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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 01:44 AM
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DEMOCRAT PARTY???
Why is the Democratic Party now being referred to as the Democrat Party by Republicans and the media. I've even seen some posts here on DU that use this expression. When/Why did this start? Where does it come from? I just recently started noticing it and I find it very irritating since I'm almost sure the RW haters use mainly just to BE irritating and get under our skin...
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 01:47 AM
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1. McCarthy is often credited with starting it
I've read that, and tried to find links via Google, but wasn't able to.

I remember my mom calling it the Democrat Party in the early 60s, so it's been around for at least that wrong

always been a tool of the pugs to demean the dems, making the supposed differentiation between democrats and being DEMOCRATIC, as if dems are anything BUT democratIC, like, say, comsymps

that sort of thing
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MorseMoose Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:04 AM
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20. Democrat party...grrrrrrr....
I think it's a recent thing (from the Gingrich era). And it pisses me off every time I hear it. It's such an obvious Orwellian way for GOP types not to say equate democracy with Democrats. I'm sure they had a memo and meetings about it back in the early 90's.

Morse
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 01:51 AM
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2. ignorance
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 01:52 AM by Kennethken
when ever I hear some one use the term "Democrat party" I point out to them that they can not possibly have any intelligent opinions regarding politics because in a nation with only two major parties, they can not correctly name more than one.

Just keep throwing that back at them no matter what they try to say, or how they try to justify anything else. It's the only way to put a stop to that childish crap.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 01:54 AM
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3. They have never learned any of the rules of basic grammar.
I am a Democrat. That is a proper noun.

I am a member of the Democratic Party. Democratic is an adjective there, technically.

When they call us the Democrat party, they are not demeaning us, but showing their own ignorance.

Call them the gops, as someone here suggested. That is gop with a small 'g'. It rhymes with slop, and flop. Call them gops, gopers, gop party, etc.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:40 AM
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13. Goopers.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:43 AM
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26. Good idea.
Less obvious than repukes, etc, but gets a point across.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 01:58 AM
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4. It was AuH20 - in 1964
Can't say if it was Joe McCarthy, since that was before my time (born 1953).

I know for sure -- because I remember directly -- that Barry Goldwater started saying "Democrat Party" in the 1964 presidential election. It is (and always has been, in my book) part of the Republican propaganda -- express contempt for your enemy, as a strategy to deprive him/her of the ability to define him/herself.

In my book, it's about on a level with "Achtung Juden!" ("Attention, Jews" in German) and "Diesen Untermenschen" ("these sub-humans"), both standard Nazi Party propaganda usages from 1934 on.

I usually confront people when they say it in my presence. "You mean 'Democratic Party,' right?" They usually squirm. One woman told me once, "Well, Democrat Party is its official name, you know."

Yeah, I know. I know more about you, chienne, than I want to know.

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TeacherCreature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:23 AM
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21. you tell them that your voter registration says "Democratic Party"
and the republicans don't get to rename it.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:01 AM
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5. That $%&^ Nader uses it too
It's a republican thing. I don't think democrats actually use the term.

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ChocolateSaltyBalls Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:17 AM
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8. I too thought that until I heard Randi Rhodes use the term.......
it seems to be getting around.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:43 AM
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16. Ah I didn't know
democrats were using it too. I thought it was mostly freepers.

That said, I don't hate Nader and freepers any less.
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TeacherCreature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:34 AM
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23. No democrats are not using it too
don't fall for that.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:06 AM
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6. Because they know "democratic" is pretty good word, and they don't
want people to think of it when they think of the Democratic Party.

Also, there's a great Winston Churchil quote about mispronouncing your political adverseries' names. I wish I could remember it.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:13 AM
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7. What are these Republicans of which you speak?
I thought they had officially changed their name to the Federal Fundamentalist Fascism Party.
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:19 AM
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9. No that's just their pet name for each other
The word " republican" is a shortening of their party's full name:

RE-distribute PUBLIC funds to our rich friends because we CAN.

That got to be quite a mouthful, so they shortened it for brevity in conversation.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:30 AM
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10. :-)
And we are still Democrats for the Democratic Party.

Just don't call me, "Late for dinner."
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:31 AM
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11. Let's play by their rules:
We'll start calling them 'The Party of the Republic'. Communism connotation, anyone?
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:40 AM
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12. Just more GOP NewSpeak

Just the way

George
Orwell
Predicted


MDN

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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:42 AM
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14. I guess we can call them the Republic party now! n/t
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:45 AM
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15. I heard bush say it the other day
Accompanied by a sneer, of course.

I thought, "You little scumbag. Giving the finger to a protestor the other day and now this--what a petty little creep you are."


Cher

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:47 AM
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17. The British press is also using it, such as BBC in link provided
Democrat convention set to open

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3925421.stm

I don't particularly care for the name Democrat in the way it is being used. It reminds me of that GOP commercial where the "RAT" in Democrat were in red.

It is called Democratic Party, not Democrat Party!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:18 AM
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18. Why the British use it
because the Liberal Democrats in Britain use 'Liberal Democrat' as an adjective; see, for instance, their website http://www.libdems.org.uk/ - titled "The official Liberal Democrat website", and talking about "Liberal Democrat policy papers".
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 06:00 AM
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19. Well, at least Charles Kennedy is a real liberal
Thanks for that piece of interesting information.
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TeacherCreature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:33 AM
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22. Here is the URL for their feedback form
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:35 AM
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24. It doesn't matter to me.
Of all the things that piss me off about Republicans, this one falls somewhere between So? and Who gives a shit?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:38 AM
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25. It is CODE for "I'm a rightwing jerk, too!"
It makes me crazy, too. It's a way for them to tell each other they're on the same side, and grew came up as a result of that "rat" ad from 2000, seems to me. (Sometimes you can even hear them emphasize "rat." Blatant rightwing jerks will capitalize it on message boards.)

Are they "Republics?"
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:45 AM
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27. Good guestion, ask
www.lipolitics.com/nassau-democrat

"Nassau County Democrat Party"

http://graysonco.texoma.net/Democrat/

"Grayson County Democrat Party"

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/United%20States%20Democrat%20Party

"United States Democrat Party"


I could think of a lot of things to rant about, but as my 5th grade teacher Ms. Snugbottom told me, "Young man, never mix-up proper names, use the right name, always" as she waps my knuckles with a ruler. It would seem though, that many do this.

The above are noticebly not repub and I also notice, I doubt they do it to just "get under your skin". You just ain't that important.

:eyes:
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:54 AM
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28. I am glad you asked this question.
I, too, have been wondering why they say 'Democrat Party'. I figured it was just another petty and obnoxious way for them to disrespect us and our values.

But it seems like needlessly provoking the electorate would be a bad idea at this point in the game, considering how close the polls are.

No worries, the Democrat Party will teach gops a big lesson on Nov 2.
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