christ’s unfinished job of 6,000 years has been completed by him in his lifetime.”

“The time has come when the whole world must be concerned about me. From now on, American Christianity must follow me.”

“Of course, in order that the ministers feel at home, you must declare your love to Brother Jesus, but at the same time do not forget you goal, which is to bring them to the Lord of the Second Advent.”

“During one of the ‘Master Speaks’ sessions a Unification Church member asked Rev. Moon, “What will Jesus’ position be after the restoration is accomplished?” To which Rev. Moon replied, “Jesus will be the first and eldest son, because he was the only one who came to this world as the Son of God.” Seeking clarification the member then asked, “Do you mean God’s eldest son, or the Master’s?” (He was using the title ‘Master’ in reference to Rev. Moon) Moon responded, “The meaning is the same.”

“Am I foolish and insignificant or am I great? I gave all individuals in the world cause to kneel down in front of me.”

“So from this time of peak every person or every organization that goes against the Unification Church will gradually come down or drastically come down and die. Many people will die—those who do against our movement.”

“Any politician who wants to run for president will come to me in a few years.”

“In the Medieval ages, they had no separate cities-statesmanship from the religious field- because people were corrupted at the time. But when it comes to our age, we must have an automatic theocracy to rule the world. So we cannot separate the political field from the religious.”
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:42 AM
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17. Wish the title of this thread were more informative
"Reporter alleges sodomy at Abu Ghraib"

BAGHDAD, July 17 (UPI) -- American journalist Seymour Hersh has said there are videotapes of American soldiers sodomizing young Iraqi boys at Abu Ghraib prison.

more at link above...
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