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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:14 PM
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Did Clinton say...
Strength and wisdom are not opposing values

OR

Strength and wisdom are not conflicting values




Reason I ask is because I'm making t-shirts and stuff here: http://www.cafepress.com/ksbslane3 and I have opposing because I was sure that's what I heard, but the transcript says conflicting...

Someone with TIVO...tell me if I need to change the text.

Thanks
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:15 PM
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1. Opposing. n/t
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:18 PM
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2. That's what I thought
Thanks very much.

Here's what I made. I put it on all kinds of clothing and stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/ksbslane3



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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:22 PM
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3. not exclusive of each other
is what I thought I heard.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:26 PM
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4. He said: conflicting values
Their opponents will tell you to be afraid of John Kerry and John Edwards, because they won’t stand up to the terrorists—don’t you believe it. Strength and wisdom are not conflicting values—they go hand in hand. John Kerry has both. His first priority will be keeping America safe. Remember the scripture: Be Not Afraid.


For the entire transcript: http://www.dems2004.org/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=luI2LaPYG&b=126429&content_id={B193FE21-EA02-4A2C-9094-BABB5D2AA869}¬oc=1

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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:27 PM
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5. he said opposing values.
I had to think on it to see his point.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:29 PM
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7. I know that's what the transcript says, but
I'm pretty certain he said opposing. Looks like everyone else heard the same thing. Thanks a bunch to the DUer who immediately wrote it down.
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AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:27 PM
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6. I wrote it down when he said it
"Strength and wisdom are not opposing values."
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:30 PM
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8. He said opposing...
The script may have said conflicting, but he said opposing. He went off-script a few times along the way. The script just said "they want a divided America" and he added in "but we don't" on his own. In addition, they showed the teleprompter on the big screen at one point in the speech and he wasn't reading it verbatim. He re-phrased some things on the fly.
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Literate Tar Heel Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:32 PM
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9. actually I think he changed that completely
to "They need a divided America. We don't." or words very close to that
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:33 PM
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10. You got it. "Strength and wisdom are not opposing values."
Exactly.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:39 PM
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11. Just heard it on the cspan video
Strength and wisdom are not opposing values

about 22 minutes in - http://www.cpan.com
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