The "Prejudice" of Democrats

Anybody want to take a crack at this one?

Down in the gun dungeon, some of us are being excoriated as being bigots as virulent as noted racist Ted Nugent because we are less than sympathetic to a moron who built a home-made cannon to murder live frogs by using them as ammo....only to blind himself by peering down the barrel as the cannon went off and catching a luckless amphibian in the face.

Says one of his ardent defenders: "I think a REAL Democrat would refrain from passing judgment on others they don’t even know."

Whaddaya think?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=5138&mesg_id=5138&page=

Because one side never makes any sense!

Bigotry may come and go, but spotting a moran (sic) is timeless, and this assclown sounds like one of the first water. Real Boudelang material, there.

does sound like the sort of thing Bob could arrange, so stop saying that! (snicker)

Popping by for a visit on his way to Burning Man or something?

Funniest part of the news story.....

"Berry had an American dream too.
"I wanted to finish up my college and go to the air force and be a pilot," he says. "

Hell...even with the "toad-related tragedy", this goof could be Secretary of the Ari Force with a Republican administration....

a Liberal never find natural selection funny....

O8)

That bigotry is discrimination against someone for something that's part of their identity -- race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, etc. You can make a case that being a moron qualifies you for sympathy as mentally incompetent. More likely this kid is someone who tortures animals. Not exactly a protected class by US law.

You might also ask if his parents intend to sue someone. The local frogs, maybe.

:dunce:

I find the killing of helpless animals for sport just disgraceful...

Stupidity is part of someone's identity too.

that we should feel sorry for this assclown because he is sooooo
f**king stupid!!!

do you feel prejudiced against EVERYBODY who's shot themselves in the face with an amphibian using a home-made cannon? (snicker)

did this idiot breed with his mother, sister, or other close relative to make more idiots like this???

have shot themselves in the face with an amphibian using a home-made cannon. A REAL Democrat would know this.

Could happen to anyone, eh?

Support the 1st amendment, regardless of the content or speaker. However, as shown by some
anti-gun activists; freedom of speech is flexible or unworthy of defending if they don't like what's
being said.

can not be defended if we make fun of those brave men who shoot themselves in the face with an amphibian using a home-made cannon.

You just watch! First they'll take our amphibians (and home-made cannons) and then they'll close the libraries early. Going after them frogs is the first step down a very slippery slope.

All that's keeping us from concentration camps is a few tadpoles...

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And I did nothing because my feet weren't webbed....

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Then why was the article posted in J/PS to begin with?
If it was to point out the stupidity of the action, then it belonged in The Lounge or GD.
It had no relevance to the RKBA issue. I conceded that it might have some relevance to public safety,
but that wasn't why it was posted. You took the ball and ran here with it... Nugent, pantload,
white trash and all.

Looks like your team fumbled... again.

It was posted in the gun dungeon because it demonstrated the mindset of those who like to play with guns..

"You took the ball and ran here with it... Nugent, pantload,
white trash and all."
And now somebody wants to pout about it.

How many of the "enthusiasts" there claimed to have built their OWN cannon like this imbecile did?

Myself included. What relevancy does it have to the RKBA issue?
I could tell you about all sorts of stupid and dangerous things
I've done as a kid, and even a few as an adult. By your convoluted logic and sweeping statements, that makes me and probably a large number of other posters here "white trash" "yokels" or whatever it was you so eloquently observed about a simple case of adolescent stupidity.


FWIW, I've never shot an amphibian (or any other animal) from
a "spud gun"... I've never even *shot at* an animal nor do I have any desire to. I've never shot myself (or anyone else), in the face, arm, leg, chest or whatever appendage you can conjure up.

So, just a bit of safety advice from an experienced "gun loon": next time, keep the spud gun pointed away from your foot. :D

Who the heck knows...

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but you never know....

How could anyone hear that story and not laugh?

But somehow laughing at this bozo demonstrates prejudice against the RKBA crowd and shows what a bigot I am...

does not demonstrate the predudice.
Stereotyping and prejudicial comments, that so many of us adamantly deplore, when made by those who claim to deplore them does not make anyone a bigot, just a hypocrite.

