Folks, we have a new intelligence official calling Bush a liar

White House 'lied about Saddam threat'

Julian Borger in Washington
Thursday July 10, 2003
The Guardian

A former US intelligence official who served under the Bush administration in the build-up to the Iraq war accused the White House yesterday of lying about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
The claims came as the Bush administration was fighting to shore up its credibility among a series of anonymous government leaks over its distortion of US intelligence to manufacture a case against Saddam.

This was the first time an administration official has put his name to specific claims. The whistleblower, Gregory Thielmann, served as a director in the state department's bureau of intelligence until his retirement in September, and had access to the classified reports which formed the basis for the US case against Saddam, spelled out by President Bush and his aides.

Mr Thielmannn said yesterday: "I believe the Bush administration did not provide an accurate picture to the American people of the military threat posed by Iraq."

He conceded that part of the problem lay with US intelligence, but added: "Most of it lies with the way senior officials misused the information they were provided."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,995188,00.html

and he makes a good witness. :-)

Very presentable, calm and pulls no punches.

not much responce

may have been a dupe

link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=6176&mesg_id=6176&page=

I was going to respond that I saw him briefly in an interview, and he looked well-spoken.

Posts move so fast here I can't keep up.

Hey dude thanks for PM, today is a better day!

But what will really rock my world is if someone from the CIA comes out and says, "I told Bush to his face the Niger story was bullshit." The CapitolHillBlue story was believable precisely because there HAS to be someone like that out there.

I would assume that person is currently considering his options, and they are many. (I say "his" because they're all white boys at that level.)

"Gregory Thielmann, served as a director in the state department's bureau of intelligence until his retirement in September, and had access to the classified reports which formed the basis for the US case against Saddam."

The classified reports formed the basis for Bush's case against Saddam. How could he form that basis without having read the reports? :D

I can only send in one a month, but I can send it to a different paper
every day! I just sent one about Bush screwing the Vet's :)

We Used To Impeach Liars
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Tuesday 03 June 2003

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/060303A.shtml

(snip)

The process of proving the presence of Iraqi WMDs has been tortured, to say the least. Bush at one point described recent Iraqi efforts to purchase "significant quantities of uranium from Africa." Greg Thielmann, recently resigned from the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, was appalled by these claims. "When I saw that, I was really blown away," said Thielmann. His Bureau of Intelligence and Research had absolutely debunked this claim. The documents used to support the accusation were crude forgeries - the name on the letterhead of the main evidentiary document was that of a Nigerian minister who had been out of office for ten years. When he saw that Bush was using the fraudulent documentation to back up his claims, he thought to himself, "Not that stupid piece of garbage," according to Newsweek.

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Thanks Will.