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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:45 AM
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Poll question: Which of these books have you read?
Sometimes I worry that liberals aren't reading enough of the primary sources. DU is great. But it's even better to have an opinion informed by some really thorough, well-researched, super-informed first hand opinion and fact.

So, have people here read any of these books? If you've read more than one, click the one you liked the most, and post a note listing the others you read.

There's no real logical coherence to the selection of titles. If this gets lots of responses, maybe in the future, I'll do this again and group them thematically (books on Clinton, foreign policy, economics, etc).

If you have comments on the books, or want to suggest a title for me to add to Amazon.com wish list or to a future poll, please post them.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:47 AM
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1. But I've read more than one
and it won't let me vote twice!

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:49 AM
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2. You have to go to Georgia to do that n/t
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:54 AM
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5. List the ones you've read after you vote/vote for the one you
recommend/liked the most.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:52 AM
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3. some more suggestions
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 11:53 AM by HootieMcBoob
What liberal Media by Eric Alterman
The Best Democracy Money Can Buy by Greg Palast
Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky
The Emerging Democratic Majority by John B. Judis & Ruy Tiexiera
Stupid White Men by Michael Moore
The Woman Who Wouldn't Talk by Susan McDougal

I've read all of those ones.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:57 AM
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7. Also
Blinded by the Right
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:29 PM
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15. And "Wealth and Democracy"
by Kevin Phillips
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:54 AM
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4. more than one again
sidney, Hillary, Nickel ands Dimed
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:57 AM
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6. I vited for Clinton Wars.
I have Big Lies on order...but there are many more to mention...

I'm in the middle of "What Liberal Media?" by Alterman
Some others I've read...

Wealth and Democracy-Kevin Phillips
Stranger at the Gate-Mel White
The Divine Right of Capital-Marjorie Kelley
Unequal Protection-Thom Hartmann
Eternal Hostility-Frederick Clarkson
The Best Democracy Money can Buy-Greg Palast

All but Eternal Hostility I found on Amazon's search engine...I had to finagle it to get there though...so here it is...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/1567510884/002-5930136-1497645

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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:01 PM
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8. I've read
All Too Human and Living History.

I have the Clinton Wars on order (as well as Al Franken's new book, Lies)

I would also recommend:
Earth in the Balance by Al Gore
Shrub by Molly Ivins
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:04 PM
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9. I voted for The Clinton Wars
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 12:23 PM by BurtWorm
but I also read Nickel and Dimed on your list.

Other books I've read recently that I highly recommend to other DUers:

On US Politics:
The Hunting of the President, by Conason and Lyons
Blinded by the Right, by David Brock
A Coup Attempt in Washington?: A European Mirror on the 1998-1999 Constitutional Crisis, by Peter H. Merkl
The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, by Greg Palast
Fortunate Son, by Jim Hatfield (Soft Skull edition)
The Bush Dyslexicon, by Mark Crispin Miller

On US Media:
What Liberal Media? and Sound and Fury, Eric Alterman

On US History:
American Aurora, by Richard Rosenfeld
The Metaphysical Club, by Louis Menand
The Red and the Blacklist, by Norma Barzman (reading now)

On Empire:
Cicero, by Anthony Everitt

On Globalization:
No Logo, by Naomi Klein

On Iraq:
The Fire This Time, by Ramsey Clark
War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know, by Pitt and Ritter
Target: Iraq, by Solomon and Erlich
Out of the Ashes, by Cockburn and Cockburn
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:06 PM
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10. hey i've read 4 and it will only allow me to vote for 1
:shrug:
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:08 PM
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11. None...
...and the only of them I might read is Stiglitz's, because he actually knows what he's talking about rather than stones McDonalds branches and whines about how globalization benefits corporations and thus must be evil, evil, evil.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:56 PM
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16. I believe that Stiglitz does say, pretty much, that global'n is evil
And I'm impressed with your committement to Know-Nothing'ism.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:09 PM
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12. Here are some more:
The Bush Dislexicon (currently reading)
Shrub (just read; excellent and funny as hell)
Bush's Brain (on deck)
Anything by Chomsky
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:15 PM
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13. Tons hitting the shelves this and next month
Hightower Theives in High Places. I'm reading it now but it is making me insane. Just the list of the Bush outrages against the environment will make you want to start a revolution.
Turow has a non-fiction on the death penalty, Ultimate Punishment. I'm guessing he's against it. The advance copy came in today, but I haven't picked it up. I'll let you know.
New biography about Clinton, called Bill Clinton: An American Journey - Nigel Hamilton I have an advance copy I'll pass along my review as soon as I'm done. So far I'm loving it but Clinton hasn't been born yet so I don't know the political slant.
We've ordered advance copies of:
Smartest Guy in the Room - Bethany McLean and Peter Elkind (the Enron scandal)
Hegemony or Survial - Noam Chomsky
The Great Unraveling - Paul Krugman

I review books like this for our local bookstore, great deal for me as they get me (or try at least) advance copies of books for free!

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:22 PM
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14. You lucky duck!
As opposed to lucky ducky.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:59 PM
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17. Turow is against DP. He started off for it, but his experience
on that IL commission convinced him it was wrong. He had a pretty interesting take on it too, but I can't remember what it was exactly...something about how the less resources you have, the more likely you'll get the DP, and there's no way to remedy that.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:07 PM
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18. blowback by chalmers johnson
As head of the japaese-american cultural society, and professor emeritus from UC... he's well qualified to cut in to american policy.

I like some of the books people have listed, but i wish that people would write about the book a little bit, so i can understand "why" they thought that book such a great "original source."

By that standard, alex de toquiville's book on ameirca is still highly relevant.

That aside, good primary source work might include the writings of Adam Smith, John Steward Mill, Rousseau, Emerson and Thoreau. If one is to spend the reading time, best to focus on understanding the framers of the constitution and its greats... as all that enlightenment in american"ism" is 2 centuries ago, best to read there when looking for "primary" sources.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:09 PM
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19. TOOBIN, BLUMENTHAL, BROCK
& back when, Dyslexicon and Fortunate Son, & CONASON's new one is on the way via the DU Amazon portal. Will need something re: blood pressure as a result.
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