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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:09 PM
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Howard Fineman to Scarborough-- "I'll give you a reality check"
The Hardballs panel is eating itself alive!
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:10 PM
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1. The ONLY thing Scarborough can complain about is the speech was..
it was too short?!?!?

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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:12 PM
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2. Yeah he's making a deal about Kerry
Racing through his applause lines. The crowd booed Scarborough, then he said "You can boo if you want." then Mathews scolded Scarborough "Ease it up, Joe. Don't taunt the crowd."

I love it.
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:15 PM
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3. EVERY speech all week was rushed
That's the demands of television. Wonder if they'll put the same demands on the Pubs?
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:31 AM
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9. Shrub will be allowed to run long, if he can...
...cause it is a "Presidential" address...
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:44 AM
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13. Half of a Bush speech consists of applause.
His speechwriters load his speeches with applause lines, and of course, Bush pauses for all of them.

I got the feeling that Kerry's "rushing" sent a good message - that he had a lot to say and had to say it as soon as possible.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:30 AM
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8. Isn't that pathetic? That was all poor unfortunate Joe Scarborough could
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 12:30 AM by calimary
come up with for a snipe against Kerry. That's the BEST he could do. He was loathe to say anything good about the guy. So THIS was the best he could do. Say goodnight, Joe. And yes, they booed him. You could hear it, even above the din. It was a great speech, Joe. Deal with it. Oh yeah, and what Teresa said! You can go shove it, too.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:18 PM
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4. for anything else chris has done, he really spoke well of kerrys speech
his first words were wonderful, saying that in his speech, kerry was directly answering the image of * after sept 11th and him standing on the rubble
and chris thought kerry did...

i have to email chris and thank him for the way he spoke up for kerry and framed kerrys awesome speech
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:28 AM
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6. The Whores See That Kerry Will Be President- They Don't Want To Be Left Be
left behind with the Fauxbots when we reclaim the White House.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:20 PM
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5. I got twenty bucks
That's right.

I GOT TWENTY BUCKS THAT SAYS

On MSNBC, someones head explodes before Ron and Joe show up at eleven.

It's a LOCK!
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:29 AM
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7. litterally explodes?
on live tv?

I'll take that bet
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:31 AM
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10. Ah, yes, Howard Fineman
Who apparently knows black voters better than black voters do...let's face it, Howard is a man of the streets. He's down with tha brothas, dog.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:35 AM
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11. By the way, did anyone notice our DEAR friend Frank Luntz?
Notice the difference in his demeanor between last night and tonight? He had that "focus group" of allegedly undecided voters. Last night while hearing their reactions to Edwards' speech he was actually a tiny bit cocky, a little smug because the reaction was lukewarm at best (well, it WAS an underwhelming speech). But tonight! Wow, what a difference. Luntz didn't crack a smile for the whole segment. He was rather sober. He looked like he'd just seen the future and realized he didn't see georgie-poo in it. Last night, he looked like he wasn't a bit worried. Tonight, he looked like he WAS.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:53 AM
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14. Luntz looked shell-shocked...by the way, is he wearing one of
Elton John's fake hairpieces?? His hair looked two toned......mostly red on top!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:40 AM
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12. What Scarborough is failing to consider
is as soon as the speech was done, it's all sound bite snippets and the pace won't make any difference. I think Kerry's team knew this and were very smart about it. So, delivery in it's entirety won't matter and Scarborough stated himself that the speech text was "exceptional."

I only watched part of the panel's discussion but I saw Finemann getting irritated at Scarborough. It was great!! I also saw him looking at Matthews as if to say, "a little help here, Chris. He's hogging again and I have something to say!" Sometimes, I wish Howard would go ahead and talk over Joe till he shuts his yap!

It was an excellent speech and I thought Kerry delivered!! :clap: But, he wasn't trying to sell me.
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