Just about everyone agrees ("RKBA enthusiasts" or not) that this kid did a VERY stupid (and disgusting - using a frog) thing.
The problem seems to be that some people are saying this is a perfect example of a a typical gun owner. In a round about way (or maybe not so round about), it sounds like you're saying anyone that owns a gun is stupid enough to do what this kid did. There are responsible gun owners out there - and there are some that aren't so responsible.
Just my 2 cents,
OP

Quote from other thread:
"Actually what it shows is that in addition to being dumb enough to shoot themselves in the face with a frog, RKBA "enthusiasts" are humorless prats"

It is not even a perfect example of a member of the "RKBA" crowd, but people like this are over represented in the "RKBA" crowd.

did you notice the number of RKBA enthusiasts who rushed to assure us that they themselves had similar cannons?

But I also noticed that none of them admitted to shooting themselves in the face with a frog. Not every RKBA enthusiast or spud gun owner is like this moron. Some people are wreckless in their car (but not everyone) - some people are wreckless with guns/spud guns (but not everyone).
I put these "cannons" (the PVC pipe kind) in the same category as fireworks. Personally, I think fireworks are more dangerous because they're less predictable. I made a spud gun when I was a younger, too. We shot potatoes out over a lake. They were so low velocity you had to hold it at a 45 degree angle to get any distance on it (mine rarely went over 150 feet). I never put anything except potatoes in it and agree sticking any living creature in it is twisted and cruel.
That being said, I have no sympathy for him either.
OP

"none of them admitted to shooting themselves in the face with a frog."

This kid injured himself in an accident. Was he doing something stupid? Yes! Was he doing something wrong? Possibly. But be a Mensch! Just because someone was doing something stupid or wrong doesn't mean that they deserve no sympathy whatsoever. It is unfortunate that this happened. And the quote is right. Other than the incident surrounding his blinding you know nothing about this kid, but yet you feel entitled to pronounce him "violent, dishonest and simple-minded white trash".

You mean you think upstanding young folks torture small animals for sport?

If some kid got hit by a car while chasing a ball into traffic would you dismiss the tragedy with "Stupid ball-chasing kid got what she deserved" ?

Edit: kids-->kid's

Than killing innocent animals. Are you aware that children who take pleasure from torturing small animals often graduate to human beings?

No, I have no sympathy for this kid except that I believe he has major mental problems and needs some physchiatric help. In point of fact, maybe his being blinded saved somebody's life.

is very different than killing animals for fun.

of the mind as shooting frogs out of a spud gun.

The frogs didn't choose to get blown apart....this ugly nutcase chose to kill them and also chose to look down the barrel...

it will make you strong! :eyes:

and trying to pretend having a conscience is bigotry...

Should we try to have you canonized as the patron saint of Schadenfreude?

while trying to mutilate helpless creatures...

Please explain. How does your delight in his suffering make you good?

do you think torturing frogs should be ENCOURAGED?

I find it humorous that this gaboon's own ugly nature was turned against him by a caprice of fate. Excuse the fuck out of me if I personally don't kill animals for fun.

is just plain wrong. And just about as sick as firing frogs out of a spudgun, if not more so.

Now cry to somebody else about this idiot shooting himself in the face with a frog. I'm done with you and your crocodile tears.

I'd expect this kind of misanthropy at free republic, but not here

I'm quite happy to laugh and move on...

You're the one who seems determined to try to pretend this is some sort of overarching tragedy instead of another case of an armed moron being a danger to himself and others...

But yet you continue to try to justify your glee about the boy's terrible disfigurement. I think you are being very defensive for someone who wants to "move on". You are the one who brought this up, thinking that GD would support you in your enjoyment of this kid's misfortune. Since you brought it up, I told you that your enjoyment of this kid's misfortune is as sick as the boy's torturing animals. If you don't like the answer, don't ask. Further, you have not answered my question about why it is OK for you to delight in the blinding of a child. You complain about cruelty to animals on one hand, while attempting to dehumanize the kid on the other hand. Your actions are not indicative of a good Democrat or a good human being.

pulling out the parking brake on a car atop a hill, then playing ball in the street below

One, he WAS violent. C'mon! Shooting amphibians out of cannons? That's not violent?? Two, he WAS simple-minded (i.e., STUPID). I mean, he shot himself in the face with the frickin' amphibian, after all!! As for being dishonest, white and/or trash, well maybe we don't know that for sure. The other two are safe bets.

Bake

And it is no excuse for making light of their misfortune.

I knew more than just I failed to see the logic or validity in the comments being given.

