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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:14 AM
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If Clark doesn't run, then who will the Clarkites vote for?
I gave this a lot of thought, and I like Howard Dean more and more. Plus, he's not that much different than Clark on the issues. What say you?
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ConservativeDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:22 AM
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1. I think it will be a split...
Between Kerry, Dean, and Edwards. Probably about in that order. Clarkites like the man because of his sterling mililitary credentials and his willingness to be forthright.

Understand that Clarkites are pretty few and far between. It probably won't make much difference either way.

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jfkennedy Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:29 AM
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2. third party
I would vote third party.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:30 AM
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3. Wow you're smart.
Good job helping Bush.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:45 AM
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11. Oh, how effective is that?
Why don't ya just get drunk? Unless you are happy with the all and powerful bush.... that sure is the way to keep him! Of course, you probably already new that.....sorry.

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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 07:20 AM
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16. I think is a good chance to be positive and convert him
not attack him. Why not be nice and explain that it is better to oust Bush than to vote for person that can not win?

Mike
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:31 AM
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4. This Clarkite....
will probably vote for Dean. I can't with any sort of conscience vote for someone who voted for this damned war; especially not the ones who are grousing about how badly the aftermath has gone.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:53 AM
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5. Dean...
...and resign myself to four more years of Bushco. I honestly don't think anyone but Clark is going to beat Bush with enough margin to overcome election fraud/dirty tricks.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:58 AM
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6. I think you might be
misunderestimating a large portion of the voting public, grasswire. I hope you're wrong.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:01 AM
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7. You think Dean is like Bush or he can't beat Bush?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:06 AM
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9. I don't think..
....any of the nine candidates can muster enough votes for a comfortable margin over Bush. I want to punish the Bushes by beating them soundly. I think Clark can do that.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:47 AM
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12. I think Clark will be in the loop somewhere
in a democratic administration......
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:01 AM
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8. The earliest I could vote is next year...say Iowa caucus, or NH.
Around then, I'd judge electability based on the interim campaigning, and polls, and decide who should advance based on probability of ousting bushwa. The Prize.

I now cannot imagine Edwards catching much more than present fire, and wish he were showing better. Maybe VP someday. Don't jiggle that senate seat.

With Kerry there is much to admire for sure, any vet gets 5 points with me; but there's that stupid war vote calculation (as I see it), there's some foot-in-mouth (?), and mainly there's running from a Senate seat, which hasn't panned out since JFK. Something about The Club, I guess, and today's party composition is not 1960's. I would have Dukakis-fear.


Dean is looking good, and may maintain it 'til decision time. Certainly lights the fire, and I think our side needs a stance that is anti-badunnecessary-war in Iraq, but pro-necessary-war, i.e., war against al queda in Afghanistan et al. Dean should attack more on how we need to do it right, repair aWol's damage. Afghanistan will soon be close to what it was when the chimp took his stolen office. We'll be contracting warlords to blow up Buddhist monuments, paying with opium futures.

Any of these three, or the other six, gets my vote and envelope licking come the general, like almost everyone here. Personally, I could probably persuade more undecided votes to Dean than the other 8.

But with Clark, I believe there is a much, much better probability of gaining votes while not losing much dem base. I'm talking House and Senate chance, with the right conditions. We've got some Repug erosion to look forward to. HehHeh. And I'm almost certain Clark will run. In a couple of months, we'll have a clearer view.



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Abaques Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:36 AM
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10. As a recent convert to Clark (if he runs)....
I would say Howard Dean is my second choice, with Kerry right behind.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:25 AM
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13. After I Finished Crying
I'll take a hard look at Kerry, Graham, Gephardt, and Edwards.
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Palacsinta Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:51 AM
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14. Kucinich, Dean, Graham
Not neccessarily in that order.
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 07:10 AM
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15. Bush. (NT)
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