If any of my friends did something stupid like that I'd make fun of them to no end - I laughed at my friend when he rolled his jeep and flew out the top - (once I knew he wasn't dead). That's just the way some of us are - we can laugh when someone does something stupid and nothing too tragic comes of it. Some jackass who blinds himself by firing a frog into his eyes is nowhere near the top of the list of people around the world who deserve my sympathy. Would it have been nice to hear that he's expecting a full recovery? Yes. Am I going to loose any sleep over the fact that he isn't? No.

"I do it to so it must not be wrong" is a poor justification.

Taking pleasure in someone's maiming is as sick as taking pleasure in shooting frogs out of a spud gun.

(Chicago Daily News and then the Chicago Tribune) used to do a yearly column about what he called something like "The Gun Idiot of the Year". In it, he cited the person who did the stupidest thing possible with a gun.

My favorite was the guy who thought he saw something moving at the foot of his bed in the middle of the night and shot it. It was his dick -- he had an erection. LOL.

On edit: OUCH!

announced a couple yearrs ago he would stop running most items about gun safety instructors shooting themselves and others because they were too common to be called "weird."

with a salamander one time, but it was only a flesh wound. Those frog cannons have hair triggers, ya know.

who shoot frogs out of a "potato gun."

As far as people who are blinded when the potato gun loaded with amphibian ammo goes off as they peering down the barrel of the weapon, well, instant karma is gonna get you, you dumb fuck.

The issue isn't guns, but intelligence--or lack thereof, in this case. I would be just as amused by a tree-hugging leftie who lost an arm trying to feed an abandoned shark.

I seem to recall hearing about Bush* putting firecrackers under frogs when he was young so I just assume this person was emulating his idol. We should run him for governor of California.

Blindness is an asset there....

Sorta like the man hitting the dog with the gun and the gun going off and killing the man....

But it would be prejudiced to just dismiss EVERYONE who blinded themselves by shooting a frog into their own faces as stupid....

But it might be to assume that EVERYONE that owns a spud gun has or will shoot a frog out of it (into their face, no less).
OP

My husband enjoys firecrackers, and like a lot of boys his age (33) occasionally plays what if, as in what if I put it inside an empty camera film roll? This of course drives me nuts, because it's dangerous. If I were to come into the Lounge and tell you that my husband had 3rd degree burns on the right side of his face from an exploding plastic container, would I receive sympathy...or scorn.


Yes, the boy was stupid, just as my own husband can be stupid, as can the majority of the population. But deserve blindness? I can't fall that far.

he tied it to a dog's tail...and the dog ran to him?

What if he told a small child to hold it after he lit it...and the child tossed it to him?

but I will not call him names, nor ponder his genetic pool. My point was and still is. People do stupid things. I thought we were talking about frogs here. The things that lots of people (self included) like to eat the rear appendages of. Again, I emphasize, no it's not right, but neither is it right for my husband to light a firecracker in a film roll. Should I divorce him?

if you have to ask strangers on an internet board, perhaps you have to take a long hard look at your marriage...

"People do stupid things. I thought we were talking about frogs here."
And I thought we were talking about some vicious idiot who was trying to kill frogs for the fun of it, when his own ugly and stupid nature backfired on him.

Thanks.

because you don't take Black candidates seriously.

Prove it....

People who as children tortured animals and People who end up being socio or psychopathic killers as adults?

Yes, there is...

I wish the people with sympathy for people who torture and kill helpless creatures simply for fun, and who cause their own harm to themselves, would redirect it (and their energies) toward people and animals who are suffering through no fault of their own. There is no shortage of such unfortunate beings in the world.

helpless animals for fun. I'm not kidding. My father did it. My brother copied him. And I copied them both, hoping I could fit in. I did have a conscience, however, and always felt guilty for doing the things my family thought were "normal."

Guess what? My family are all hopelessly rabid right-wing Republicans. And now I have zero respect for them as human beings. When my father was dying of cancer, I felt sorry for him, but after he died the only emotion I could conjure was relief.

I ask you this: had I somehow mangled myself while doing what I was taught, would you have had no sympathy for me? Is it possible this kid was only doing what he had been taught and might have changed at some point?

I changed. I will not own a gun. I do not shoot helpless animals for "fun." And it didn't take getting blinded for me to realize that torturing helpless animals is wrong. Unfortunately, my brother is probably just as bloodthirsty as he was when we were children, as is his friend, who is a California state senator. If you think this kid was being cruel to animals, you would shudder in disgust if you knew what this Republican senator does.

...when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.


wp

And when frogs are outlawed, only outlaws will have frogs.